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Converting a Bandsaw from Wood to Metal!

AdamHup234

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I dont do alot of fabrication at home but enough that I wanted something a little bit easier and not as loud as a cutoff wheel or grinder. I always wanted a metal cutting bandsaw but they are expensive except the little HF ones. I also wanted to be able to cut other things as well like wood or foam or whatever. So I kept my eye out and got an old Rockwell vertical bandsaw locally for 50 bucks!
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It was in good shape and worked, its not the oldest style with a beefier frame but it will do what I need.
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Now I heard that you could use a treadmill motor and variable speed drive that comes on them to convert a wood bandsaw to go slow enough for metal. I found a 1.5HP 90VDC motor , transformer and variable speed controller from a treadmill on Epay for 50 bucks! You could probably troll garage sales and get one for next to nothing.
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The old 1/3hp AC motor just mounts on a pivoting plate under the saw. I took it off and the DC motor bolted right in. It even had the right size pulley on it.
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You can see a little set screw on the pulley. You can adjust the pulley about 2 inches on the shaft to line up with your saws pully where you need it.

Now this controller was small enough to mount in a regular handy box from a hardware store. I got a blank cover for it to mount the speed control (potentiometer) in. The card has L1 and L2 pins on it. this is where you hook up the 120VAC. I got an 8 foot pigtail from the same hardware store and a 1/2inch compression fitting for the handy box to put the cord in. Now there are 2 more pins on the card that say A1 and A2, this is where the DC motor hooks into. But you have to have 1 of the DC motor wires go through the transformer before it plugs into the card. I think it can be either one because I tried it both ways and it worked. Now the 2 wires can go to A1 and A2. To make the motor go CW or CCW just switch the A1 and A2 wires. I ran the 8 foot pigtail and the 2 DC motor wires through the 1/2 inch comprssion fitting and into the handy box. I grounded the pigtail ground wire to one of the screws that I used to mount the box to the saw leg.
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The transformer I mounted on the saw leg across from the handy box. Now the DC motor also has a ground wire and I ground that wire to one of the screws I used to mount the transformer.
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Here is the handy box mounted with the speed control mounted on the cover. The DC motor has what I think is a small balancer and fan on this end. I think I will take off the fan but leave the balancer. I will make a guard for this end of the motor.
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Here is the finished saw! (except for the guard) It doesn't look much different than it did.
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When you plug it in the motor doesn't even move till you turn the dial a little bit. You can go from 0 to 4800 RPM!! A DC motor has the about the same torque at any RPM so you can slow down to do metal (with a metal blade). I put on a blade that had about 14 teeth per inch and it went right through this 1/8 x 1 1/2 steel bar.
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If I pushed real hard I could bog down the motor but I just let the blade do the job and it went through real nice. If I was converting a full size wood saw I would probably use a bigger HP DC motor. Any way good luck on your project!
 
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wilbilt

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I have a treadmill that has been begging to be gutted for a few years. Earlier today, I looked at it and decided to tear it apart tomorrow.

The motor and controller are destined to power my old Craftsman 109 metal lathe. Thanks for the encouragement!
 
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Steevo

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Thanks for posting this. I have a band saw project I have been studying for a while, doing the same thing, but was struggling with how to gear an AC motor to get the speeds I wanted.

This is a better idea!

That motor speed controller looks almost exactly like the ones that Burden Surplus sells:
https://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=11-2269&catname=electric

Only a motor and speed controller from them costs more than a cheap treadmill . . .
 

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Can one use an A/C motor (1/2 hp. 1725 rpm ) with a speed control? What gauge metal can one expect to cut? thanks, [email protected]

A 120v AC motor can't be speed-controlled without loosing torque as well as speed.
A 3-phase motor can be speed-controlled with less loss of power, but then you need 240v and a phase converter, and the speed controller, etc.
 
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