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Trying to create my place from an old mistreated garage

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Me and my girlfriend started looking for a house a couple of years ago. When we found this we knew it was the one. A restored old "torp" (swedish cottage) on the country but still close to most things.
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This week the deal became finalised and we now have access.

The house is built in 1909, and in the 60:s it was owned by a car enthusiast. According to what we are told, he built the garage on the property. It is a simple building, with a concrete slab and brick and wood walls. The latest owner haven't used the garage much, he mostly only had it for storage. It is in quite a sad state, but not beyond repair I think.

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The exterior is covered with Eternit, a asbestos based paneling that was popular at the time for its durability. So that is one of the projects, to remove (all while being safe, of course) it and have a wood panel instead. And repaint it at the same time, gray or red probably.

I have some hope that the is a nice wood panel underneath the plates.
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The fact that there is a wood panel under might indicate that parts of the building is older, I'm not sure yet.

Those trees are growing way to near the house also, and will be cut down.

A quick sketch of the base floor plan:
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There is a side door, and a large set of doors for getting cars in and out.

Sorry for the quality of the pictures, taken with my phone without any interior lighting.

On the inside there is only more to do.. In though the door it looks like this:
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The door in to the garage area.
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In the smaller room to the left some sort of paneling work has begun.
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Into the large area there is a support pillar. And we can see the "art" near the big doors.
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The garage "art". It is so hilariously bad I just had to include it. I censored it a bit to protect your sanity though. You don't want to see **** that messed up :)
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Standing by the big doors and into the garage, we see the benches and the oil change pit.
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The small door in and the shelves.
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The big doors are locked by a big steel tube, and are a good clue that this was never a parking garage, but a restoration garage with little movement of cars.
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The bench.
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The oil change pit.
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So, my first things to take action on (aside from the exterior):

Fixing the wiring. The electrics are a mix of original, newly added and lots of exposed, unknown and damaged wires.

What to do with the pit. Thinking about filling it in or just building a new cover. I have not inspected the bottom yet, there is a thin layer of water in it.

Giving everything a fresh layer of white paint. To brighten up the place and to cover the art.

Finishing the paneling in the small rooms.

Adding iron bars inside the windows and improving the door lock.

Looking at the included machines, if it is anything worth keeping or if just to toss it.

Fixing the upper floor as storage area.

And there is tons more needed to do, and even more ideas of what to do.
 
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Wow, quite a project! This will be interesting!

My suggestion for the pit would be to somehow seal the walls and floor, then build a cover over the top. Be really careful with pits. Fuel fumes love to collect in them.
 

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The exterior is covered with Eternit, a asbestos based paneling that was popular at the time for its durability. So that is one of the projects, to remove (all while being safe, of course) it and have a wood panel instead. And repaint it at the same time, gray or red probably.
Asbestos "shingles" were common in the US during the 50s and 60s for the same reason. Most house with them, including mine, had 1" of foam board insulation and vinyl siding placed over the top.

Check with your local building codes. Removal and disposal could be very expensive. (Or you it yourself and place them in double plastic bags. I won't tell !)

If they covered the original wood siding, it was probably in bad shape, so expect to have to do a fair amount of repair.

Starting on the electric is a good place. You can't work without some decent lighting !

There is quite a bit of new lumber in some of the pictures and it is not all shelving. Is it a temporary structure to hold up a building that is falling down ?

How is the foundation ? Is it sinking ?


Assuming you have the time, will and money, it could be a great place.

Keep the pit !
 
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Wow, quite a project! This will be interesting!

My suggestion for the pit would be to somehow seal the walls and floor, then build a cover over the top. Be really careful with pits. Fuel fumes love to collect in them.

Yes, it will be much work. I have no stress though, I will keep the cars and tools in my current (rented) garage until this is done.

A new cover is required, I want to have the floor as flat as possible. I'm thinking drying it out and covering it with tar paint might keep it try. Or just to fill it, since it wont be used much anyway probably.

Nice place you got there with lots and lots of potential.
I could picture myself living there :)
I hope you will be very happy there, and thanks for sharing.
Please keep us updated with lots of pictures

Very cool property and garage. Subscribed.

Thanks! I will try to update when something happens. There is a lot of other stuff to do now though...

Asbestos "shingles" were common in the US during the 50s and 60s for the same reason. Most house with them, including mine, had 1" of foam board insulation and vinyl siding placed over the top.

Check with your local building codes. Removal and disposal could be very expensive. (Or you it yourself and place them in double plastic bags. I won't tell !)

If they covered the original wood siding, it was probably in bad shape, so expect to have to do a fair amount of repair.

Starting on the electric is a good place. You can't work without some decent lighting !

There is quite a bit of new lumber in some of the pictures and it is not all shelving. Is it a temporary structure to hold up a building that is falling down ?

How is the foundation ? Is it sinking ?

Assuming you have the time, will and money, it could be a great place.

Keep the pit !

Here is Sweden you are allowed to remove Eternit shingles by yourself, and pack in sealed bags for disposal at the local recycling center. Breather mask and disposing all clothing used in the work is recommended though, so that's how I will do it. Professional removal is VERY expensive... You are probably right about the underlying panel though, I should be prepared that there is even more work there.

Yes, without at least a cleanup of the electrics I can't work there. Too risky. Will try to get three phase (380v) installed also. Will use a professional for this though.

There is three attached structures to the garage. First steel plate shed to the left of the door. Then the firewood storage to the right of the loft stairs. And lastly a makeshift building materials storage on the side facing away from the garden. I have not have a pro look at it, but it seems to be standing by itself.

There is some setting damages in the slab (cracks can be seen), so some sinking has occurred. The ground here is very muddy and can move a lot in the winter with the frost. The angles are surprisingly correct though I would say.

I have planned to spend a lot of time to fix this up, but will try to keep costs to a minimum. If fixing it up it not much cheaper than building new, I will not go through with it but save up to build a new one instead.
 

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A swedish garage ! I will follow this !
I have a similar project I'm working on, bur no thread here yet.
Where in sweden are you ?
 

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Cool old building, subscribed. I love these old building repair threads. Good luck and keep us updated with pics as work moves forward. :thumbup:
 

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Texas also allows disposal of that siding into the trash by homeowners only. Of course while removal takes place you should follow all safety precautions. Great place you have there.
 
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A swedish garage ! I will follow this !
I have a similar project I'm working on, bur no thread here yet.
Where in sweden are you ?

Hej på dig! I'm in Västmanland.

Cool old building, subscribed. I love these old building repair threads. Good luck and keep us updated with pics as work moves forward. :thumbup:

Thanks, I will try to keep work moving at some pace. Spring will hopefully increase the pace also.

Texas also allows disposal of that siding into the trash by homeowners only. Of course while removal takes place you should follow all safety precautions. Great place you have there.

Yes, it's really harmless when undisturbed, but when you're messing about with it you don't want to inhale it.

So, tomorrow the moving truck will start rolling. When I worked with the pictures for posting yesterday I noticed there seemed to be something under the bench. Checked again today and this was located there.
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A very peculiar old compressor. That tank looks home made, and the motor and block are probably scavenged from two different machines. We'll see if I ever dare to start it :)

I checked the vise also. The jaws are worn, and the flat anvil part is worn and rust pitted what looks beyond repair. :(

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And to finish this post off, some pics of the horrible electrics...

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What a great space to renovate - thanks for sharing!

I would respectfully disagree with you regarding the condition of the bench vise. It looks to me to be in pretty good shape overall - at least the jaws look like they are aligned and tighten up to each other quite well. Any identifiable markings on it?

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...Will try to get three phase (380v) installed also.
3 phase is almost impossible to get in most residential and even some farming areas.

There is some setting damages in the slab (cracks can be seen), so some sinking has occurred. The ground here is very muddy and can move a lot in the winter with the frost. The angles are surprisingly correct though I would say.
Before starting any repair work, find someone knowledgeable who can tell you if you have a good foundation. If not, you will always have problems.

Parts of the US get deep frost (well over 1M !). A proper foundation will not move. The floor inside a good foundation should not have large deep cracks.

A new cover is required, I want to have the floor as flat as possible. I'm thinking drying it out and covering it with tar paint might keep it try. Or just to fill it, since it wont be used much anyway probably.
If you want a flat dry concrete floor, the best solution is to take the old floor out. Lay in gravel and a good vapor barrier before pouring new concrete.

If you want to use this garage in the winter and are going to insulate the walls and ceiling you might want to check into a radiant heated floor.
 

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Hello, and congratulations on buying your 'torp'; please post more pictures of its interior. I wonder about the condition of the foundation too, but also the condition of the roof. Since you will eventually build new, you may find the time and money spent on this structure is not wise, but it does look like it was purpose built and does have a certain charm that may be worth your efforts. The pit, I think, should be kept and improved by adding a sump/pump if necessary; perhaps it just needs patching and sealing to keep ground water from collecting there. As for the tools present there, they really should be kept and restored, even if they are not used by you; they are part of the charm of the place itself. There are many threads here on restoration of tools and the great results achieved by the members here!
 

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Congratulations on the new home and shop. I hope the shop is saveable...it looks it. Has lots of character. And an upstairs...something I wish I had.
 
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Well, the thread was not of to a great start. Sorry for no updates... I have simply been busy. Now we are in and living here though. A big change from 50 m2 in Sweden's 5th biggest city to having no neighbours. Still only 25 minutes to the city though.

I have mostly worked with moving things in the house, but have spent some time inspecting things in the garage. Happy about no signs of water damage, sad about the water in the pit being 20 cm (8") deep. Temperatures here are still below freezing most of the time, and it's dark at 18 (6 pm). Awaiting spring, the snow from the last pictures is disappearing, and hoping there will be no new larger amounts.

That IS :scared: really horrible electrical work.

Yep.. Amazingly the fuses seem to survive. But getting this sorted is prioritised.

What a great space to renovate - thanks for sharing!

I would respectfully disagree with you regarding the condition of the bench vise. It looks to me to be in pretty good shape overall - at least the jaws look like they are aligned and tighten up to each other quite well. Any identifiable markings on it?

:beer:

Dave

You must be new here...

That is a very heavy duty vice. They aren't just for looks.

I think I was a bit unclear. This is what I mean is beyond my knowledge of repair:
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The jaws and sliding mechanism seems to be in decent order.
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There are some markings. One of them being "1929"!
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Anyone that knows anything about it from this?

3 phase is almost impossible to get in most residential and even some farming areas.

Before starting any repair work, find someone knowledgeable who can tell you if you have a good foundation. If not, you will always have problems.

Parts of the US get deep frost (well over 1M !). A proper foundation will not move. The floor inside a good foundation should not have large deep cracks.

If you want a flat dry concrete floor, the best solution is to take the old floor out. Lay in gravel and a good vapor barrier before pouring new concrete.

If you want to use this garage in the winter and are going to insulate the walls and ceiling you might want to check into a radiant heated floor.

I'm no electrician, but believe that this power central means there is three phase:
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That 3 phase is something uncommon must be a US thing also, you see it here a lot.

The foundation is a issue like you say. I think part of the problems is patchwork though. The larger slab is fine, but the floors in the smaller rooms are the damaged ones. As long as it is not about to collapse the building will remain though, I will just not put any larger money into it. Redoing the floor and such is not on the plans now, I'll save that for a new building instead.

Hello, and congratulations on buying your 'torp'; please post more pictures of its interior. I wonder about the condition of the foundation too, but also the condition of the roof. Since you will eventually build new, you may find the time and money spent on this structure is not wise, but it does look like it was purpose built and does have a certain charm that may be worth your efforts. The pit, I think, should be kept and improved by adding a sump/pump if necessary; perhaps it just needs patching and sealing to keep ground water from collecting there. As for the tools present there, they really should be kept and restored, even if they are not used by you; they are part of the charm of the place itself. There are many threads here on restoration of tools and the great results achieved by the members here!

I will post more. The problems is mostly that I don't have the camera when I'm in there and working.

The roof is old but not leaking, I have checked the inside and see no signs of moisture problems. The gutters needs some fixing though, and the drainage.

Even if it will not become my dream garage, I will keep the building as long as it isn't a hazard. It has that old garage charm and I have never heard of anybody having problems with too much space. One vintage garage and a modern one seems like the ultimate :)

I'm a bit of a hoarder and nothing will get thrown away. The grinding stone works and will be great for axes. The compressor might never get used again, but also works (it built up to 2 bar, then I chickened out and turned it off). There might be some water damage to the tank and piping though, I heard splashing.

Nice project you got there!
Great to see some people from nearby do their work on garages!
Good luck with the new place.

Thanks!

Congratulations on the new home and shop. I hope the shop is saveable...it looks it. Has lots of character. And an upstairs...something I wish I had.

Thanks! It certainly has character! I wish I manage to keep it and at the same time make it more usable. The upstairs will probably be filled with non-garage stuff though. At least until I can build a separate shed.
 
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Very cool project, must be kinda fun exploring your property and finding new things. Tons of work but it sounds like you will enjoy the process.


I like your signature btw ;)
 

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Me and my girlfriend started looking for a house a couple of years ago. When we found this we knew it was the one. A restored old "torp" (swedish cottage) on the country but still close to most things.
The exterior is covered with Eternit, a asbestos based paneling that was popular at the time for its durability. So that is one of the projects, to remove (all while being safe, of course) it and have a wood panel instead. And repaint it at the same time, gray or red probably.

I have some hope that the is a nice wood panel underneath the plates.
The fact that there is a wood panel under might indicate that parts of the building is older, I'm not sure yet.

Those trees are growing way to near the house also, and will be cut down.

So, my first things to take action on (aside from the exterior):

Fixing the wiring. The electrics are a mix of original, newly added and lots of exposed, unknown and damaged wires.

What to do with the pit. Thinking about filling it in or just building a new cover. I have not inspected the bottom yet, there is a thin layer of water in it.

Giving everything a fresh layer of white paint. To brighten up the place and to cover the art.

Finishing the paneling in the small rooms.

Adding iron bars inside the windows and improving the door lock.

Looking at the included machines, if it is anything worth keeping or if just to toss it.

Fixing the upper floor as storage area.

And there is tons more needed to do, and even more ideas of what to do.

Tjena Tjofrasse! What a lovely place! Very similar to my "stuga" in Blekinge (south-Sweden to all you non-nordic readers), although yours is the biggest.

A bit off-topic, but if the main building is a bit like mine, you will find a lot af "plast-matta" on the floors (plastic flooring) - but with beautyfull pine wooden slabs underneath - just needs a thorough sanding and some wood soap to look like a million. These wooden houses are of great quality, but I would recommend you to read "Så renoveras torp och gårdar" from the Ica publishers (Ica förlag), if you haven´t done it already...it shure did explain a lot of things for me...

Well, back to the garage: Yes you have 3 phase 380V. 3 main fuses and an un-isolated ground block. This is an old mainboard, so the ground wires are red instead of todays green/yellow standard! Since there is a tradition in Sweden for electrical heating in the houses, you´ll probably got 25 or at least 16A current. Enough for a good welder. So when you draw new cables around, remember to use 5 x 2,5 cables, that can handle the full current.

I would leave the pit untouched untill it gets warmer, and you can experience whether the water comes from the ground or from melting snow and rain. It doesnt look like theres enough room for a pillar lift, and then a pit might come in handy. I could use one for sure...

Regarding the trees, I would cut the ones near the garage down. But i would leave the two in front of the main building for now, and decide their destiny after spring. You might find the shadow of the leafs comfortable at midsummer. I see this very often, people moves to an old house, and turn a beautifull garden into a football plane...then, after a year or two, they start planting trees and bushes :lol:.

Regarding your Eternit exterior, I would remove the Eternit, and check the condition of the original wood panel. It looks like it was painted with "Falu-red", which is a very good rot protection. Please dont paint it with acrylic or oil-based paint, but renew it with real Falu-red ;) - it´s swedish heritage - and do the nescessary insulation on the inside of the walls instaed. Rockwool, plastic- or alu-foil and plasterboard (or plywood, if you need the strength). Remember to keep the foil on the "warm side" of the insulation - you probably know all this...

It can turn into a great garage. I will follow your progress.

Regards from Denmark
 
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So, once again I have to apologize for being bad at updating...

But anyways, spring is coming here to Sweden now. Nice with warmer weather and longer days.
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And I have mostly been busy trying to secure next years supply of firewood. There is 8700m2 of land, but only forrest growing on ~3000 of them, so I have to work smart to have a supply for the coming years.

I found this also out in the forrest, not too happy about it. More work, more to clean up...
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I have done something in the garage also though. Mostly cleaning up in order to prepare for painting. Pulling nails and other stuff from the walls and ceiling. I also have had to use the space somewhat for other projects. Trying to keep it to a minimum though, I don't want the place to fill up...
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The markings I have found on appliances:
Grinder stone.
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Groschopp u. Co Viersen/Rhid
50W, 1300rpm.

Compressor motor.
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Siemens

Compressor block.
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Electric motor with sander attached.
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Bauknecht Stuttgart-S.
0,25kW, 700 rpm.

Very cool project, must be kinda fun exploring your property and finding new things. Tons of work but it sounds like you will enjoy the process.

I like your signature btw ;)

I'm very happy with my project. The perfect thing to come home to after a working day in front of a computer.

Keep on dubbing ;)

Tjena Tjofrasse! What a lovely place! Very similar to my "stuga" in Blekinge (south-Sweden to all you non-nordic readers), although yours is the biggest.
You have a summer house in Sweden?
A bit off-topic, but if the main building is a bit like mine, you will find a lot af "plast-matta" on the floors (plastic flooring) - but with beautyfull pine wooden slabs underneath - just needs a thorough sanding and some wood soap to look like a million. These wooden houses are of great quality, but I would recommend you to read "Så renoveras torp och gårdar" from the Ica publishers (Ica förlag), if you haven´t done it already...it shure did explain a lot of things for me...
The house itself we will do very little on. It is refurbished 2005-2012 and most things are new. The floors are modern "click"-floors, not as nice as a original board floor, but practical. Roof, paneling, windows and interior is mostly new. The front door and the chimney is some of the few original parts. The door will be refurbished, that's the only plan now.
Well, back to the garage: Yes you have 3 phase 380V. 3 main fuses and an un-isolated ground block. This is an old mainboard, so the ground wires are red instead of todays green/yellow standard! Since there is a tradition in Sweden for electrical heating in the houses, you´ll probably got 25 or at least 16A current. Enough for a good welder. So when you draw new cables around, remember to use 5 x 2,5 cables, that can handle the full current.
Yes, as I thought then. That main circuit station will need to be replaced, or at least covered. Feels very risky having it exposed like that. I will leave it to a pro though...
I would leave the pit untouched untill it gets warmer, and you can experience whether the water comes from the ground or from melting snow and rain. It doesnt look like theres enough room for a pillar lift, and then a pit might come in handy. I could use one for sure...
There is no signs of it coming from above. Everything is dry and ground water level is high here. There is no room for a lift (the ceiling is very low) so the pit has its uses. We will see.
Regarding the trees, I would cut the ones near the garage down. But i would leave the two in front of the main building for now, and decide their destiny after spring. You might find the shadow of the leafs comfortable at midsummer. I see this very often, people moves to an old house, and turn a beautifull garden into a football plane...then, after a year or two, they start planting trees and bushes :lol:.
All trees too close to buildings will be removed. Both to spare the roofs and the foundations from damage. Some trees are good to have though, both for shade in the summer and wind protection out here on the fields. I will plant some new fruit trees also.
Regarding your Eternit exterior, I would remove the Eternit, and check the condition of the original wood panel. It looks like it was painted with "Falu-red", which is a very good rot protection. Please dont paint it with acrylic or oil-based paint, but renew it with real Falu-red ;) - it´s swedish heritage - and do the nescessary insulation on the inside of the walls instaed. Rockwool, plastic- or alu-foil and plasterboard (or plywood, if you need the strength). Remember to keep the foil on the "warm side" of the insulation - you probably know all this...
You don't have to worry, the replacement paneling will be real Faluröd. The paneling will surely need repairing, but it looks that it is still there and in decent condition. My hope is that they did not cover the building because the old paneling was rotten, but only to avoid it rotting :)
It can turn into a great garage. I will follow your progress.

Regards from Denmark
Thank you!
 

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Keep up the good work !

We are always interested in buildings and electrical, etc in other countries.
 

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Good luck with the renovation. The electrics in many Norwegian barns and old homes is much like the electrics in your garage. When painting the interior, make sure you check the moisture of the walls or else the paint will end up flaking off.

Paul.
 

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Your property is definitely turning into a treasure hunt. Were those old car parts that you found? The garage looks 10x better already simply by cleaning it up before you even start to fix it up.
 

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I think that garage has potential, but don't fill the pit, one day you might miss it.
About the electrical, every house in Sweden has 3-phase / 400V.

By the way, how could it be that every Swede on garagejournal seems to like VW? =)
 

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(...) By the way, how could it be that every Swede on garagejournal seems to like VW? =)

Maybe because you feel that driving a Volvo or Saab would be like driving i VW in Germany? :lol: I used to have a Volvo 745 turbo, and here in Denmark it was something special...but my swedish friends called it the "Sosse-container" (thats a hard one to translate - something like "union-man´s average car"...).
 
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Keep up the good work !

We are always interested in buildings and electrical, etc in other countries.
Thanks, I will keep working on it.
Cool project. That would be fun to work on.
Good luck!
Thanks, it is fun! Like all projects it is up and down though. Having a house is a lot of work.
I like it :) this is my sort of project, i'm really looking forward to this one. Keep up the good work and the updates :)
Thanks! I will try to keep you all informed of what is happening. Daily updates is not likely, but at least weekly.
Good luck with the renovation. The electrics in many Norwegian barns and old homes is much like the electrics in your garage. When painting the interior, make sure you check the moisture of the walls or else the paint will end up flaking off.

Paul.
Thanks! Yeah, this kind of stuff is not totally unusual. It just feels good that its just the outhouse. In the main building the electrics are modern and proper.

Both due to temperature and moisture I will avoid painting during the wet part of spring. Hopefully we're nearing dryer times...
Your property is definitely turning into a treasure hunt. Were those old car parts that you found? The garage looks 10x better already simply by cleaning it up before you even start to fix it up.
I would say more like garbage findings.. It's more stuff to dig out and haul of to the dump. It's the body of an old Volvo Amazon that is cut up and dumped under a pile of branches.

Yes, just a general clean up does a lot. And I hope that some new paint will give be even more of a quick fix :)
I think that garage has potential, but don't fill the pit, one day you might miss it.
About the electrical, every house in Sweden has 3-phase / 400V.

By the way, how could it be that every Swede on garagejournal seems to like VW? =)
Wow, I really think I'm on 50/50 in peoples opinions on the pit. GJ seems to be in favor of it though.

Yes, that 3-phase if standard in Sweden is my experience also. Especially on the country.

Good question. Perhaps it is just because VW fans are more interested in mechanics/garage culture than other car groups. Most other car enthusiasts I know have little or no interest in tools and garage organisation :)
Sandblast that spot clean, burn a couple of welding rods to build it up, then have it machined flat again :)
I will try to talk to an experienced stick welder. Would be nice to get looking better.
Maybe because you feel that driving a Volvo or Saab would be like driving i VW in Germany? :lol: I used to have a Volvo 745 turbo, and here in Denmark it was something special...but my swedish friends called it the "Sosse-container" (thats a hard one to translate - something like "union-man´s average car"...).
Yes, if you deal with Volvos here you will get teased a lot in car enthusiast circuits. There is a lot of derogatory nicknames for them, and are often seen like hicks, farmers, rednecks and such. At every car meet, there is always some stock 740 that drives recklessly, behaves like an a#$ and so. Still, there is some really nice Volvos being built also. It's just that they're cheap RWD cars, so they're the first car for many, and that is not good for a cars reputation. And among regular people, they're seen as good but boring and a "safe choice". Some translation attempts of "Sossecontainer" might be "Joe Schmoes car" or "Blue collar box". "Sosse" is short for Socialdemokraterna, the classical working mans political party here in Sweden.

So, not much done in the garage still. Mostly been working with firewood and the forest.

I have a picture of the one place where the "Eternit" plates are not placed. This is in the "firewood shed" (firewood storage place, the simple building next to the stairs), where the old red wood paneling is visible.
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I just discovered it and seeing the huge potentia of the place and the beetle in your avatar-picture, also looking forward to an update:thumbup:
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