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My New Legacy Industrial Garage Floor

trevor_s

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I just completed my DIY garage floor using Legacy Industrial products. I will attempt to outline the process here. After researching for over a month I decided to go with the Legacy products partly because of good reviews I found on this forum. I was also experiencing information overload from my research and the many product reviews of all the various products available. It was just time to pull the trigger. I live in South Louisiana and even though it is February the weather was favorable for me to get it done.

I have an attached 2 car garage that is approx. 420 square feet. I decided to go with Legacy's HD system. One kit was not enough so I had to purchase the kit for 600 sq feet ($309) which you can see here

http://legacyindustrial.net/cart/legacy-hd-system-600-sq-ft-p-202.html

I also included the optional primer +$155 and the optional clear coat +$249

I purchased chips separately from a company named Original Color Chips. I purchased 20 pounds of their Black Marble Sparkle Blend at a total cost, including 2 day fed ex shipping, of $179. I wasn't sure I wanted to do a heavy coverage when I ordered the epoxy kit from Legacy so I did not purchase additional chips. They ship each 300 sq ft. kit with 1 pound of chips. I finally decided I wanted as full a coverage as I could afford. Even though my square footage called for 50 pounds of chips to achieve a heavy coverage I purchased what I could afford. I like the black and white metallic blend and the chips were available, the price was right and I could get them in 2 days.

I'm glad I had the extra product to work with. One of the most difficulty areas of the job as a 1st time diy-er was figuring out how much epoxy primer, epoxy and urethane top coat to roll out so that I had enough for the entire job. Because I purchased enough for 600 sq ft. I didn't really have to worry about that.

I did 2 1/2 days of prep work to the floor. Pressure wash/degrease, acid etch twice, pressure wash again, fill holes, and cracks, grind high spots and areas that still did not quite look etched enough.

Day ONE: Coating the floor the epoxy primer. Mixed each single batch per instructions. Simple enough. Applied the primer to the floor by pouring an 8"x4' foot ribbon and rolling with paint roller. Because I was working by myself I wasn't sure I wanted to paint the concrete skirting. I was worried it would take too long and the product I had mixed would begin to harden on me. The primer has a longer pot life than the HD epoxy so I decided to paint the skirting with the gray epoxy primer only. When I finished rolling the first mixed batch of primer I stopped and mixed the second batch to finish the floor. I had enough left over to go over some areas that I didn't quite cover well enough the first time. Particularly the vertical surface of the skirting.

NOTE: I did purchase the professional spike shoes so I could walk in the wet areas while working.

DAY 2: The HD Epoxy Coat. The HD Epoxy coat was mixed using the same method as the epoxy primer. I mixed 1 batch at a time. This has a shorter pot life than the primer and since this coat gets the chips I knew I had to work at a good pace. I did not HD Epoxy coat the skirting as previously mentioned. I thought the primer would be good enough. I think it requires a 2 man crew to try and epoxy coat the skirting while trying to do the chips and roll the floor all while the clock is ticking on the epoxy set up time. I rolled areas about 6 foot wide by 6 foot deep and then stopped and distributed the chips using the toss in the air method. I'll explain more about the chips later. The HD Exoxy rolled out similar to the primer but I could tell when it was staring to thicken or harden toward the 30 minute mark. I had enough product to complete the garage floor with about a 1/4 gallon left over.

DAY 2 CONTINTUED: The Chips. I purchased 20 pounds of chips as previously stated. I wanted as close to heavy or full coverage as possible. Legacy shipped 1 pound with each kit so I had 22-23 pounds of chips total. I mixed legacy's black and white chips in with the chips I purchased from originalcolorchips.com and then separated the total amount of chips into 4 equal bags. I used each bag to cover a 1/4 of my garage. I wanted to make sure I had a few chips left over from each quarter of my garage so I could go back over any areas that needed additional chips. I would work a 6x6 area and then roll out more epoxy for the next section and work that area with chips until completion.

DAY 3. The Urethane Top Coat. This sounds like the easiest part of the job but it is tricky. It was difficult to tell exactly where where I was rolling and I had a fear of running out of product. This is much thinner than epoxy and I was surprised at how fast I was using the product. Because I had 2 gallons when I was finished with the 1st gallon I was almost exactly at the 1/2 way point of the garage. I was careful not to lay down too much on the 2nd half until I was sure I had every inch coated then I went over a couple of spots again. I do have some low spots in my garage that are glossier than other areas because the urethane pooled but it is not dramatic enough for me to be dissapointed over.

THE RESULTS: I have attached the photos. Unfortunately I did not take a photo before I started the prep work. The floor was almost black compared to this photo of the prepped floor. I have to say I am extremely pleased with the results. The decision to go with heavy chips was a good one for me. I like the look and my wife is pleased:D. It was raining when I took these and I had not installed my new overhead light yet so trust me when I tell you that these photos do not do it justice. Also the camera did not pick up the metallic chips. The floor looks like a granite or terrazzo floor.

Feel free to ask me any questions and I will do my best to answer them.

EDIT: In an attempt to try and capture the metallic flake I took a few more photos but the camera just doesn't pick them up. The metallic silver shows up as brown. There are no brown chips. I installed a new flourescent light so the lighting is better in these photos. Still not natural day light but pretty good.
 

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I left out an important comment regarding Legacy Industrial. The service was really good. I had an issue with a UPS shipment after 5:00 on a Friday and they actually answered the phone and were trying to help resolve the problem. Turned out the ups driver had left a box on the truck and while Legacy was trying to get to the bottom of the missing box UPS came back and dropped off the box. Legacy answered my e-mails and delivered their product as promised.
 

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Damn!Thats nice!

Nice job Trevor.

Thanks for taking the time to write the review.
 
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was it top coat a 2 part lpu or a cheaper 1 part poly?

This is right off Legacy's website. It is a 1 part urethane.

HD-356VOC Urethane Clear Coat
Premium aliphatic urethane clear coat. VOC compliant, single component and easy to use. This sealer was designed to topcoat epoxy floor coating systems or seal raw concrete. Use on these popular (2) part epoxy brands and more: Legacy Industrial's Standard and HD Epoxy Kits, Epoxy-Coat, Norklad, U-Coat It, ArmorCoat, etc.... Easy to apply using brush and roller. Coverage is approx. 400 sq ft., per gallon, surface dependent.
 

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Looks very nice. I like the color density.:rocker:

How about some info on the prep process, ie. removing oil stains etc.

Thanks.

Rick
 
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Looks very nice. I like the color density.:rocker:

How about some info on the prep process, ie. removing oil stains etc.

Thanks.

Rick

Thanks for the compliments guys.

Yeah, the prep process. Its everything everybody talks about on this and other forums. A pain in the A*S. But the way I saw it, if I was going to spend this kind of time and money on my garage floor, I only want to do this one time.

I'll go into all of the detail of the prep including things NOT related to the floor. First in order to do this project I had to empty my garage. So I ordered a POD (one of those temporary storage sheds to sit in my driveway with the contents of my garage) Add another $250 for one months rent on that. Then I had to empty the contents of my garage into the pod. No easy feat. I decided to spackle all the holes in my wall and ceiling and prime both. That took a couple of days. I will be painting soon but I had to move on to the floor because I was waiting for good weather and couldn't miss my window.

Now the floor prep. 1st. - Straight pressure wash. 2nd degrease heavy grease spots and pressure wash again. 3rd. Acid etch the entire garage, twice - I wanted to be sure. The garage floor is 34 years old and was troweled very smooth. 4th. Pressure wash again, super close to the floor to be sure I got all of the acid etch and any loose particles. 5th. I filled the cracks and large holes with a Quickrete fill product that set in 24 hours. 6th. I ground down the high spots and any areas of the floor that still looked and felt a little too smooth and shop vacced the debris. I used a hand held grinder with a masonry bit. 7th. I placed two dehumidifiers in the garage for 24 hours on continuous run to be absolutely sure It was 100% dry. Overkill, maybe, but again I only want to do this once.

The floor prep process took 3 1/2 days.

The bare garage floor you see in the photos is after all of these steps. Night and day from when I started. Only wish I would have taken a photo before doing anything.

Forgot to mention that I scrubbed the grease spots with a wire brush and overall scrubbed the floor while acid etching with a stiff bristle push broom.
 
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What size chips did you use...the standard or the micro chips?

I used standard 1/4". For the heavy coverage I wanted this seemed to be the best option. Not to mention the smaller chips cost more.

If I can get my camera to pick up the reflection of the metallic chips I'll post another pic. Its a good look.

Here is a link to originalcolorchips.com and the black marble sparkle chip swatch. Even this does not show the metallic chips really well. When you see them in person its a great look in my opinion

http://www.originalcolorchips.com/images/Black-Marble-Sparkle-Full-Broadcast-Lg.jpg
 

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That looks great. Job well done.

How did you deal with the water heater? I notice it's present in both the before/after photo of the primer.
 
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That looks great. Job well done.

How did you deal with the water heater? I notice it's present in both the before/after photo of the primer.

Thanks. There were only a few areas where I had to cut in and the water heater was one of them. It wasn't realistic to remove the water heater and have my family functioning w/out hot water for a week. I taped off the base of the water heater and cut in with a brush when I did the epoxy primer coat and the epoxy main coat w/chips. I removed the tape immediately after cutting in these areas or at least within minutes. I did not tape for the urethane top coat I was just careful when I cut in around it.

There is some floor on the side of the water heater and behind it that is not coated but you have to get right up agains the wall to see it. The washer and dryer goes almost right up against the water heater so its an area that is never seen.
 
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I updated the pics with some taken under better lighting. I tried to add as a new post but it wouldn't let me so I deleted some of the original pics and replaced with new.
 

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Looks great, what is the chip application like for full coverage? I did a very light coverage and threw it like confetti. To get full coverage, do you do the same thing but with more chips? After it is dry are there loads of loose chips? Did you roll over them with clear or vacuum them up?

Floor looks great!

thanks.
 

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Trevor:

How about some more details :dunno::dunno::

What degreaser did you use? And, what acid did you use?

Obviously, I am kinda in your situation before you started this process and like you I would like to get it right the first time:rocker:.

Thanks!

Rick
 
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Looks great, what is the chip application like for full coverage? I did a very light coverage and threw it like confetti. To get full coverage, do you do the same thing but with more chips? After it is dry are there loads of loose chips? Did you roll over them with clear or vacuum them up?

Floor looks great!

thanks.

The recommended amount of chips for FULL coverage for my square footage was 50lbs of chips. That is a lot of chips. I purchased 20 lbs. (+ the 2 lbs of chips I received from Legacy) and divided that into 4 equal bags to make it more manageable and to be able to see what I using once I reached the 1/4 stage of my floor. I used the spike shoes so I was able to walk into the wet rolled areas of epoxy and toss or drop the chips from about neck high until I had good coverage on that area of the floor. Then I filled in the areas of the floor where it looked like more were needed. Some parts of my floor ended up chips on top of chips, true full coverage, where other areas of my floor ended up chips with epoxy flooring showing in the gaps. But the overall effect is an effect of full coverage. There are some areas of my floor that could have used a few more chips in my opinion. But I am a perfectionist. Once I get everything moved back into my garage it will be hardly noticeable to anyone but me. When I swept/vacuumed before top coating I ended up with a 1/2 full nice size gallon zip lock back of loose chips that I will save for future floor repairs if needed.

FOR TRUE FULL COVERAGE THE RECOMMENDED PROCESS IS THIS: This is what I have read and the way I understood it. Use the recommended amount of chips for your square footage from whichever chip company you choose to purchase for your floor for heavy/full coverage. This would have been 50 lbs in my case. This will allow for chip on top of chip coverage. In other words, no epoxy will be showing when you are done throwing down the chips. The next step would be to dry roll the chips. That is, after you have lay down all of the chips on your floor you take a brand new unused paint roller and walk back onto the floor with the spike shoes and dry roll the chips with light pressure. You are basically pressing down the chips so you assure adhesion of the full coverage in all areas. After 24 hours you would vacuum up the loose chips and then lightly scrape the chips with a floor scraper to remove chips that that were barely stuck or standing on end. This would give you a relatively flat surface of full coverage chips. Then you would sweep up those loose chips and coat with your preferred top coat.

NOTE: This type of coverage gives you a floor with a lot of texture even after you top coat. I have areas in my floor that have more texture than others because I did not have 50 lbs of chips to max cover all areas. Mine was a compromise but I still love the look.
 
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Trevor:

How about some more details :dunno::dunno::

What degreaser did you use? And, what acid did you use?

Obviously, I am kinda in your situation before you started this process and like you I would like to get it right the first time:rocker:.

Thanks!

Rick

I'll try and get the names of the products I used. They slip my mind right now. I used a Degreaser and Acid Etch from Home Depot. Separate products, not one combined. Standard stuff. Nothing too special.
 

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Ease of repair depends on type of damage and how long it was left damaged. trevor s floor will be easy to hide the repair. If it is a solid color floor, it will look like a band aid, unless you recoat whole floor.
 
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FYI — I just added to the calendar on my phone which is synced with my work and home computer to do a 1 year update of the floor. I was reading through this thread "Epoxy Coat: 18 month review" and figured it would be helpful to others.
 

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FYI — I just added to the calendar on my phone which is synced with my work and home computer to do a 1 year update of the floor. I was reading through this thread "Epoxy Coat: 18 month review" and figured it would be helpful to others.

You missed your one year review... You can do the 18 month now :lol:

Great review btw
 
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