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Old 03-30-2013, 09:20 PM   #1
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I have the hf 44 top and bottom toolboxes.Today i was in the garage staring at it and wanted to switch the two deep drawers from the top for 4 shallow drawers from tje bottom so this involved moving a couple slides and. swaping the drawers easy enough ......wrong drawers are not compatible the locks are different but worse then that is the slides are completely. reversed meaning you can get the drawer in but you can't get it out so once i found the locks wouldn't work it took me forever to it back to normal
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Old 03-30-2013, 10:37 PM   #2
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Lol that would be my luck !!!!
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Ouch! That sux!

Thanx for the heads up!
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:42 AM   #4
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Man this is not good to hear.

I have ordered slides to do this exact conversion. The deep drawers from the top chest only have a single slide while the deep drawers in the bottom roller have dual slides.

My plan was to add the new slides to the top chest where the deep drawers are and then swap the deep drawers with narrows from the bottom chest.

What is the difference in the locks?

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Old 03-31-2013, 04:59 AM   #5
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The top box is a 45 degree lock and the bottom is a 180 degree lock ...take out two dtawers and compare the backs you'll see ...this is how it is on my box i can't imagine yours would be any different
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Old 03-31-2013, 08:32 AM   #6
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Bummer man! Thanks for the post, my sister's bf was looking to do the same thing with his box last week when I left for TX. Just texted him to cease and desist! Thanks again!!
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:27 PM   #7
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Well I pulled out the drawers from the chest and the roller bottom.

I have the old red crinkle style.

The drawer locks are different, while the slides appear swapped left to right as the release lever is oriented different.

The drawers themselves are the same size.

Looks like I will be having to swap the slides and the locks.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Old 03-31-2013, 12:34 PM   #8
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I just did this with no issues with the slides. The locks are different. The bottom drawers have a mechanism riveted to the back. I just drilled the rivets and popped them off. This allows the drawers to slide the whole way in the top chest. I'm not worried about locking it but the tabs for the top could be made easily enough.
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Old 03-31-2013, 03:02 PM   #9
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Well I pulled out the drawers from the chest and the roller bottom.

I have the old red crinkle style.

The drawer locks are different, while the slides appear swapped left to right as the release lever is oriented different.

The drawers themselves are the same size.

Looks like I will be having to swap the slides and the locks.

Thanks for the heads up.
Correct i wish i knew this when i started..its gonna be a good look good luck to ya post some finished product pics
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:06 AM   #10
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Ok - the drawer conversion is done.

Couple of key points associated with this conversion:

1. The upper chest double drawers use single slides while the bottom roller double drawers use double slides. The holes and slots for addition of the slide in the top chest are factory punched.

2. I used 3/16" pop rivits which required slight enlargement of the holes after the slides were fully seated.

3. The slide halves were not interchangeable top chest to bottom roller. Thus, I had to remove the slide halves that were attached to the drawers and keep them in their original locations.

4. The lock mechanism is different between the chest and the roller. The roller uses a swing type latch mechanism while the chest uses a small piece of bent metal.

5. I match marked all drawers and then drilled rivits and swapped the locks. I made my own bent metal pieces for the top chest lock conversion.

6. All drawers now lock perfect after the converison.

7. I also have two 7-drawer cabinets and swapped the single drawers between them.
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Old 04-24-2013, 05:07 AM   #11
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Few more pictures
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:11 AM   #12
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good job, thanks for taking time to show the work. that is a killer amount of storage!!
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Old 04-24-2013, 06:20 AM   #13
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I have some of those HF boxes and they are great for the money. I am too lazy to change things. LOL
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Nice Job Larry and thanks for the info/pictures. I may just have to do the same as I hate the deep drawers in the top box.
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Just found this off a different thread. Thanks for the pics and write up Larry! Just about solidifies the fact that I'll have to buy this combo soon just to do this as well...
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Man this is not good to hear.

I have ordered slides to do this exact conversion. The deep drawers from the top chest only have a single slide while the deep drawers in the bottom roller have dual slides.

My plan was to add the new slides to the top chest where the deep drawers are and then swap the deep drawers with narrows from the bottom chest.

What is the difference in the locks?
Do you have an item number for the slides that you ordered? Did the slides you ordered match the slides to the top cabinet, or the bottom chest?
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Old 12-15-2013, 04:09 PM   #17
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Default Re: Do not try this at home

Just thought I would update this thread for reference. I successfully changed around my drawers as pictured and also added slides to two of the larger drawers (originally in the top cabinets) that only come with one set of slides. I still have two drawers (one narrow and one wide) that have only one set slides. I may add slides to these in the future, but for now I am happy to use these for lighter duty storage.

Here is the part # for the slides as I ordered them (late October 2013):
Item # Qty Description
13605 2 90320 DRAW SLIDE 1 PC

The above got me 4 individual slides--2 sets. The part description uses the term "1 PC" as you can see, but the part # is for a set of slides.
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Old 12-15-2013, 04:28 PM   #18
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The top box is a 45 degree lock and the bottom is a 180 degree lock ...take out two dtawers and compare the backs you'll see ...this is how it is on my box i can't imagine yours would be any different
Wow...wonder why they did that?
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Old 12-15-2013, 04:36 PM   #19
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Just thought I would update this thread for reference. I successfully changed around my drawers as pictured and also added slides to two of the larger drawers (originally in the top cabinets) that only come with one set of slides. I still have two drawers (one narrow and one wide) that have only one set slides. I may add slides to these in the future, but for now I am happy to use these for lighter duty storage.

Here is the part # for the slides as I ordered them (late October 2013):
Item # Qty Description
13605 2 90320 DRAW SLIDE 1 PC

The above got me 4 individual slides--2 sets. The part description uses the term "1 PC" as you can see, but the part # is for a set of slides.
Is that part number for the top slides or bottom?
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Old 12-15-2013, 04:39 PM   #20
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Both. On older versions of the box it may be different, but on mine which is a more recent version the slides are interchangeable between top and bottom box. It's the locking mechanism that differs of course. It was the bottom drawers of the top box that only come with one set of slides. I added slide but also moved drawers to the bottom cabinet

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