My Florida 30x50 Pole garage begins

941designs · Apr 5, 2013

After months of "lurking", I had plans drawn by a local architect, submitted for permits by the county, and the fun began. My father in law from Michigan came down to help me, as this is his craft and trade, unlike me. We scheduled two weeks to go from bare dirt to a somewhat complete building. Today is day 14, and all we are missing are wall panels on one side, (due to being damaged when shipped), and the garage doors.

I will add commentary later, but tonight I am just trying to post pics and go from there. All I can say is after 14 days of back breaking labor, I am very pleased and SORE...

941designs · Apr 5, 2013

I am planning on ordering my garage doors, 18' wide by 10' high, and 10' by 10' from doorson-line.com. They are Amarr doors, very basic, with openers, for about $3,000 total. I have to keep this up to code, so they seem like a decent choice. Any opinions, comments are very welcome. This community has provided me with hours of wisdom soaking from my couch. I thank you all.

941designs · Apr 5, 2013

This is the last picture from tonight.

Overall, the level of customer service from lumber yards and suppliers is killing me. We are a country of people "desperately" seeking work, yet those with jobs don't appear to give a **** about good service. Ugh. Anyways, the new sheetmetal for the west wall will be here next week.

A brief synopsis of my garage is as follows... 30' by 50'. 12 foot high sidewalls. 26 Gauge metal panels from Metal Sales. 6"x6" P.T. posts, set in 4 foot holes, with concrete, 24" in diameter. Plans called for a 12" deep and wide footer also. Here is the weird part, they called for rebar to go THROUGH all posts continuously around the perimeter, so we did so... Anyways, I will be very open to all about my costs, since this was a topic I found hard to pin down to solid numbers.

I spent the following:

$1500 on trusses, 48" on center
$4000 on fiber mesh concrete, 8 yards for columns, 21 yards for footers and slab
$6000 in metal siding/roofing
$4000 in lumber and hardware
$3000 in garage doors
$900 for a damn permit
$800 Soffitt and Fascia
Probably another $1000 on Bobcat rental, auger rental, boxes of nails, etc...

I haven't began the electrical plans, but that would be next.

Hope you enjoy!

941designs · Apr 5, 2013

I forgot site prep was another $1200 or so, had to have dirt brought in an built up for the pad. Ugh. I am well over $20,000, but very pleased to see the so called fruits of my labor!

941designs · Apr 5, 2013

I know with a whopping ONE post, this may be asking much, but PLEASE visit my wife's business listed in my SIG too. She works very hard on producing a good product that I am sure many of you would dig. Thanks!

JCQuick · Apr 6, 2013

What county are you in?

Worsedog · Apr 6, 2013

Looks like Manatee, from the website. No address, but I saw Bradenton at the top of one of the pages.

venom50svt · Apr 6, 2013

Gee, it looks like a great space---BUT-- by the time you are done with it and all the doors are in, it is probably will feel small once you get some stuff in there..

I have toyed with a garage like that, I wonder what the cost diff is between a garage like yours or a metal butler type building...

LegacyIndustrial · Apr 6, 2013

Very nice build. Where in central Florida?

941designs · Apr 7, 2013

Eastern Manatee County, just south of Tampa by about an hour. MBMI buildings quoted me the same garage, minus the lean to for around 17,000. That was installed, minus the slab. Estimates for that concrete work were well above $5,000. Sooo, in the end, I got to spend two weeks off work with my father in law, and I have a building with more flexibility than a metal only one offers.

As far as the size goes, my budget limited me to 30 by 50. Honestly, for what I intend to use it for, I don't think the walls will begin closing in on me anytime soon.

941designs · Apr 7, 2013

Lastly, most all metal garages come with no architectural appeal. Very simple and boxy. We did our best to add the soffit and make it less bland.

Modifieddriver · Apr 7, 2013

941designs said:
Overall, the level of customer service from lumber yards and suppliers is killing me. We are a country of people "desperately" seeking work, yet those with jobs don't appear to give a **** about good service. Ugh. Anyways, the new sheetmetal for the west wall will be here next week.

A brief synopsis of my garage is as follows... 30' by 50'. 12 foot high sidewalls. 26 Gauge metal panels from Metal Sales. 6"x6" P.T. posts, set in 4 foot holes, with concrete, 24" in diameter. Plans called for a 12" deep and wide footer also. Here is the weird part, they called for rebar to go THROUGH all posts continuously around the perimeter, so we did so... Anyways, I will be very open to all about my costs, since this was a topic I found hard to pin down to solid numbers.

I spent the following:

$1500 on trusses, 48" on center
$4000 on fiber mesh concrete, 8 yards for columns, 21 yards for footers and slab
$6000 in metal siding/roofing
$4000 in lumber and hardware
$3000 in garage doors
$900 for a damn permit
$800 Soffitt and Fascia
Probably another $1000 on Bobcat rental, auger rental, boxes of nails, etc...

I haven't began the electrical plans, but that would be next.

Hope you enjoy!

Nice build, great looking building. I'm just starting a similar build.

Did you concrete the entire post in the hole? I read where that wasn't recommended, but perhaps code calls for it where you are.

Tying the posts together with rebar must be a Florida code thing for wind. Sounds like if a post goes to leave it has to take the slab with it!!

I like your cost list. The damn permit is a nice touch. I have a real case of bad attitude about fees and taxes, especially when a guy is doing property improvements. I'm doing 3,600 sq. ft. and the permit cost me $112. It's based upon the building cost. I gave them just that, the building cost, no labor, etc..

bldgengineer · Apr 7, 2013

just over 20K isn't bad at all! my 30x40 I have planned is 20k before concrete and rentals. Material is so expensive here that its almost worth paying a contractor to just go ahead and get it done. My last contractor quote for a 30x50 $25K.

Looks good! I like how you have it designed.

941designs · Apr 7, 2013

The 18 poles for the main building are 4 feet deep with 24" diameter, filled with concrete. The 4 poles for the lean to are only 3' deep by 24". I had 8 yards in concrete to set the poles. Then 21 yards for the slab with a 12" footer all the way around. This was all per the engineer/architect.

Thanks for the compliments as well!

1/2 Cup · Dec 26, 2013

You have a great build Sir, any updates?

941designs · Mar 1, 2016

Well 2 years since I updated this build!

My apologies, so here is one.

I need a suggestion on the most user friendly image hosting site.

The one I'm using is garbage.

941designs · Mar 1, 2016

Can a moderator move my thread the the GALLERY section please?

I don't know how...

theoldwizard1 · Mar 1, 2016

You might want to check

. It is their replacement for the now defunct Picasa. No experience.

Back to you build ... how big were the holes for the posts ?

matt_i · Mar 1, 2016

I have been pleased with Flickr so far, used to use Photo Bucket until it got filled and they wanted to charge me for the rest of my life

emeraldcoupe · Mar 1, 2016

nice shop. wish I had the property to build myself one.

tomd · Mar 1, 2016

theoldwizard1 said:
Back to you build ... how big were the holes for the posts ?

see post #14 above

941designs · Mar 1, 2016

theoldwizard1 said:
You might want to check

. It is their replacement for the now defunct Picasa. No experience.

Back to you build ... how big were the holes for the posts ?

22 6x6 posts, each had 2' diameter by 4' deep columns of concrete before the pad was poured.

Wind rated for west central Florida.

ed_v · Mar 2, 2016

nice building!

How big is the office you added? I'm thinking of adding a 8'x12' office to my garage.

Ed

941designs · Mar 2, 2016

The office is 12x12. Fits perfectly between the two overhead doors. I will get on my desktop soon to upload a bunch of pictures from the last two years.

The office has a window a/c unit that exhausts into the garage, so no outside Windows.

I have a nice little TV with free hdtv antenna channels.

TestBill · Mar 3, 2016

941Designs,

Very nice looking building, congratulations.

I'm not very knowledgeable about concrete, but can you, or someone, help me understand your concrete slab work. In previous posts, you say "Plans called for a 12" deep and wide footer" and also "Then 21 yards for the slab with a 12" footer all the way around".

I thought a "slab" (maybe called a floating slab) usually meant a thickness of 4 or 6 inches of concrete with maybe 2 inches thicker at the edges. But here, if I read it right, your "edges" are 12 inches deep and 12 inches wide. I thought one of the advantages of Pole Barns was that 1) you don't need a concrete floor and 2) if you want a concrete floor, the cost is significantly less because you don't need the deep/wide footer.

Maybe 12 inches deep and 12 inches wide is not "significant" when compared to traditional foundations?

Thanks,
Bill

941designs · Mar 19, 2016

Florida. Hurricanes. Wind rated.

That should explain my excessive use of concrete vs a pole barn in Ohio.

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