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RSOllie

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helo all :wave:

Right first post here so i better make it a good one
been lurking on here for a while now and been itching to get a thread up but wanted to get abit done so theres something to read lol

my story is
me and my fiancee brought this house in may 2012, its a 60s 3 bed semi with a corner plot. a very common style house in the uk
we moved from our last bungalow wich over a couple of years was gutted and referbished and sold on to get a bigger house to stay in abit longer its got a 70 odd ft rear garden and at the bottom is were i plan to make me garage/workshop. it will defo not be a shop like some of the units on here :bowdown:
but in england unless you have a few mill£ in the bank haveing the space and money to do such projects is very hard

its going to be a project that i aim to have done by this time next year so please dont expect it to fly up as i work full time and it will be a weekend/evening project
its mainly to house my "big love" the focus RS and keep it safe and sucure and also to be a sort of "working garage" when i come to give the RS a rebuild!
and firstly a pic of said love
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most of the pics and info are from my build thread on detailing world so please excuse the random comment lol
the new posts will make sence:thumbup:

p.s the pics arent the best quality because BOTH of my cameras dont wana turn on!

well on to the plans!:thumb:

i am going for what i call a "barn style garage"
so a few courses of bricks and then a timber frame and roof on top.
it will be 1m away from boundrys and be 4.7m wide and 6.7m(outside messurements) long making 30sqmtrs to comply with "permitted development"
(basicly dont need planning permission for it)
it will have electric and possible running water down there.

this is my garden viewed from the flat roof of the current attached garage
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the garage will be going across the end of the garden with a drop kerb from the road side of the property

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this is the area were the garage will go (wich is the far right corner)

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and this is the complete area thats will be changed with a hard stand area were the tree is atm!

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view from the far bottom corner (were the double gate will be) towards the house
(bit of a mess atm lol:()

the plan is to put up an new fence right along the left side of the garden and also along the bottom (moving it closer to my boundry)
excervate down about 6 meters away from the back fence so that the whole area will be lower than the rest of the garden (hopefully drop down about a foot to help keep the height down)
dig footings for brickwork for garage and small retainging wall
drainage
build a few courses for the timber frame to sit on (about 7 courses)
build retaining wall
concrete garage floor and area for hard stand
timber frame and roof on
clad and cover roof
sort inside
landscapeing

just a quick run down of my thought process:lol:

so on to phase 1
GROUNDWORKS

this was actually started in augest time as thats when the drop kerb was put in wich can be seen here

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dug out and drop kerbs layed, with ********* in fill
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concrete layed with a exspasion joint in middle to prevent cracking
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then the path was dug up concreted and slabs layed back down
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and all done!
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all work was carried out buy a local groundworks firm and i am very pleased with how it looks
 
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so then i started to clear the side of my boundry to make way for the new fence!

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this is on the outside of my fence along the side of the garden
as you can see there are a couple a lillys growing and have pushed out some of my kerbs!
so i spent some time digging two of them up and lifted the kerbs out ready for me to relay nice and straight!

first one
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gone
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number 2
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horrible stuff!!!
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done
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and please no laughing as i am no good at drawing but might give u a better idea of what im planning!
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resetting kerbs
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first one all done

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all done!

next!
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there are some nasty bush stumps hideing in there:censored:
and that holly tree is gota go to!

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thats the very well made gate ive ordered


next i started clearing all of the small bush stumps etc revealing 6 much larger bush stumps
plus the holly tree roots, it all has to come out befor the fence can go in i have been dreading these stumps and the one in the garden but i will use the digger for that one!

couple of pics with it nearly clear of all the small stumps/plants
i will tackle some of the stumps tomoz as well!
befor
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after
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i got this one out on new years eve, but it took me 2 hours to do it lol
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its not the biggest root in the world but weighs about 40kg and had about 100 roots connected!


finaly got all the roots out!
i reckon its taken 2.5 days to get them all out but it was well worth it
now on with the new fence! wich i ordered a few days ago and is geeting here thursday
26 bays worth of featheredge fenceing, 4 inch posts and 2 6inch posts for the double gates
supplyed by a local timber merchant at a very good price:thumb:

looking foward to doing it really as it will really start the ball rolling :D

anyway a few piccys! "with now working again camera":thumb:

last big root gone!
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was getting dark time i finished!:mad:
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gota set this last kerb back as well
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couple of better shots of the house
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fenceing started
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it aint easy boarding by urself lol u need 3 hands:D

and i carnt wait to get the old fence down!
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and the lovley gates sitting in the current garage!
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that will be the old man :headscratlol


well despite the weather i havent had a bad couple of days really

saturday morning i had to work so as soon as i got back me and my chippy mate set to work hanging the double gates (wich actually wernt as bad as i thought) lol
they went up very well with a yale lock on to keep them locked up
it was bas*ard cold yesterday so after we done that we went in and got on the chicken soup :p
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we got the hinges on in the garage then offered them up and all looked good (mainly the brilliant post setting;))
so got them hung
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then got started on the yale
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sorted i am really happy with it as i aint no chippy lol
i will be putting another hinge in the middle and some diagonal braces when i get a chance but i just wanted to get it up!

then befor it got dark me and THE MISSES was out in the frezing snow, shes a good girl lol
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and basicly done!
i will get some better photos in the day but it look awasome!
Small update!
Tore the old shed down today ready to start the new fence on saturday!
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There is alot of concrete under it and to the side so that will be fun to break up!


so this weekend i will break up all the concrete and move it to my ******** pile, to mainly make the diggers life abit easyer
cut down the big tree at the back and burn all remaining wood
hopefully dig and lay a base for me shed (only about 7/8 slabs)
and also buy and fit new outside lights

and then digger time next week hopefully:driver::thumb:

anyway some pics!

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how it started

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the shed will be going in the right corner of this photo

heres some finished pictures of the fence

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and this is the garage marked out in red spray!
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Last week i managed to get all the concrete broke up ready for the digger and also cut down the large tree wich was fun bymeself lol (actually got me chainsaw stuck up the tree at one point lol)

And then this week end i had the digger in
Now im quite unhappy with just how much we got done with the digger as i did not feel at all well sat and sun and wasent as much help as i shouldve been
So we only manged to reduce dig (about 25tonn came out of the end and more lol)
So i have now got to dig the footings by hand, which tbh wont be a killer as the soil is lovely here lol
But other than the footings i need to start on the new small shed project so i can get rid of the green house so still a long list lol
Any way some pics!

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I think i will give a few companys a bell today

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Also on the progress front ive got hold of a second hand mixer wich will save loads of cash renting one
And also bought me a second hand electric garage door!
I needs a good clean and bit of spraying on the metal work but for £75 i cant complain, it will at least do me for a couple of years!
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now its all set out for the footings and i got a few meters dug out
i hope to get it all dug out and concreted

couple of pics

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:mad:

Also ive got all the bricks sorted
1220 for £300 BOOM
Good old ebay

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I got the footings all dug out and concreted it was a big job considering i done it alone ( well the misses was helping me at the end lol)

I think i went abit over the top on the entrance footings as i still dont no what i am doing with the door a bought
So this comeing weekend i am collecting the bricks from colchester and on sunday i want to get the brickwork set out and a couple of courses down!
So hopefully it should start to move along a bit quicker now!
Roll on the longer days!
Anyway some pics!

My latest ebay buy!
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Almost in!
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Sorted! (Had to take pic this morn as i didnt finish till 730 sun lol)
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BANK HOLIDAY UPDATE

so we are now at the preset dayish lol i had a busy bank holiday planned so i had to geta list going

the garage has been set out with a couple of courses
dug out and layed small shed base
got most of the new shed up
bumped 1220 bricks :(
and a couple of other bits

dont sound much but with along with a trip to a dog show and two meals with parents its been a busy weekend lol

i plan to get the small shed nearly finished this weekend coming and a course of engineering bricks befor damp

anyway some pics!

got the first course set out near bang on!
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was pretty happy so put another cousre on
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then i dug out for the small shed base
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then used the old fence posts as ********!
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then layed some slabs other the top for a nice level base, they are all odd ones that ive had stood about so it cost me sweet fa to do it lol
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sorted
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then onto the frame
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i am chuffed so far with the shed
just need to finish the roof, clad it, hang door then fill it with sh*t:lol:

i also braced the gate
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and sorted the bricks out
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i also gave the RS and my misses new clio a goin over as it was sunny
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needs a few swrils got rid of but the reflection is good:argie:
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so there u go, i hope my first post was a good start
i will have this weeks update tommorow!

comment welcome
ollie
 

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Great progress so far, it's so satisfying to be able to stand back and look at what you have done by yourself - a real spence of achievement.

Love the RS too, looks a real nice example.
 
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Great progress so far, it's so satisfying to be able to stand back and look at what you have done by yourself - a real spence of achievement.

Love the RS too, looks a real nice example.

It certainly dose, i am most chuffed with the fence atm but cant wait to get the brickwork started

And the RS aint doin to bad considering shs 10 years old now
 

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I have been following your progress on your thread over on detailingworld but its much nicer to see it all together like this, it just shows how much you have done so far.
 
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Very cute. Is your place fully fenced? Can't believe your beagle doesn't bolt following a scent as most hounds do.
 

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Nice work there. I might have missed it, but what is the size?

Are you putting insulation under the floor?

Good to see another UK build :)

Edited to add: Doh! Size is in the titte!
 
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I am really enjoying your thread. I also saw it on the UK "detailing world". You have a very nice home and garden (US would be "backyard" or simply "yard") For what it's worth, the American term "yard" was adopted from the "yard of concrete" that was poured behind UK buildings in time past, just a tad of history on that. We still call ours our yard.
You have already done wonders with your place. I will be following you and seeing the rise of the new building. Good luck and thanks for posting here on GJ.
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Very cute. Is your place fully fenced? Can't believe your beagle doesn't bolt following a scent as most hounds do.

u must not have seen the fenceing photos?!:D

Nice work there. I might have missed it, but what is the size?

Are you putting insulation under the floor?

Good to see another UK build :)

Edited to add: Doh! Size is in the titte!

i hadent actually thought of insulation for the floor do your think it is gona be worth some?

Nice work, looking forward to seing it progress..

and another UK Garage is nice to see :D

Nice RS to - ST Man myself :thumbup:

thanks i will try to keep it up

I am really enjoying your thread. I also saw it on the UK "detailing world". You have a very nice home and garden (US would be "backyard" or simply "yard") For what it's worth, the American term "yard" was adopted from the "yard of concrete" that was poured behind UK buildings in time past, just a tad of history on that. We still call ours our yard.
You have already done wonders with your place. I will be following you and seeing the rise of the new building. Good luck and thanks for posting here on GJ.
Cheers

thanks alot
i have herd the term yard and have always thought you still used it. i wish i new were garden came from lol

thanks again for all your kind comments
 

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If you are going to spend time in there, you cant have too much insulation, under the slab and everywhere else. Will be a better enviroment for you car too. Its england after all!

Plenty of posts on here on the subject. plenty of experience too!
 

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Very nice thread...
Love your backyard. Please keep posting with all details.

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UPDATE

small weekend update here
basicly i got the small shed nearly finished
got the eng course on so ive got the height to dig the pit
cleared a load of soil from the pile

this weekend will be focusing on digging the pit and getting the floor of it concreted
hanging a door on the shed and filling it with the stuff out of the green house
then taking the green house down:D

along with a list that keeps getting longer of little jobs lol

anyway some pics

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thanks very much

i have started to fill the new shed with the stuff out of the green house so that can be taken down then lots of digging on saturday:(
 

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Great build, I'll be following along, if only to see the differences in construction techniques!

I was surprised to see that you only dug a shallow trench and poured your footings directly onto the earth. Here code requires at least a 4 foot deep trench to prevent the frost from heaving the footings and making the building dance! I am assuming you don't have to deal with frost in the ground.
 

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subscribed ! I have many photos of various sheds and garages from my trips to England. Love the different materials you use over there.
 

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Great build, I'll be following along, if only to see the differences in construction techniques!

I was surprised to see that you only dug a shallow trench and poured your footings directly onto the earth. Here code requires at least a 4 foot deep trench to prevent the frost from heaving the footings and making the building dance! I am assuming you don't have to deal with frost in the ground.

not to the extent i'd imagine you would have in Canada.. we like things mild, not too hot not too cold haha... and if it snows, the country grinds to a halt lol! :yikes:
 

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LooKing good.

I know you are doing this under permitted development but I presume building control are involved?

It is likely that they will require 75mm of underslab insulation. It used to be 50mm but regs/standards have changed. I have 2" of Cellecta under mine & am really pleased with the performance. Before it gt enclosed, the slab would absorb all the suns rays & then give off the heat for quite some time afterwards.

If you don't put anything in, the slab will act as a big heatsink & just transfer it from the garage & whatever you are using to get some heat in there & stick it straight back in the ground.

You need something with a high compressive strength that won't collapse as soon as you drive over it.
 
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Great build, I'll be following along, if only to see the differences in construction techniques!

I was surprised to see that you only dug a shallow trench and poured your footings directly onto the earth. Here code requires at least a 4 foot deep trench to prevent the frost from heaving the footings and making the building dance! I am assuming you don't have to deal with frost in the ground.

As said ground frost isent that much ofa issue as it dosent drop much below -5c here really and a 450 trench is pretting standard over here for garages, conservetories etc
LooKing good.

I know you are doing this under permitted development but I presume building control are involved?

It is likely that they will require 75mm of underslab insulation. It used to be 50mm but regs/standards have changed. I have 2" of Cellecta under mine & am really pleased with the performance. Before it gt enclosed, the slab would absorb all the suns rays & then give off the heat for quite some time afterwards.

If you don't put anything in, the slab will act as a big heatsink & just transfer it from the garage & whatever you are using to get some heat in there & stick it straight back in the ground.

You need something with a high compressive strength that won't collapse as soon as you drive over it.


Have have spoken to the localbuilding control and they saidd the only thing i really need to make them happy is the electric install is done by a approved sparky
I might double check though!
 

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Damn, looks like you have done lots of work so far!! Definitely well detailed in pictures. Keep your eye on the goal and keep going. Looking great so far!
 

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LooKing good.

I know you are doing this under permitted development but I presume building control are involved?

It is likely that they will require 75mm of underslab insulation. It used to be 50mm but regs/standards have changed. I have 2" of Cellecta under mine & am really pleased with the performance. Before it gt enclosed, the slab would absorb all the suns rays & then give off the heat for quite some time afterwards.

If you don't put anything in, the slab will act as a big heatsink & just transfer it from the garage & whatever you are using to get some heat in there & stick it straight back in the ground.

You need something with a high compressive strength that won't collapse as soon as you drive over it.

Building control wont normally need to be involved if it is an outbuilding under 30sqm.
 

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RSOllie you are going on just fine, at the start of the thread I wanted to come down and help you out :willy_nil but I think your other half is doing just fine :rocker: I'm a bit worried about you not treating your new gates for so long, I know up here int north they would have bin growing like :fawk:
"Great" build hope to keep up with you as it progresses.
 
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