My Six Month Garage Build - It's DONE! (In Pics)

ptgb · Apr 10, 2013

Embarked on a project I have wanted to do for 10 years.

Had to do a 24'x32' as that is the largest zoning will allow. Found a great builder who had it built in 4 days and another week to concrete.

The building itself was finished in early November. Concrete sealed and ready to finish the inside.

Still to do:

- alarm system
- paint the exterior
- air conditioner
- glass block windows
- motorcycle lift table. Probably going to get a Handielift in the Fall. Next spring, the plan is to have someone come in and cut the floor to inset the lift in the concrete so it will be flush with the floor.

Had a ball doing this from planning to where it is today. The bank account hurts, but that will be back soon. All in all, I would do it all over again in a second!

colt zantop · Apr 10, 2013

Very nice build!

cool50 · Apr 10, 2013

Super nice keep us posted on.....................ANYTHING!!!! :eyecrazy:

munepit · Apr 10, 2013

Nice work! I love it!!!

ADSR · Apr 10, 2013

Damn clean build I must say!

Well done, buddy!

JCQuick · Apr 10, 2013

Dang tons of cool pics but no Details what size is it, just to start with

Joevano · Apr 10, 2013

Loving it, especially the Valks!

Please tell how you made the countertops. Are the 1x's just glued on the 2x's?

ptgb · Apr 10, 2013

Joevano said:
Loving it, especially the Valks!

Please tell how you made the countertops. Are the 1x's just glued on the 2x's?

A local hardwood supplier had 3/4" solid maple, tongue & groove flooring on closeout. I got it for $3/sqft. Glued them together. Clamped overnight.

At first, I just layed it on 1/2" OSB, but I thought it was too thin... wanted a more "beefy" look, so I put 2x10 between the OSB and the maple. Left everything long until it was all assembled, then cut the ends/angles.

ptgb · Apr 10, 2013

JCQuick said:
Dang tons of cool pics but no Details what size is it, just to start with

As to the lack of information in the original post, it didn't allow me enough characters to give full descriptions. I just figured if anyone had a specific question as to something I did that you see in one of the photos... just ask. I will do my best to answer.

Sorry about the lack of the most basic info... should have put that. I did edit the original post.

24'x32'

CNGsaves · Apr 10, 2013

Wow, that was quick build.

However . . . . WHAT do you call that kind of Build ??

Is it stubby POLE BARN hybrid somehow, with stick walls added after??

Some kind of "Floating Building" that slab is added later??

Please explain as it's quite unique.

ptgb · Apr 10, 2013

CNGsaves said:
Wow, that was quick build.

However . . . . WHAT do you call that kind of Build ??

Is it stubby POLE BARN hybrid somehow, with stick walls added after??

Some kind of "Floating Building" that slab is added later??

Please explain as it's quite unique.

It is common around here, exactly as you said... a "hybrid pole barn". They sink 4x4 post below the frost line (48" here) and add concrete in the holes. Attach 2x10s to each side of the posts, then cut the post off. Add a 2x8 on top of the posts/2x10s and then stick build off of that.

The concrete is poured after, using the sill as forms. They had to add 2x10s in the front area, on the sides. 4"-6" of fill in the back of the garage, 18" in the front to level out the floor.

The builder offers a 50 year warranty on the foundation; not that either he or I will be here in 50 years :lol:

EMC2 · Apr 11, 2013

I really like the cabinets and counter tops. Quality work.

tornadocaster · Apr 11, 2013

Subscribed.
Looks great. I'm going to try that hybrid system on a big shed this summer.
Great job and don't think I didn't notice the little beverage cabinet left of the four drawers.
Cheers
Gio

RSOllie · Apr 11, 2013

I love that workbench area!!
Awasome!

kyle@hcb · Apr 11, 2013

Looks great!

dubber · Apr 11, 2013

Amazing quality workmanship. Well done sir. Love the overall look as well.

HOWSER · Apr 11, 2013

Looks great! What's the story with the upper cabinets? I really like them.

ptgb · Apr 11, 2013

HOWSER said:
Looks great! What's the story with the upper cabinets? I really like them.

I found an ad on Craigslist near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania (bout 250 miles from me) featuring the wooden cabinets for sale. It was a laboratory furniture supply company. Talked to the guy who said they were trying to get rid of the last of some wooden lab cabinets that have been sitting in the warehouse for awhile. I bought them just from the picture. I got them for a steal at about $40 each (the wooden ones).

When I went to pick them up, I asked if he had any other wooden wall cabinets other than the two sets (now on the left work area in my garage). He said he didn't, but that they had a program a few years ago where they were "stocking" metal cabinets in the warehouse. It really didn't take-off so now he had about 10 or so in the back of the warehouse collecting dust. I asked him a price. He quoted $295 list price, but was willing to deal. I offered $400 for 3 of them, which he accepted ($133 each). I drove out with a 6x10 trailer loaded out with wooden cabinets and the 3 metal wall cabinets (with mounting brackets) in the truck bed and back seat for less than $1K.

Very happy with the cabinets. The metal ones are probably 14 gauge steel with high quality slides, etc. The wooden ones have solid wood frames and the laminated plywood is first rate stuff. These things were built to last.

scottzilla · Apr 11, 2013

very cool. :rocker:

Kevin54 · Apr 11, 2013

I'm like CNG....I've never seen a build like that until yours. Interesting. I'm thinking of adding a bumpout to my garage and I may do it that way so I don't have to wait on concrete to build. You lost me though with the 2" x 8" on top. Does he rip the 2 x 8 down, or does he let it overhang slightly? I ask because a 4 x 4 with a 2x on each side equals 6" and a 2x8 equals 7 1/2" wide, so there is a 1 1/2" difference.

Also is the concrete going under the side boards or are the inside boards used as the form? I guess what I am trying to say or ask, is there hollow spots under the sill? How far apart does he have the 4 x 4's?

Do you have any other pics to post up of the build. Like I said, I've never saw a building like that done around this area of Ohio or anywhere for that matter.

It looks great though. I like how you have things laid out. :thumbup:

Also, what lights do you have in there? With all of the reflection, you can't make out what they are. And how many are there in the ceiling? It doesn't look like you are lacking any light for certain.

MacTexas · Apr 11, 2013

Beautiful garage. I have never seen glass front cabinets in a garage before. What kind of paint did you use on the walls, semigloss?

Trey T · Apr 11, 2013

awesome. I like it. Any current photo of exterior and surrounding?

ptgb · Apr 11, 2013

kevin54 said:
i'm like cng....i've never seen a build like that until yours. Interesting. I'm thinking of adding a bumpout to my garage and i may do it that way so i don't have to wait on concrete to build. You lost me though with the 2" x 8" on top. Does he rip the 2 x 8 down, or does he let it overhang slightly? I ask because a 4 x 4 with a 2x on each side equals 6" and a 2x8 equals 7 1/2" wide, so there is a 1 1/2" difference.

Yes, there is a slight overhang on each side of the top sill board. I would estimate it 1/2"-3/4"

kevin54 said:
also is the concrete going under the side boards or are the inside boards used as the form? I guess what i am trying to say or ask, is there hollow spots under the sill? How far apart does he have the 4 x 4's?

Yes it is hollow under the sill. I believe the 4x4 were placed 6' OC, or something close to that. The inside boards are used as the concrete form. The fill was brought up to the bottom of the sill, or a tad higher. No concrete is under the sill.

kevin54 said:
do you have any other pics to post up of the build. Like i said, i've never saw a building like that done around this area of ohio or anywhere for that matter.

Sorry, that's about all I have especially of the foundation and the way they built it. I know of at least 3 or 4 garage builders just in my two county area in NE Ohio (Mahoning and Trumbull) that build them that way.

kevin54 said:
also, what lights do you have in there? With all of the reflection, you can't make out what they are. And how many are there in the ceiling? It doesn't look like you are lacking any light for certain.

Right now the lights are simply 200W bulbs on 16 fixtures. 8 center ones are on one switch, 8 outer on another switch. I plan on replacing these with 300W equivalent CFLs (105W) in the very near future.

ptgb · Apr 11, 2013

MacTexas said:
Beautiful garage. I have never seen glass front cabinets in a garage before. What kind of paint did you use on the walls, semigloss?

The painting was two coats of Glidden Gripper primer (almost 10 gallons), and then 5 gallons of Glidden Premium Exterior paint, "white on white", satin finish (to avoid showing wall imperfections). Same primer and paint on the ceiling.

Both paint and primer was applied with an airless sprayer and back-rolled.

ptgb · Apr 11, 2013

Trey T said:
awesome. I like it. Any current photo of exterior and surrounding?

This is pretty much where she still stands, exterior-wise.

In the next month, we will be painting the exterior and starting to landscape around the building. Also adding a walkway to the garage from the back patio and rear of the attached garage.

Kevin54 · Apr 11, 2013

Just to let you know....I saved all of your pics to a folder. I find that it is a unique build. If I get a chance to add onto my garage, I just may go the route that you went. Impressive to say the least.

The company that you used, do they have a website, or the other companies that use the same method?

BTW...welcome to Garage Journal. If you get in a bind with garage questions, this is the place to be. This is the Garage version of the Encyclopedia of Britannica. :rocker:

patent pending · Apr 11, 2013

nice work...really like those glass front cabinets..and pretty much everything else too!

Funny seeing the severe weather report for Columbiana County going across the TV in one of the pics. My wife is from East Liverpool....her dad always says..."its cold but wet" :lol_hitti

I do love it up there in the Summer though!

woodbutch · Apr 11, 2013

That post frame stem wall or what ever you would call it caught my attention also. It looks like a great way to speed up the framing and interior finish. There is probably is some kind of anchor from framed wall to slab. Looks like you could pour slab before framing to make it easier (framing & slab).

skulldrinker · Apr 12, 2013

It looks like a small heater. What size is it? Does it keep up? At least you got insulation to help. Did you insulate the attic?

Megadodo · Apr 12, 2013

Superb build, well done. I really like the bench set-up, very neat and and tidy.

BeachBoy · Apr 12, 2013

that's a fast build!

Here we don't really see people pouring the slab after the shell is done, also painting over wood is something we don't see (everyone has fire retardant sheetrock. It looks much faster and sturdier to have big nice wood planks for the walls!! You can hang anything anywhere!

Rockuf8 · Apr 12, 2013

Beautiful garage, love all the finishing touches.

ptgb · Apr 12, 2013

skulldrinker said:
It looks like a small heater. What size is it? Does it keep up? At least you got insulation to help. Did you insulate the attic?

It is a Beacon Morris 45,000 BTU from Menards. Originally bought a 75,000 BTU, but took the advice of many on here that the 75K was too big for 768 sqft. Didn't want short cycling, etc. so I took it back and got the 45K.

I have been in there with a starting temperature in the teens and it brings it up to the high 50's (where I have it set) in only a few minutes and only runs about every 20-30 minutes. Heats the space with no problems whatsoever.

The walls are R13 and the ceiling is not insulated yet, but soon will be... blown in R38.

ptgb · Apr 12, 2013

BeachBoy said:
that's a fast build!

Here we don't really see people pouring the slab after the shell is done, also painting over wood is something we don't see (everyone has fire retardant sheetrock. It looks much faster and sturdier to have big nice wood planks for the walls!! You can hang anything anywhere!

Specifically wanted plywood walls just for that purpose... hang stuff pretty much wherever I wanted. I used 3/4" tongue and groove subfloor (Menards Sturdi-Floor). For the heavy stuff like the metal wall cabinets and the flat screen TV mount, I still mounted those into studs, but everything else is in the walls.

ptgb · Apr 12, 2013

As to the quick build of only 4 days. That did not include the excavation of the area, etc. The area it was built has a slight slope and the neighborhood behind is higher and it front is lower, so I specifically had it excavated shallow in the back so the building would end up with the rear at grade and the front was "up" above grade (18" out of the ground). I did this to avoid water issues. I do have drain pipe at the rear and uphill side of the building to try and avoid water issues.

When I chose my builder, that was one of the criteria on the list, that the build be accomplished without breaks. In other words, I didn't want one day of work and then them not showing up for 4 or 5 days until they worked again. I was given a few addresses and phone numbers for other people that he built garages for and actually contacted these folks and went and looked at their buildings. Everyone said he did builds in a timely fashion. I was adamant that I wanted it done, barring weather issues, without days in between construction days. He listened and they started on a Monday and had it done Thursday with a crew of 3 to 5 people there everyday.

I could not have been happier with my builder, from start to finish.

skulldrinker · Apr 12, 2013

ptgb said:
It is a Beacon Morris 45,000 BTU from Menards. Originally bought a 75,000 BTU, but took the advice of many on here that the 75K was too big for 768 sqft. Didn't want short cycling, etc. so I took it back and got the 45K.

I have been in there with a starting temperature in the teens and it brings it up to the high 50's (where I have it set) in only a few minutes and only runs about every 20-30 minutes. Heats the space with no problems whatsoever.

The walls are R13 and the ceiling is not insulated yet, but soon will be... blown in R38.

When I set mine to 70° it obvious it goes on and off alot but I think it's because I just have drywall and no insulation. I'm still glad i got my 75K. Mine space is only 22X24.

BC1 · Apr 12, 2013

Awesome build! I think you made up my mind on putting a t.v. in my garage too. Everything looks great except for the big bang theory, I think it gives nerds unrealistic expectations.

HellaFab · Apr 12, 2013

Very nice build!

I like the cabinet build up.

Gave me a few ideas. ($$$$$$$$)

Kevin54 · Apr 12, 2013

skulldrinker said:
When I set mine to 70° it obvious it goes on and off alot but I think it's because I just have drywall and no insulation. I'm still glad i got my 75K. Mine space is only 22X24.

You really should give insulation a try. You'll be so surprised as to how much less your heater cycles on and off. I have a 45,000btu in my 28' x 36' garage and it will stay around 55 degrees on most days when I first go out there. When I do go out, I'll kick it up to around 68 degrees. I have R13 in the walls and R30 in the attic. Once you put insulation in, your payback should be one or two seasons.

BC1 said:
Awesome build! I think you made up my mind on putting a t.v. in my garage too. Everything looks great except for the big bang theory, I think it gives nerds unrealistic expectations.

The Big Bang Theory is a hoot :lol:

I'm still impressed about the garage with the way they built it. I've talked to a couple of buddies, and they never heard of building one that way either.

Kevin54 · Apr 12, 2013

PTGB....if you don't mind me bugging you again, what is the name of the company that built your garage? Also if you wouldn't mind me asking, can you give a ballpark figure as to what it cost you for the building that size? Just for the building itself minus all of the interior work that you did?

I really want to add on to my garage and with a foundation like that, I think the wife and I could handle some of it. If I add on, I may not be able to afford a floor this year, but I could still have the building put up.

One other thing that comes to mind.....I wonder why they didn't leave the 4x's at the full length? I would think they could have incorporated the 4x's into the walls. I imagine they have their reasons though. Maybe the 4x's twisting :dunno:

At least with the way they did it, you shouldn't have to worry about any critter infiltration

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