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The "1 year warranty" and the $21 for shipping kills it for me. Not that I need any more torque wrenches anyway. Curious also how they would warranty something that's on closeout. Will they hold a few back for replacement or what ?
 

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I just stumbled across something interesting on eBay.

Jetco, a torque wrench manufacturer is selling some new closeout torque wrenches on ebay. They're assembled in the USA.

Jetco has an outdated website and catalog, but here's more info:
http://www.itorque.com/

Here's the eBay store:
http://stores.ebay.com/itorque?_rdc=1

They say the torque wrenches are on closeout:


I thought these looked like SK torque wrenches, and sure enough - they are!
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002L5TDGE/?tag=atomicindus08-20

I guess when the old SK folded and was bought by Ideal, Jetco was stuck with these wrenches and is now closing them out.

The old SK had always bought torque wrenches and had their name put on them. The new SK is in the middle of buying a torque wrench product line so they can make thier own in the near future.
 

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Can anyone comment on the quality of these? I am in the market for a new in-lbs wrench and was going to buy a Proto that was on sale near me, but this would cost me less than half of that.
 

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good deal if you are in the market for a torque wrench. 1 yr warranty is pretty standard
 

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Why? The total price is $68. That seems pretty good for what apparently is a name-brand torque wrench.
In reference to $21 for shipping... Oh hell I don't know, call it having "principals"... If a company or an Ebay seller is intentionally screwing people with grossly inflated shipping charges what other scumbag tactics do they employ ? It's my money and I choose not to spend it with dirtbags. How's that for a reason ? :thumbup:
 

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In reference to $21 for shipping... Oh hell I don't know, call it having "principals"... If a company or an Ebay seller is intentionally screwing people with grossly inflated shipping charges what other scumbag tactics do they employ ? It's my money and I choose not to spend it with dirtbags. How's that for a reason ? :thumbup:

Technically, it is "Shipping & Handling" not just direct shipping carrier charges.

I know it is lost on some and not everybody differentiate the two but some actually charge fees for handling and packaging of the product.

If they are like any other precision instrument company, they are packaging well and not just throwing it in a flat rate USPS box and calling it a day.
 

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In reference to $21 for shipping... Oh hell I don't know, call it having "principals"... If a company or an Ebay seller is intentionally screwing people with grossly inflated shipping charges what other scumbag tactics do they employ ? It's my money and I choose not to spend it with dirtbags. How's that for a reason ? :thumbup:


how is that for a reason? a little (okay a lot) over the top. you may think 21 dollars is extreme. it may be a little high but it would be an odd sized box, it would require a fair amount of packing to protect it and it may have tracking. add those all together and maybe it isn't so bad. i am sure post office flat rate is well in excess of 10 bucks.

to call someone a dirtbag and scumbag when you have never dealt with them seems kind of unreasonable.

if you bought a 2-300 dollar tool from them (a more normal price) would 21 be too much? seems like you expect them to discount shipping as well as initial cost when in reality the cost to ship doesn't change just because the tool price is reduced.

but, maybe i am missing something.:dunno:
 
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In reference to $21 for shipping... Oh hell I don't know, call it having "principals"... If a company or an Ebay seller is intentionally screwing people with grossly inflated shipping charges what other scumbag tactics do they employ ? It's my money and I choose not to spend it with dirtbags. How's that for a reason ? :thumbup:



Who cares what the shipping charges are? It's the total price delivered to your door that matters- which they clearly state in the listing. How does that make them a scumbag? Maybe you prefer they raise the price of the product by $18 and then offer you free shipping? Would that make them a good guy in your eyes? Net price is the same either way, but of course, YMMV.
 

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In reference to $21 for shipping... Oh hell I don't know, call it having "principals"... If a company or an Ebay seller is intentionally screwing people with grossly inflated shipping charges what other scumbag tactics do they employ ? It's my money and I choose not to spend it with dirtbags. How's that for a reason ? :thumbup:

They are charging me $16. I went to UPS.com, selected ground shipping and entered my ZIP and theirs. Estimated the weight of a wrench at 4 lbs. UPS tells me shipping will be $19.

I'm not saying UPS prices don't ****, but I doubt Jetco is screwing anybody here.
 

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Dang... $65 shipped for a 3/8 250in-lbs....Unfortunately that makes it inaccurate at the 2-3 ft-lbs I need to do Subaru timing belts....Might still get it though :)
 

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I think $70 is still a pretty good deal. Last week I picked up the 3 torque wrenches from lowes all made in Taiwain. These ebay ones came up right after I bought the lowes version otherwise I would've at least bought the 1/2" 250ft-lb., still might get the in-lb one. :thumbup:
 

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Technically, it is "Shipping & Handling" not just direct shipping carrier charges.

I know it is lost on some and not everybody differentiate the two but some actually charge fees for handling and packaging of the product.

If they are like any other precision instrument company, they are packaging well and not just throwing it in a flat rate USPS box and calling it a day.

Correct... :beer: There are other costs factored into Getting a Product ready prior to handling it off to the Shipper. Obviously Everyone wants Dirt Cheap Prices and free shipping to boot, Its the World we live in.. I suspect we are all guilty of falling in love with the Amazon "Free Super Saving Shipper items" etc.. I wonder if the Same people who are bitching about the S+H Price would be complaining if there Item arrived Loose in a Box with No packing? I try to look at the Total Price, Remember it is a Precision Instrument. :dunno: Its why my Ebay listings always have Free Shipping, This way i weed out the Unreasonable and prevent my feedback stars from being reduced due to someone having NO IDEA what True shipping costs are for the average Joe.
 
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Looks like they're either sold out on the eBay store, or slow to replenish the listings. Only seem to have sold 7 or 8 since Stephen originally posted. And I think I'm a little glad they're charging $18 for shipping, assuming it goes into packing materials and care in delivery for a delicate instrument.
 

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Technically, it is "Shipping & Handling" not just direct shipping carrier charges.

I know it is lost on some and not everybody differentiate the two but some actually charge fees for handling and packaging of the product.

If they are like any other precision instrument company, they are packaging well and not just throwing it in a flat rate USPS box and calling it a day.
I do understand all that and maybe I was a bit harsh but nothing sets me off more than an Ebay seller who is trying to skim a little extra on every sale with inflated shipping. I do understand that this is a company, not an individual & therefore they have overhead. The guy who posted something about an odd size box I do dissagree with though. They are a manufacturer who claims to have a couple hundred of these to sell. I hope that poster isn't insinuating that the company dosn't have a ready supply of proper size boxes... Us little guys who sell one item now & then on Ebay do have a hard time sometimes coming up with odd size boxes but I really doubt that has any bearing on this. I suppose when you add it all up it is a good price but I would feel much better about it if they charged $5 or $10 more for the product and then charged actual shipping cost. Dosn't make a bit of difference to the bottom line but it would make them seem a little less like the TV telemarketers... "Call now and the second one is free.. jusy pay an additional $19.95 for shipping & handling".. Besides hootbro, shouldn't you be out swinging a metal detector or are you not the same guy I recognize from Treasure Net ? LoL
 

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how is it deceitful or digusting?

it is plain and simple this is the purchase price and this is the shipping. no lies, no hidden fees or misleading comments. as far as being set up to ship. this company probabaly sells very little product directly to the public and most of it in package deals of multiples directly to government, mfgrs, and tool companies(sk for one). i doubt they have a truck load of shipping boxes for single items to ship out

i don't know this company from the next and i doubt most here do. what truly is disgusting is that people who have never dealt with them are throwing them under the bus with not one stitch of first hand knowledge.

that is being deceitful.
 

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I do understand all that and maybe I was a bit harsh but nothing sets me off more than an Ebay seller who is trying to skim a little extra on every sale with inflated shipping. I do understand that this is a company, not an individual & therefore they have overhead. The guy who posted something about an odd size box I do dissagree with though. They are a manufacturer who claims to have a couple hundred of these to sell. I hope that poster isn't insinuating that the company dosn't have a ready supply of proper size boxes... Us little guys who sell one item now & then on Ebay do have a hard time sometimes coming up with odd size boxes but I really doubt that has any bearing on this. I suppose when you add it all up it is a good price but I would feel much better about it if they charged $5 or $10 more for the product and then charged actual shipping cost. Dosn't make a bit of difference to the bottom line but it would make them seem a little less like the TV telemarketers... "Call now and the second one is free.. jusy pay an additional $19.95 for shipping & handling".. Besides hootbro, shouldn't you be out swinging a metal detector or are you not the same guy I recognize from Treasure Net ? LoL

I understand where you are coming from. I also believe though that it really boils down to the consumer/buyer to be educated on what he paying overall and if it is of value to them.

I buy and sell a ton on Ebay also. Found shipping charges to be a something that you sometimes just cannot win as a seller. Small light stuff, I can do "free shipping" and factor it into the starting price. Heavy stuff and it goes out actual weight rate. Even when charging "actuals", I still get sniping comment of potential buyers that have not realized shipping rates regardless of carrier have gone up quite a bit the last 2-3 years.

As to swinging a metal detector and Treasure Net, you got the wrong guy. :drunk:
 

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I found out that ebay charges a higher "final value fee" on shipping than the item price. Always better to add the shipping to the cost of the item.
 

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If you don't like the shipping charge, then don't buy anything. Plain and simple.

thread like this make me miss the old GJ. Threads that actually reviewed a product, not cost about shipping charges.
 

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If you don't like the shipping charge, then don't buy anything. Plain and simple.

thread like this make me miss the old GJ. Threads that actually reviewed a product, not cost about shipping charges.

Offering my opinion on the shipping policies of this company. Isn't shipping cost something most folks consider when making a purchase ? Was that not allowed on the "old GJ" ?
 

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Correct... :beer: There are other costs factored into Getting a Product ready prior to handling it off to the Shipper. Obviously Everyone wants Dirt Cheap Prices and free shipping to boot, Its the World we live in.. I suspect we are all guilty of falling in love with the Amazon "Free Super Saving Shipper items" etc.. I wonder if the Same people who are bitching about the S+H Price would be complaining if there Item arrived Loose in a Box with No packing? I try to look at the Total Price, Remember it is a Precision Instrument. :dunno: Its why my Ebay listings always have Free Shipping, This way i weed out the Unreasonable and prevent my feedback stars from being reduced due to someone having NO IDEA what True shipping costs are for the average Joe.


i agree with the original shipping complaint. if i see an item that has a ridiculously high shipping cost, i'm not buying it now plain and simple. they are trying to get people to look at their product because it has an initially lower cost, before shipping.

take for example i had purchased a wire harness for a radio i had to put in another car. the wire harness came in an envelope, weighed next to nothing. and they charged 14 in shipping.... how do you get 14 in shipping for something that would cost 3 normally? because they want to make extra on top, unfortunately they were the only available seller at the time.



to me, a company that charges a high amount for shipping isn't spending an extra 15 dollars in time and materials to put the product in a box and print a label to go on it. operations that are set up to ship lots of items do so at a very reduced cost. i could box something up and pack it right for under 5 dollars. so how does a big company somehow go 3 times higher? they aren't just charging for shipping and handling, they are obviously charging for more. it's sad that a company using the whole "made in the usa" catch is doing it, but thats what we get nowadays isnt it.
 

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If you don't like the shipping charge, then don't buy anything. Plain and simple.

thread like this make me miss the old GJ. Threads that actually reviewed a product, not cost about shipping charges.

cost of a product plus the cost to get the product you are all things to be considered when reviewing something.

if the tool is only available in a foreign country, and it costs 50% of the initial cost of the tool to get it to you, it is a definite downside to the tool.
 

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i agree with the original shipping complaint. if i see an item that has a ridiculously high shipping cost, i'm not buying it now plain and simple. they are trying to get people to look at their product because it has an initially lower cost, before shipping.

take for example i had purchased a wire harness for a radio i had to put in another car. the wire harness came in an envelope, weighed next to nothing. and they charged 14 in shipping.... how do you get 14 in shipping for something that would cost 3 normally? because they want to make extra on top, unfortunately they were the only available seller at the time.



to me, a company that charges a high amount for shipping isn't spending an extra 15 dollars in time and materials to put the product in a box and print a label to go on it. operations that are set up to ship lots of items do so at a very reduced cost. i could box something up and pack it right for under 5 dollars. so how does a big company somehow go 3 times higher? they aren't just charging for shipping and handling, they are obviously charging for more. it's sad that a company using the whole "made in the usa" catch is doing it, but thats what we get nowadays isnt it.

I don't think anyone here is condoning shipping abuse, im sure we all have bought something from Ebay/retailer that had some exaggerated shipping costs. I'm not gonna speak out of turn in regards to what jetco's actual shipping charges are, I have no idea.. IMHO I don't feel what they are charging for a "UPS" from Cali to Me here in Mo is out of line. Again.. That's just my opinion based off what I'm seeing from the ad, everyone is entitled to opinion on what the shipping cost "should be".

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.......Always better to add the shipping to the cost of the item.

On smalls 13oz or stuff that can be stuffed in a flat rate box, you can combine shipping costs to an auction item. The problem is when you start getting into heavy stuff over 4+ pounds and not know where the final bidder/buyer lives can be a gamble on estimating shipping costs.
 

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I don't think anyone here is condoning shipping abuse, im sure we all have bought something from Ebay/retailer that had some exaggerated shipping costs. I'm not gonna speak out of turn in regards to what jetco's actual shipping charges are, I have no idea.. IMHO I don't feel what they are charging for a "UPS" from Cali to Me here in Mo is out of line. Again.. That's just my opinion based off what I'm seeing from the ad, everyone is entitled to opinion on what the shipping cost "should be".

:dunno:

this is true, and i base my opinion of shipping charges off of years of selling hundreds of parts off old project cars to places as far away as the UK and canada.

in state shipping , if not expressed, is cheap when done right, especially for a business. hell, the last time i shipped a transmission (r154 from a supra), it was only 55 to ship through ups to california.


On smalls 13oz or stuff that can be stuffed in a flat rate box, you can combine shipping costs to an auction item. The problem is when you start getting into heavy stuff over 4+ pounds and not know where the final bidder/buyer lives can be a gamble on estimating shipping costs.


this is absolutely true, and i use flat rate shipping charges all the time for people who don't want to hassle with special costs and exact costs and having to comunicate back and forth a couple of times if need be, when i list things on forums for sale i say X amount for flate rate, OR, calculate the shipping, send me the shipper (ups, fedex, or usps), and i will send it by the way you want. either or works, but the problem i have with sellers is when they calculate the cost from sandiego california to the farthest port in northeast Maine and expect everyone to pay it, even the guy down the street.
 
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I don't think anyone here is condoning shipping abuse, im sure we all have bought something from Ebay/retailer that had some exaggerated shipping costs. I'm not gonna speak out of turn in regards to what jetco's actual shipping charges are, I have no idea.. IMHO I don't feel what they are charging for a "UPS" from Cali to Me here in Mo is out of line. Again.. That's just my opinion based off what I'm seeing from the ad, everyone is entitled to opinion on what the shipping cost "should be".

:dunno:

Like I stated, they are charging me $3 less than what UPS quotes me. Assuming they get some kind of corporate discount, I would say that sounds pretty fair. Not even taking into account their cost of packing materials or time, or the 10% Ebay charges on it.
 

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Seems to me that when a warranty, or returns allowed is involved, the shipping costs go up, and the listing usually states "shipping costs not refundable". Sometimes I think the shipping cost is the sellers actual cost for the item. I do wonder why I find used car parts in the sellers feedback profile too.
 
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