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"The Judges Chambers" 20x20 build

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garagemahalpharoh

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Good day all, I have began the tedious job of building a man cave/workshop for my 1969 GTO and thought I would share the journey with you all in hopes of getting some useful feedback. I am going to call it "The Judge's Chambers". Here is a pic of what I will be parking in it:


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I already have a large attached garage on the house and decided I needed to have my own area out back to tinker in without having to worry about being in anyone's way. I am designing this area to be user friendly to make the most use out of what little space there is. With our town's bylaws the largest footprint I could make was 20x20. I did however get an annex to make it oversized in the height department. Normally the garage's are limited to a 14' overall height but I was able to get a relaxation to make this 16' 9", which will give me lots of room for cold storage as well as 10' walls.

My intention with this is to make all items that touch the floor able to roll so I can position them easily. If I am working of my car I want to be able to roll the bench close by to aid in time management. Anyhow I will show you how the journey has progressed so far. If you have any comments please feel free to make them as I appreciate all the knowledge that is shared on this forum.

Here is the pad which I had poured 1 year ago, it should have had lot's of time to settle by now?



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I have exposed aggregate concrete for a driveway and decided I would make the entrance to the Chambers with the same look. I also had a 14' round firepit area poured at the same time as the pad for garage and hottub.


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I had all the lumber delivered, and seeing as I am going to make a cold storage area I ordered attic trusses :rocker:


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I will keep you posted on the details as they unfold, stay tuned.
 
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Thank you, I love the old school muscle. The tuner kids don't give these cars the respect they deserve, that is until the light turns green :rocker::) then the respect is given lol.

Here is some more pics of the build:


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Have to love all the room there is going to be for storage.


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Going to install an 8x16 door to give lot's of room for entry as it is a back alley access.


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Siding is going on very well, looking better and better.


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I really wanted to have an external access, similar to a barn loft, but was unable to have one sourced or built by the time contractor had the Gable done.


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I've always liked alleys behind houses. Makes the backyard accessible for projects like yours. They were originally used, in horse and buggy days, to give deliverymen access to the back of the house and also keep the stable close to the delivery point for feed and the pickup of both household and stable waste.
 
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Thanks for the kind words fellows, the yard is coming along nicely. We had the house built last year and the landscaping and what not seem to take forever when we are doing everything we can ourselves. Here is some more pics of the build so far:

I thought about putting in an attic access ladder that was built in and easily accessable. After opeing it and seeing how it was made (POS) I determined I better not install that as I would be stuck with it forever. I decided I would go with the trusty old Aluminum ladder for safety reasons.


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The floor of the attic looks awesome. 3/4" tongue and groove OSB.


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The area is going work very well for storage, 160 square feet with a height of 5'7". this will work very well with keeping all the seasonal items stored. The attic trusses were definately the way to go.


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I decided I would store the extra pieces of siding and what not up top in case in the future I have to change any out. Will be way easier to keep track of where they are if needed.


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Making some great progress on the chambers in the last few days. I have decided to do all the electrical myself. Since there is so much valuable information here and I have my best resource available (google), and a member here named Teken I am confident in getting it done.

I decided I would put some insulation behind the breaker box as I dont think I can get any pink fiberglass insulation behind there that will do any good.


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I figured I might as well put some behind the switchs as well.


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Junction boxes for the track lighting that should be able to light up under the hood of DE GOAT well enough that I won't need a trouble light.



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Trying to keep them all in order:


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I left lots of wire to wire in the fluorescent fixtures I hope? I am going to do 4 banks of lights. 3 of them will be 8" fluorescents back to back and the 4 bank will have 1 8' fluorescent and 2 4' sections of track lighting that I am going to mount 8' up the wall so I can situate where I want the light to shine under the hoods of whatever vehicle I am working on. There will be no shadows :thumbup:


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I even managed to remember to run sensor wires for the door opener:


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Starting to come together:


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Not sure what I will need a 30A 220V for down the road so I decided now is the time to install a junction box in case I do need it. I boxed it in and strung the wire into the breaker box for the time being.


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Thanks fellas, here are some more pics of the electrical. Let me know if you see anything that looks like it is done incorrectly as far as Canadian code goes.


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I made good use of what I learnt on here as far as tagging the wires to keep track before the cover is on.


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After quite a bit of research on insulating and drywalling I decided I better quite procrastinating and I might as well get started as I had the overhead door booked to be installed and didn't want to have to drywall behind installation.


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Vapor barrier worked out very well.


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I've never seen anyone put door and window headers on top of the cripple studs under the top plate... generally they go directly over the door/window opening. What's the reasoning there?
 
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That is a very good question Zrexxer, I had the framing siding and shingling done by a contractor as I have no idea where to begin with it. Do you think this is going to be a problem down the road for me?
 
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Well after hearing all the horror stories everyone I talked to that had ever drywalled without a lift I decided to bite the bullet and get one, best money I have ever spent. This is the only way to handle 12' pieces of drywall when you are working alone.


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I had a real tight deadline with very little time to achieve it for the installation of the overhead door so I decided I better get the bare minimum done.


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Turns out I had planned it just right :beer: no room to spare but it will do.


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Even managed to put the electrical wires in the correct position.



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I am extremely happy with the install, Red Deer Overdoor does a great job and their pricing leads the pack in my opinion. Well this is all that I will be able to update you guys on for awhile as now that the Chambers is secure I am going to finish packing and I am getting on a bird in the morning headed to Europe for a much needed vacation. I will update you on the progress in October as I will not be back to make any progress till then.
 
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It has been awhile since I put any updates on this great forum so I thought I better quite procrastinating and just do it. Here is what I have done since the last post. I finally got the drywall finished and got the mudding and taping completed. Let me tell you this is definately an art. It takes alot of patience and elbow grease to get the job done correctly.



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Thanks, it has been a definate learning experience. I got so carried away with the texture and paint I didnt get a pile of pictures. I did a complete drop texture roof to floor. Then painted a base coat in a nickel color. I think it worked out awesome. I did find out I better get the heater installed to speed things up so got it mounted. It doesent take long for it to warm this small area up :):)


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This is a 50,000 btu mr. heater.

I also took the time to mount my extension cord reel to the ceiling since I had the ladder and tools out. This will be extremely handy I am sure.


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I decided this place needed something to make it pop after seeing all the neat spaces on this forum. I chose a color that was as close to the color of my car I could find. I then complimented it with a stripe to match the pin stripe on the Judge.



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It should look pretty sweet parked inside its new home, can't wait to get this project completed.
 
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I've got the exact same cord reel mounted on the roof in my garage. It comes in handy all the time. I really like the heater you chose. I have a 10' long Propane heater that heats the place up fast, but it does take away from useable wall space for shelving/cabinets. I know I commented on your nice goat a few months ago, but... nice goat!

What are your plans for flooring ? I chose RaceDeck in mine and am very happy with it. Mine is 20x20 but attached and the master bedroom is right above, so the old lady gets upset when I am in there making noise and toxic fumes, which is a common occurance. I wish I had the space to build a detached. You'll love that space.
 
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Thanks for the kind comments, I also have an attached 24x26 garage and really wanted a detached for that exact reason to keep the wifey from hearing what is happening. I thought about using race deck but with this garage I want anything that touchs the floor to have castors on it, including the car. That way I will be able to move things around easily to accomodate whatever I am working on. I was worried that a floor covering might make moving a vehicle around a chore.

I chose to use an environmentally friendly water based product called eco-stain. I am hoping it will turn out the way I have envisioned.
 
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I did get all the lighting done, and am very pleased with how it turned out. I chose to do 4 different circuits so I would be able to save some power if not needed.


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You need to put sun glasses on in this place now :rocker:

I decided I would put track lighting on the end wall so I could put spot lights shining under the hood to cut down on any shadows. I am hoping my idea works out? They are on the same circuit as the single 8' fixture.


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I mounted my air hose reel on the ceiling as well. Since I installed the air compressor in the attic. It will definately free up some floor space having it there. I put a seperate circuit for the receptacles in the attic, complete with a switch, to control when the compressor needs to be turned on.


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Thanks, it has definately been worth the effort. I got started on the floor. It took quite awhile to clean all the drywall mud off the floor. That seems to be the worse part of the whole process.

Since I chose to use an environmentally friendly stain made by sure crete I followed the advice of the vendor and used Sure cretes cleaner.


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It definately cleaned and prepped the floor nicely.I had to have my right hand man giving me some help.


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Here is the product in Navy Blue color.


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A few of the tools I was going to use to apply it. I tried the larger yard sprayer and it didn't really do what I had expected. I found the smaller hand bottle to be more precise and effective in applying it where I wanted it. I followed the advice of the vendor and mixed the first half gallon with half gallon of water for the primary application. In hindsight I wouldn't do that again, this seems IMO that it needs to be applied at full concentrate.


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Here is a pic showing what the initial gallon looks like. I am now waiting for a second gallon to come in.


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When it is completed I am confident it will give me the effect I desire in here.
 
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Well I finally got the floor completed, and it turned out really well. One thing I did learn from the eco-stain, if it says 1 gallon will work, buy 3. It ended up taking me 3 gallons to get the effect I was looking for but it was totally worth it.

Here is a shot just after getting the stain applied:


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This is after applying the sealant:


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I had an old bench at work I decided to fix up. I put decals on the top of it then covered it in a clear endura coat for protection. The whole plan is to have anything that touchs the floor on castors so I can move it around as needed and for ease of cleaning.


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Now to install the drill press and vise, a must have for every shop IMHO.


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Found some nice cabinets for a great price so installed castors on them as well. Its starting to come together now :rocker:


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Will keep you updated on the progress. I am getting excited to finally get to put this place to use.
 
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It is not a dumb question at all. No the floor isnt slippery at all. I used a semi gloss sealer for that exact reason. That was one of the worries I had mentioned to my supplier and he assured me this would be the way to go, he was right. I wanted a high gloss but was more worried about it being safe than looking spectacular.
 
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Yeah that's a sweet build buddy.

Good idea to put a 220v in there, shame the guy who built mine didn't future proof it.
 
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