Snap On Wrench from back in the day with no Logo!

3baygarage · Oct 25, 2013

Thought some people might find it interesting. I bought this a couple years ago from a flea market stand.
Today I went to pull some wrenches out for a little exhaust work and there it was.
It's a 5/8" 6 point OSH20 and I put it next to a 12 point for some logo/no logo comparison.

woody 73 · Oct 25, 2013

I am going to go way, way, out on a tree limb and say that was a Fubar (maybe the wrong terminology here); a mistake that should have never left the Factory.

At least all the snap-on early tools that I have ever seen all had a logo of some kind.

wrenchr · Oct 25, 2013

I'd say military or a contract made tool from snap on, no name no warranty.

woody 73 · Oct 25, 2013

wrenchr said:
I'd say military or a contract made tool from snap on, no name no warranty.

Good point :thumbup:

that one had not crossed my brain this morning.

thetreshon · Oct 25, 2013

I have no idea about this, but when Military buys Snap on or similar brand, would they not get a warranty?

If not, I'm guessing cause the wrench (or any other tool) could get broken by getting blown up if it happens to be near the actual fighting of war or ??? and Snap on won't cover that?

I probably sound dumb, but I never really thought about the fact that Military wouldn't have the same warranty/replacements when buying Snap on etc.

hemifalcon · Oct 25, 2013

I can only speak from the time period of 2000-2004 when I was in the AVI side of the Marine Corps and everything we used was Snap-On.. How do I know?? It was stamped as such. And---it was warrantied. When **** broke--we got knew stuff. It usually took forever, but we got replacements.

Bruce Lancaster · Oct 25, 2013

Post WWII SO military stuff has normal stampings, but there is a V built into the prefix part of the otherwise normal Snap-on part number. The socket stuff I have is otherwise identical to civilian, with Industrial SO style breaker and ratchet. I think the tools are also undated.
The V is presumably there so your truck guy won't cover the guarantee. Presumably military either has its own replacement arrangement or just replaces dead tools from its own stock because sending paper and hardware to SO through 19 levels of command and bureaucracy would result in a $10,000 1/4" socket...

rsanter · Oct 25, 2013

I was told by my snap on industrial rep (corperate guy) that the goverment tools have no warranty. they are sold at a big discount as they are sold direct and the no warranty thing.
with that said, I was also told that of there is something defective or that breaks in short order the rep can swap it out at their discression. but only their rep can do that

bob

Steven67fr · Oct 25, 2013

I've read that it was written into the contract Plomb had with the US during WWII that the tools would not be warrantied for similar reasons.

NHBandit · Oct 25, 2013

We has some Snap On stuff in the Air Force in the mid 70s and while it did say Snap On it likely did have some special markings to indicate it was government property. I simply don't remember. That said how is a civilian going to explain why he is trying to warranty stolen government property ? I'm pretty sure that part of the deal with Snap On was that the tools couldn't be re-sold as surplus and there were even rumors at the base I was at of large numbers of tools being buried under one of the runways. Could have been just urban legend too. :dunno:

SCscoutguy · Oct 25, 2013

Bruce Lancaster said:
Post WWII SO military stuff has normal stampings, but there is a V built into the prefix part of the otherwise normal Snap-on part number. The socket stuff I have is otherwise identical to civilian, with Industrial SO style breaker and ratchet. I think the tools are also undated.
The V is presumably there so your truck guy won't cover the guarantee. Presumably military either has its own replacement arrangement or just replaces dead tools from its own stock because sending paper and hardware to SO through 19 levels of command and bureaucracy would result in a $10,000 1/4" socket...

This is the exact way it works. The current military snap on tools are not warrantied through Snap On. If you break one you have to go through proper military channels to get it replaced from their stocks or they buy a new one from Snap On. The truck doesn't show up and give you a new one.

3baygarage · Oct 26, 2013

Thanks for all the responses guys. I forgot to mention that the part number is a bit slanted as well because the picture doesn't really convey that.
Things just got stranger when I did a little search here on GJ and found another thread on the same model wrench believe it or not. His is messed up too! Makes me think some drunk was operating the stamping press. Here's the link.
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122064&highlight=misstamped+wrench

woody 73 · Oct 26, 2013

Well a drunk worker never crossed my mind I did say is was a mistake from the Factory...

3baygarage · Oct 26, 2013

Maybe quality control was off that week?

ptschram · Oct 26, 2013

NHBandit said:
We has some Snap On stuff in the Air Force in the mid 70s and while it did say Snap On it likely did have some special markings to indicate it was government property. I simply don't remember. That said how is a civilian going to explain why he is trying to warranty stolen government property ? I'm pretty sure that part of the deal with Snap On was that the tools couldn't be re-sold as surplus and there were even rumors at the base I was at of large numbers of tools being buried under one of the runways. Could have been just urban legend too.

I have a mid-40s ratchet hanging from the ceiling of my tool truck.

I was happy to warranty it as I ended up with a mid-40s ratchet for the cost of a new one.

We're not required to warranty "war-time" or military stuff, but if somebody gets on the truck with a 50-60 year old tool, I'm not gonna question it if there is a suitable replacement on thet ruck.

rusty65 · Oct 26, 2013

wrenchr said:
I'd say military or a contract made tool from snap on, no name no warranty.

I believe this is the correct answer. I find all kinds of snap on and par x wrenches and sockets/ratchets only stamped with part numbers due to the tools being from a contract production or issued and sold without name to have no warranty.

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