Overall, how satisfied are you with your BendPak 2 post lift?

sajohnson · Sep 7, 2008

Overall (quality, ease of use, safety, customer service, versatility, etc), how satisfied are you with your BendPak _2_ post lift?

The 'Poll' option only allows one question, so unfortunately, if your rating is in the middle because (for example) the lift itself is ok but BP's customer service is terrible, you'll have to elaborate.

Well, you don't have to of course, but it would be helpful!

Also, instead of having a zillion different polls, one for each lift mfr (Poll: How satisfied are you with your 2 post _XYZ_ lift?) I thought I'd just post one for now.

I started with BendPak because I'm leaning in that direction, but I'm open to suggestions for other reasonably priced certified 2 post lifts like Challenger, Eagle, etc.).

*** PLEASE, do not vote unless you actually own a BendPak 2 post lift (or use one at work) ***

Thank you!

OldCarGuy · Sep 8, 2008

I own a BendPack XPR-10ACX two-post lift along with a Mohawk System 1 two-post lift. Additionally I have worked on Rotary and Ben Pearson. The most important feature when considering a lift is that it's ALI/ETL Certified. While three of the four lifts I've mentioned are actually certified. My BendPack is in the processing of being certified. In the past all BendPacks lifts were certified. However my BendPack is a new model that was the second one off the assembly line of their new plant in China.

I continue to be impressed with most everything about my BendPack XPR-10ACX lift. The quality of the welds and the pristine powered paint job make this lift stand above the rest. But the simplicity in design, costomer service, and years of experienced behind its' manufacturing make it an outstanding value. BendPak should be number one on anyone’s list to consider when purchasing a lift. It may be a few bucks more expensive than any of the re-badged Chinese lifts, it is less than any other ALI/ETL Certified lift.

Here is a compilation and comparison of three lifts that I posted a few months ago… It would be helpful if anyone that owns a two-post lift would forward me their lifts specifications, I'd gladly add it to that post.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19456

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brownbagg · Sep 8, 2008

have a xp-9, that is great, been outside for couple years, no problem.

sajohnson · Sep 9, 2008

brownbagg said:
have a xp-9, that is great, been outside for couple years, no problem.

Outside?

You mean it's out in the weather?

sajohnson · Sep 9, 2008

I thought the XPR-10 ACX was certified.

After reviewing the ALI site I see it's the XP-10ACX:
http://www.ali-directory.org/ALI/AL...er?OpenView&Start=1&Count=1000&Expand=1.1#1.1

What is the difference between the two?

OldCarGuy · Sep 9, 2008

sajohnson said:
I thought the XPR-10 ACX was certified.

After reviewing the ALI site I see it's the XP-10ACX:
http://www.ali-directory.org/ALI/AL...er?OpenView&Start=1&Count=1000&Expand=1.1#1.1

What is the difference between the two?

From what I understand the non “R” version (XP-10ACX) was manufactured in BendPack's plant in California. And has been ALI/ETL certified. The “R” version has just hit the market a few months ago and is manufactured in BendPack's new plant in China. It has the same basic design as its’ predecessor. But has revised “Tru-Metric” arms and locking mechanisms. That provides more versatile and greater arm positioning. And is going through the complex process of being certified.

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sajohnson · Sep 9, 2008

OldCarGuy said:
From what I understand the non “R” version (XP-10ACX) was manufactured in BendPack's plant in California. And has been ALI/ETL certified. The “R” version has just hit the market a few months ago and is manufactured in BendPack's new plant in China. It has the same basic design as its’ predecessor. But has revised “Tru-Metric” arms and locking mechanisms. That provides more versatile and greater arm positioning. And is going through the complex process of being certified.

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Thanks OCG, that's very helpful!

Unfortunately, it means I have to hold off on ordering a lift, unless I decide to get one made by another mfr.

Maybe you can answer another question for me. My understanding is that all (or almost all) states require that any vehicle lift have ANSI/ALI/ETL certification. How are lift mfrs able to continue selling non-certified lifts? Is it one of those 'wink-wink' kind of deals -- "Oh, I'm not going to _install_ it, I'm just going to leave the parts in a pile on the floor..."? "For educational purposes only"?!

PS: I'm very impressed with the threads/posts you've contributed here at GJ. Keep up the good work!

OldCarGuy · Sep 9, 2008

sajohnson said:
Thanks OCG, that's very helpful!

Unfortunately, it means I have to hold off on ordering a lift, unless I decide to get one made by another mfr.

Maybe you can answer another question for me. My understanding is that all (or almost all) states require that any vehicle lift have ANSI/ALI/ETL certification. How are lift mfrs able to continue selling non-certified lifts? Is it one of those 'wink-wink' kind of deals -- "Oh, I'm not going to _install_ it, I'm just going to leave the parts in a pile on the floor..."? "For educational purposes only"?!

PS: I'm very impressed with the threads/posts you've contributed here at GJ. Keep up the good work!

This would be best answered by an expert. And I may be way off base. But as far as I know, there isn't any State or Federal laws governing automotive lift certifications. At least I never heard of any being enforced in the United States.

If enough people start getting hurt by lift failures, I'm sure that we'll see the laws changed and or enforced. With our government bureaucracy regulating the industry, we'll really have a mess! I'm never in favor of government regulations. I would much rather see the manufacturers push the industry for self-compliance. That is why the American Lift Institute was created.

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livewire · Sep 9, 2008

I love my XP-10ACX

sajohnson · Sep 10, 2008

I see that so far all 5 members who have voted are "very satisfied" with their BendPak lift.

OCG has the XPR-10ACX (not yet certified).

livewire has an XP-10acx. Is that a certified lift?

brownbagg has an XP-9. Certified?

What about the others? Which lift do you have? Is it certified?

Thanks!

Nutty 5.0 · Sep 10, 2008

I have the MX-10 series and it is cert'd. I got it in 05. Also very happy.

jcs_in_ky · Sep 10, 2008

Some cities in some states do require the lift to be certified. I was talking to a friend of mine in California who lives in a town I used to live in. He told me that the city is now inspecting all lift installations there, and they have requirements above and beyond the manufacturers. For example he said they require all lifts to have a foot poured for each post and it has to contain at least three cubic feet of concrete. He also said they want to see the certification label as part of the inspection.

Look at this page on the ALI website. I haven't spent much time reading it but it should contain some code information about your area. http://www.autolift.org/enforcement.htm

The information they gave for my area was not exactly accurate. Some of the large cities here require an inspection them but where we live we are out in the country and there is very little required in the way of building inspections for anything.

sajohnson · Sep 10, 2008

Nutty 5.0 said:
I have the MX-10 series and it is cert'd. I got it in 05. Also very happy.

Thank you Nutty!

It looks like I might have missed the boat with regard to the certified BendPak lifts -- at least temporarily. The MX-1o series doesn't seem to be listed on BendPak's site:

http://www.bendpak.com/products/automotive-lifts/

From what I've read so far, it seems as though most/all of BendPak's lifts used to be made here in the USA and most/all of them were ALI certified.

Now apparently BendPak is going through a transition and having more and more of their lifts made in China and all of those are going through the certification process -- is that right?

I'm a bit concerned that while the feedback on BP lifts here at GJ is almost all positive, most of those opinions are based on the older US made models. The reviews of the China made models are ok, but there seem to be some QC issues. Is that an accurate assessment?

Of course, even if the lifts made in China seemed identical to the older models I would not buy one without it being certified.

BendPak lifts seem decent but so do some others like Eagle and Challenger.

revlover · Sep 10, 2008

sajohnson - I know you've seen this thread because you posted in it, but if you actually read the whole thread (I know there's a lot of content), you'll get a lot of good information from customers biased and non-biased, plus the Vice President of BendPak himself.

Go through it again... it'll answer your questions.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19992

sajohnson · Sep 10, 2008

revlover said:
sajohnson - I know you've seen this thread because you posted in it, but if you actually read the whole thread (I know there's a lot of content), you'll get a lot of good information from customers biased and non-biased, plus the Vice President of BendPak himself.

Go through it again... it'll answer your questions.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19992

Thanks for the reminder revolver. I'm taking in a lot of info and my memory isn't what it used to be (and it was never very good).

I'll go back through it.

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