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Milwaukee, Rigid, Porter Cable, Dewalt, or Makita cordless tools?

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I'm shopping for cordless drill and impact driver and I've narrowed it down to Milwaukee, Rigid, Porter Cable, Dewalt, and Makita. What are your opinions/experiences with the aforementioned brands? Currently I only need a drill and driver but in the future I may or may not want other cordless tools. Most of the other cordless tools I see offered I'd almost rather have corded for the added power/capability/flexibility that come with corded models, and I have no real need to be cordless with everything.

Porter Cable 20v line seemed to fit the best in my hand, I liked the magnetic bit holder location, and I liked the battery meter. I'm just concerned that these are too cheaply made since Dewalt and PC are under the same parent company and these are the cheapest of all the brands I'm looking at. Tool selection is also the smallest

Rigid has a "lifetime warranty" which even covers the battery....but it seems as though it's hit or miss if you can find a service center to help you out. Also has the battery meter (directly on the battery which is a big plus) and fits well in my hand. Tool selection is smaller compared to the other brands. Though I do start to wonder when they throw in a radio with their drill/driver kit and it's priced at $20 more than Porter Cable if they're not a cost cutting homeowner quality brand.

Milwaukee M18's I could get brushless motors if I step up to the Fuel line, and it has a battery meter like Rigid's. They seem to get plenty of good reviews and have a large tool selection

Dewalt I can also get brushless motors if I wanted, and they had the best lighting setup (though really any of them are an improvement over what I have now...which is none.), they fit "alright" in my hand but not great, though I have been warned by a few close friends who depend on their tools that they're not the company they used to be.

Makita felt really nice in my hand but don't really know anything about them. Tool selection seems about on par with Milwaukee. I'm only looking at the metal chuck versions, not the plastic ones. I also like the battery meter and bit holder locations.


Since I'm not making a living with these tools, and they'll be a home/hobby use only, I doubt I'll kill any of them. More than likely I'll have to replace them when the price of a replacement battery exceeds 50% of the cost of a new set of tools. That said I don't want to buy complete **** either that I end up replacing in a few years.

The one brand I was a little disappointed with was Bosch, they make a hell of a tool but it just doesn't feel right in my hand. And I've learned that if it's not comfortable in my hand I'm less likely going to use it or like using it. I might try going back to the store and giving them another shot just to see if it was a fluke on that day but usually my gut instinct is right.

Right now I'm currently leaning towards Milwaukee and Makita, but the voice of my frugal Polish Grandfather in the back of my head keeps saying go with Rigid for the warranty (mostly for the batteries which I bet will wear out long before the tool)....then again he liked to dumpster dive on the weekends to look for stuff that people were throwing out that were repairable or still good. My current drill is a Black and Decker corded from the 80's that he found in the trash and it still works, albeit long in the tooth :lol_hitti.
 
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I've had great luck with the dewalt. I bought the driver/drill combo for the automotive/heavy equipment shop i work in and loved them so much i bought my own for my personal box. I use the driver as a 1/4" & 3/8" impact daily and am amazed at the power it has.
 

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Use the search function.

I've only seen 2000 of these in the last week...

:bs: I've gone back through the last 100pgs of threads, there's not 2000 in the last week. In fact there's less than 10 in the last week that are relevant to my thread.

And maybe I'm doing it wrong but I've not found the search function on here to be all that useful. I've been using google to do most of my searching by entering: site:garagejournal.com <search criteria>.
 

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I've been using the full line of Dewalt 18V at work for many years, and I have Porter Cable 18V at home. Other than the shortcomings of NiCad, they've both been great. If I were to change course now (at home) I'd not hesitate to go with the Porter Cable 20V.
 

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I'm shopping for cordless drill and impact driver... Currently I only need a drill and driver but in the future I may or may not want other cordless tools.

I use my impact driver a lot and think you're wise to focus on fit. But I also think that when picking a cordless tool "system" you need to also strongly consider what other cordless tools you might want. It seems everybody is making good drills and impact drivers nowadays and I'm sure you'd be happy with any of them that fit.

But when you start to consider things like reciprocating saws, impact wrenches or maybe even angle grinders then I think the advantages of brushless motors and bigger batteries become more important. At least that argument has been made by others here before.

GJ can be a tough site to search, especially for common topics when everybody has a different way to title their threads. One search I do think will be helpful to you is "brushless". You'll get a lot of search results but some of the threads have been educational to me.
 

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Browse what each has to offer, all the listed brands are reputable, they just differ in design and engineering choices.

I went with Milwaukee because having a solid impact wrench was on top of my list, nobody else on the market has better power in their compact impact tools (210 ft-lbs in their compact gun, or 100 ft-lbs in their 12v impact driver, which I actually use more than the 18v gun) and I have the option of buying huge 1100 ft-lb gun without having to invest in a new battery platform. That said, their tools are way expensive! I could've gone with a cheaper brand and had double the functional tools.

DeWalts aren't cheap either, and their impact guns are a good 3 or 4 steps behind Milwaukee's. Their brand new high torque gun is only doing 300 ft-lbs, which leaves quite a lot to be desired. Maybe when they debut their brushless impact wrenches, it'll change, but so far the waiting game has been quite long and drawn out.

I don't know much about Porter Cable other than they look excessively bulky for "stylistic reasons". They kinda turned me off....just make the tool more compact, no one cares how macho it looks. I'd say the same about Ridgid.

My buddy has the Makitas, they run forever and he beats on them. Good tools, but I was honestly turned off by how they have 6 different versions of each tool, of varying qualities.
 
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I use my impact driver a lot and think you're wise to focus on fit. But I also think that when picking a cordless tool "system" you need to also strongly consider what other cordless tools you might want. It seems everybody is making good drills and impact drivers nowadays and I'm sure you'd be happy with any of them that fit.

But when you start to consider things like reciprocating saws, impact wrenches or maybe even angle grinders then I think the advantages of brushless motors and bigger batteries become more important. At least that argument has been made by others here before.

GJ can be a tough site to search, especially for common topics when everybody has a different way to title their threads. One search I do think will be helpful to you is "brushless". You'll get a lot of search results but some of the threads have been educational to me.

Thanks Voi, I didn't think to search for "brushless". I'll have to do some more reading on it. From my understanding brushless motors are fairly new to the field so to speak, and the price difference isn't super huge, but it is indeed the way of the future for all power tools because they're more efficient and powerful in the same sized package.

The hardest part about looking forwards to the future is not really knowing what the future has in store. I'd really hate to buy a set of cordless tools and only use 2 or 3 while the others sit unused for years/life of the set.
 

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Dare I tackle this?

One might say "apple, apple, orange, apple, orange"?

Or

In order of overall performance + selection available to the general DIY/Pro:

Top tier
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Hilti
Festool
Metabo
Panasonic
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Next tier
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Milwaukee
Bosch
Makita
Dewalt
Hitachi
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Next tier
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Ridgid
PC
Craftsman
Roybi
BD
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Bottom tier
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House brands ie Klutch, etc...
HF

* Im sure im forgetting a few but thats a quick general list.

Personally, right now, for my money I would get Milwaukee. They have the one of the largest lines out, and have really been pushing the envelope on design and R&D. Lots of money has been poured into the Fuel line and it shows.

Ridgid has really been improving but they are still bulky and cheap feeling. And the warranty is a huge draw.

And thats coming from a guy who owns Hitachi 18v Lith (really like) and Dewalt 20v (not happy with). And have used most if not all these brands extensively.

Now flame away boys:FIREdevil
 

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I don't think you are going to go wrong with dewalt, makita, or milwaukee. I myself chose makita due to them never letting my dad down all these years. Go lithium though the 30 minute fast chargers are awesome.
 

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:bs: I've gone back through the last 100pgs of threads, there's not 2000 in the last week. In fact there's less than 10 in the last week that are relevant to my thread.

And maybe I'm doing it wrong but I've not found the search function on here to be all that useful. I've been using google to do most of my searching by entering: site:garagejournal.com <search criteria>.


That was a bit of an over exaggeration, but look in the top right corner.

I'm serious; there's been a lot of these, and it boils down to

A) Color
B) Looks
C) Feel

We all have favorites but these are often opinions you must form yourself.
They all offer very similar products, and when one of the big four introduces something new, the other three do in months.

If it persuade you any, DeWalt is American made.
 

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I searched "DeWalt" for you. First page+ is from the first if not today.

Today there have been multiple threads like "I need a good drill" cman pro vs ridgid, etc.

It's like the Chevy vs ford vs dodge arguments - thy never end, and we all have our own opinions about them.
 

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I would go with the Milwaukee or the Makita. I have used both brands and as far as I am concerned, you can't go wrong with either brand. This is not to say other brands don't have good products, I am just saying I have experience with both these brands and I know first hand the Milwaukee and the Makita brands are both top notch products and will give you really good service.
 

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If it persuade you any, DeWalt is American made.

Not "American made," which most people would consider to mean "made in the USA."

Some models are "built in the USA," which translates to mean they're assembled in the USA with likely a lot of imported parts. That's better than any of the other brands, though.

I personally haven't seen any of the new USA-assembled DeWalt tools in my area, so it isn't certain the OP could find the tool he wants in a USA-assembled version.
 

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The porter cable is actually very well made. Many reviews of pro's using it daily on the job and them holding up. They use a lot of metal guts, not plastic too! They are also by far the smallest 20V on the market and extremely light weight. The batteries are made in Japan and assembled in china.

The porter cable 20V line is also expanding. http://www.portercable.com/20Volt

There are more additions to come also at a later time....
 

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Not "American made," which most people would consider to mean "made in the USA."

Some models are "built in the USA," which translates to mean they're assembled in the USA with likely a lot of imported parts. That's better than any of the other brands, though.

I personally haven't seen any of the new USA-assembled DeWalt tools in my area, so it isn't certain the OP could find the tool he wants in a USA-assembled version.

They're built (made) in America.

I see what you're saying, I knew what I was thinking but as you pointed out others probably didn't.
 

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I just assume that they're all about the same.

I'd buy into a set given the cost of consumables (batteries), the likelihood that the manufacturer will change their mind and go into something new, and how many tools are in that line of products.
 
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