Anyone use this brand before? Any reviews? http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GQTDXX0?cache=1390668854#ref=pd_aw_sbs_hi_0&precache=1
very fine tooth ratchets any good?
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daparrothead
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Can't say that I have seen or heard of them. I would definitely be interested in seeing the 168 tooth mechanism myself.
woody 73
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Wow I wonder if Ms. Wei Weng has a post on youtube showing that ratchet in action. Crazy high tooth count and only 2.1 degree of swing arc.
Bigblue&Goldie
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Sounds like a Chinese knuckle buster to me!
superautobacs
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That's a very good price.
This is probably very similar to Triangle tool's '144-tooth', stacked, dual-paul mechanism, but this model is now using a 84-tooth wheel to make it a '168-tooth'.
In theory, it's a 2.1* swing arc, but in reality it never is as you must factor in the entire play in the mechanism.
With that curved handle and push-release design, the OEM is probably Williams Tools: http://www.wtools.com.tw/Ratchet-Handles-Curved.shtml#01
This is probably very similar to Triangle tool's '144-tooth', stacked, dual-paul mechanism, but this model is now using a 84-tooth wheel to make it a '168-tooth'.
In theory, it's a 2.1* swing arc, but in reality it never is as you must factor in the entire play in the mechanism.
With that curved handle and push-release design, the OEM is probably Williams Tools: http://www.wtools.com.tw/Ratchet-Handles-Curved.shtml#01
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The handle curve and ratchet head looks like the ratchets sold by Grizzly.
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I have a Toptul 3/8 and it works ok, alittle stiff when new but ok after a few uses.
sparky7
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Just get snap on ratchets man.. buy once never look back
sparky7
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eh personal opinion i guess, i have 6 matco 88's they are good but a snap on takes the cake.
So I am wrong for buying a 18 dollar ratchet instead of a Snap On. Yet you have 6 Matcos and yet are saying all someone should buy is Snap On.
I just bought my first Snap On a few months ago. It is nice but i seen the price on a 1/2" one. I only have one 1/2" right now its a course tooth Proto and I love it. I decided why not have a second one and why not a fine tooth. I feel fine spending 18 dollars on it and not 100 plus on a Snap On. But thanks for the input
Let me know where I can get a new F80 for 50 to 60 dollars.
Not to get off the subject, but to answer your question they sell on ebay in the $50-60 dollar range quite often, they used to sell here for 50-55 shipped on a regular basis also.
Bigblue&Goldie
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Did you not look at the link I posted? There are two for sale in that link for $60 shipped.
sparky7
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I have a ratchet in just about every tool brand that you can think of and probably at least 2 of them, so yes i am still saying that you mine as well just buy snap on because at the end of the day i prefer the snap on ratchets i have to anything else. And its not because i collect tools or something stupid like that. its because i bought cheaper stuff and over the years of working as a mechanic you realize that snap on tools really are better than anything else.
Yeah i get the point you want a cheap ratchet, go for it im sure it works just fine but really if i could go back in time i would just buy snap on ratchets and save my money for other tools.
I can agree with that. Part of me ordering it was curiosity and part a cheap backup. Same goes for the 3/8 snap on i bought recently. I didnt need it either. I am also not a mechanic. The only tool i use everyday is a pen and a keyboard. Just wish I was wrenching with everyone else.
Bigblue&Goldie
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I agree, I find a lot of this stuff very interesting.
I'm not usually one to "start arguments", but I just don't see the point in buying all of these cheap tools when you can pony up and buy a proven winner from the get go. $60 for a ratchet is a lot of money until you sit back and think that you can take the wife out to dinner and a movie and spend that without trying. I get being on a budget, but I have always regretted going cheap instead of saving for something better. Just trying to stir up thoughts, not arguments.
Farmall450
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They're in the classifieds all the time.
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You can only use one ratchet at a time guys, settle down. Back on subject, let us know how they work!!
sparky7
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Its all good man, wrench on your own stuff its more enjoyable anyway lol
nicksnothereman
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I've seen those on a manufacturer's website before. I think they're something like 6-8 dollar taiwanese ratchets. Not too bad a price on this one but the manufacturer isn't a main mfg like some of the other ones that bleed into retail brands.
Should you buy it? If you want it, it's 20 bucks. It might not be up to the current crop of taiwanese rebranded stuff though because the original manufacturer doesn't make a ton of ratchets (as I recall). I don't own it so I won't knock it. The real problem is that they might be using specialty components (especially the internals) which haven't been used widely. You can be the ginea pig I suppose.
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I would say go for it I have beat up my duralast ratchet thats held up long past any of my matco 88's and snap on dual 80 even thou it's import does not mean it's not reliable. I do love my so dual 80 (and most of my ratchets are snapy)
And fwiw I use my standard length 1/2 ratchet the least mostly I am grabbing my extra long 1/2 for high torque purposes mostly 3/8 can Handle up to 100 f/ibs easy
And fwiw I use my standard length 1/2 ratchet the least mostly I am grabbing my extra long 1/2 for high torque purposes mostly 3/8 can Handle up to 100 f/ibs easy
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very interested in a review of this ratchet. would love to see it in action. and to the OP, don't worry I understand why you got this, might get myself one
Experimenting with new tool styles is fun.
Truper spin-handle ratchets for a true 0° movement. much like a car differential. 72T mechanism in regular use. Push through drive plug and flip to reverse.
They are not quite as strong as a simpler ratchet nor as resistant to grit but in those $%&% places you can't get a hand and a tool at the same time they truly shine.
About $100 for the pair and worth every cent of it. Asain or not they shine above others.
You have to buy and try them to know sometimes.
Truper spin-handle ratchets for a true 0° movement. much like a car differential. 72T mechanism in regular use. Push through drive plug and flip to reverse.
They are not quite as strong as a simpler ratchet nor as resistant to grit but in those $%&% places you can't get a hand and a tool at the same time they truly shine.
About $100 for the pair and worth every cent of it. Asain or not they shine above others.
You have to buy and try them to know sometimes.
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I have a kobolt that does that that some one gave me as a gift. I have not found a reason to use it yet though.
for the snap-on vs X debate, I love my snap-on dual 80s and wouldn't trade them for the world. That being said I do still like checking out other ratchets to see how they are. I have one of those HF composites and it is a pretty decent ratchet and don't cost much. So who knows the ratchet being mentioned by the OP may not be all that bad.
shoggoth80
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Depends on what you do with them. Lol.
Looks neat.
I've got a Snappy 100tooth roto head, and love it. I have the 1/4" 72tooth as well. Love my roto heads. Bought a GW roto to see if I would like the design. I blew it up at work the other week (think it was 72tooth)... blasted the guts trying to undo a very rusted exhaust bolt. I've got the Bahco with the Dual 80 guts, and that is a fine little ratchet for not a lot of money at all. I also have a 72tooth Kobalt head on a Titan flex stubby handle...sometimes space and angles will allow nothing else in there.
The lesson here is not all ratchets are equal, and not all ratchets perform the same functions to the same degree. Buy what you like and what works for you. If that means you found a something new that you want to try out, go for it. The fastener that stripped my GW's guts, would likely have busted anything in 3/8" drive. It was only a 15mm nut, but it might as well have been welded on.
Looks neat.
I've got a Snappy 100tooth roto head, and love it. I have the 1/4" 72tooth as well. Love my roto heads. Bought a GW roto to see if I would like the design. I blew it up at work the other week (think it was 72tooth)... blasted the guts trying to undo a very rusted exhaust bolt. I've got the Bahco with the Dual 80 guts, and that is a fine little ratchet for not a lot of money at all. I also have a 72tooth Kobalt head on a Titan flex stubby handle...sometimes space and angles will allow nothing else in there.
The lesson here is not all ratchets are equal, and not all ratchets perform the same functions to the same degree. Buy what you like and what works for you. If that means you found a something new that you want to try out, go for it. The fastener that stripped my GW's guts, would likely have busted anything in 3/8" drive. It was only a 15mm nut, but it might as well have been welded on.
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Im with BigBlue&Goldie, spend a little more, and you have it for your grandchildren's life. Im all for cheap ratchets in a boat/truck/atv toolbox, but at work, I need my stuff to work, now! I dont regret my Snap-On purchases one bit, but, everyone has different needs and opinions.
basspro
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Shoggoth80, somebody is thinking, "Why didnt you jump to 1/2" drive?" Sometimes you just cant, and a 3/8" is all that fits, even though Im a bigger 1/2 drive fan than 3/8 drive, I know what using what ya' got and what fits is all about. Ive busted the drive already on my Snap-On Dual 80 FLH80 (3/8" drive). Could not fit a 1/2 drive socket in that spot, and when you are balls deep and in a rush its a grab what fits now type of thing. Snap-On repaced my ratchet, I butchered a 1/2 drive socket and put a breaker on it, done deal, junk socket, but sometimes that happens.
shoggoth80
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Well, I thought "15mm nut" which is something I bust off with a 3/8" drive 9 times out of 10. Fleet work seems to be really tough on tools. I have busted 2 ratchets (1/4" and 3/8"), 1 breaker bar (1/4" drive), and a ratcheting wrench so far. The rats were mine as I am waiting to get the rest of my kit issued... making do for the minute. My issued 1/2" is a big *** SK flex head that has seen some use, and it's a fantastic piece.
Sorry about the wandering off topic.
Sorry about the wandering off topic.
Got the 3/8 today. Quality seems like most Tiawan ratchets ... pretty good for what it costs.
The closest ratchet I have to this is one of the Triangle 144 click and this seems a lot nicer. Nice, even ratcheting (unlike the Triangle which seems to have one stronger pawl and the internals moves back and forth in the body as it ratchets).
It sounds pretty dry, but it's got a lot less drag than my 120xp. If only it was longer...
Pictures are with a 3/8 120xp cushion flex head and Craftsman premium. Thickness is compared to the 120xp.
The closest ratchet I have to this is one of the Triangle 144 click and this seems a lot nicer. Nice, even ratcheting (unlike the Triangle which seems to have one stronger pawl and the internals moves back and forth in the body as it ratchets).
It sounds pretty dry, but it's got a lot less drag than my 120xp. If only it was longer...
Pictures are with a 3/8 120xp cushion flex head and Craftsman premium. Thickness is compared to the 120xp.
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How much wiggle does the 3/8 stub have?
I figure with 168 teeth the tolerance between the pawls and the gear must have to be dam near as tight as a high speed bearing with very little free play or slop. I wonder if they'll make a low profile, it does look a little bulky compared to the 120xp. 2.5' angle, you gotta like that but I wonder how much torque it can take. It would likely depend on how many teeth engage at once.
I figure with 168 teeth the tolerance between the pawls and the gear must have to be dam near as tight as a high speed bearing with very little free play or slop. I wonder if they'll make a low profile, it does look a little bulky compared to the 120xp. 2.5' angle, you gotta like that but I wonder how much torque it can take. It would likely depend on how many teeth engage at once.
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