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gtr cook

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Firstly I would like to say hello and I blame this forum for what I am about to start!
As you have probably guessed, garages over here are tiny. My current garage is just big enough to squeeze my pride and joy into.

This was ok to start with but 5 years on, I have out grown it and now need more off street parking and space!

I will start with my current single garage, as you can see things are quite tight in there. There is literally 2” either side as I pull the car in and exiting the vehicle requires the window to be fully down. Due to the tight fit, small jobs make me think twice- often leading to me leaving it for another day. Thing’s like cleaning the daily cars is a pain as the car needs to be moved to get to things.

Now after finding this site, I gathered some ideas together on how I could improve the situation. I threw some paint on the floor and walls and I think it came out quite good. An inexpensive makeover and the car now stays dust free.

First up, this is what i started with:













And how it looks now:








Just to show how tight it is:



The floor paint looked really good until I parked on it- despite claiming to be immune to hot tyre pick up, it didn’t “do what it said on the tin”. So now I have four bare concrete patch’s on an otherwise nice floor.

I am now in a position where I can put a 2 car garage in the back garden with a side entrance to the property. The builder has given a quote that I like and after I have cleared the space, work should hopefully start.

The garage itself will be 22’x22’ with a single door, electric and a tap for the hose. It will be constructed from blocks and eventually rendered and painted. Initially the inside will remain bare apart from concrete sealer on the floor. The plan will be to finish the inside myself and also see if insulation is required (I am guessing it will be). It will have a flat roof to meet the councils requirement of no more than 2.5 meters in height due to it being within 2 meters of the boundary.
The garden will also be tidied up- just haven’t had the time over the winter to do what’s necessary. The fence will also be replaced due to it being old and over Christmas the winds seem to have broken the concrete posts that hold it up.

As my time is limited and I am not really a fan of gardening, there flower beds will go and replaced with grass for a clean and low maintenance garden.

I will hopefully start clearing the area on Friday so will put up pics and garage info as i go.

Thanks for reading and hope to hear your thoughts and ideas.

Lee
 
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That is tight. I liked the bricks but it looks nice and sanitary now. If you new garage takes after that, it will be splendid.

Welcome to the GJ as a poster although it seems you've been here for awhile.
 

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Damn that's a tight spot! The new garage will be easier to work with I'm sure.

Nice car by the way.
 

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Your garage is less than my. New will be more. I will follow your project.
 
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Thanks for the welcome, the build will start some time in march/april. I have a lot to clear to make space for the build to start.

Cool, look forward to reading more about it.

Fellow nurburgring veteran!

Jordan

Unfortunately I am no veteran but I have enjoyed the laps I have done. Will hopefully go back soon! :beer:

That is tight. I liked the bricks but it looks nice and sanitary now. If you new garage takes after that, it will be splendid.

Welcome to the GJ as a poster although it seems you've been here for awhile.

Thanks, I signed up a while ago but didnt think my single would be worthy given the amazing garages you have all created. You have given me a lot of inspiration for the new project and would like to share it.
 

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Welcome to GJ. Ingress into the car NASCAR style, that's tough. Any Spiderman blood in you? I'm looking forward to your build.
 
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Very nice transformation. Sweet Skyline! What are the dimensions of the single?

Thanks for the complement, i saved for 5 years to get that car, and i love it.

The front where the garage door is just over 2meters wide, the back is just under 3 meters wide and its 5.5 meters in length. the side road next to the property angles towards the front so thats why the entrance is narrower.


Welcome to GJ. Ingress into the car NASCAR style, that's tough. Any Spiderman blood in you? I'm looking forward to your build.

Thanks, not quite spiderman but close to it!

I will grab a picture of the garden and also a sketch of what i am planning tomorrow.
 
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Today i spent a few hours clearing the space where the garage will go.

This is the garden and the garage will go where the big shed on the right is. This will be dismantled and be moved to where the little shed is currently. My dad built these 20 years ago and they are still in great condition. The big shed needs some attention, this will dealt with once its reassembled. Am a little sad to take them down as my dad is no longer here.



This is what it will look like once finished:



The big shed is a work shed, has been well used over the years and now has a lot of rubbish to be cleared. Today i moved all the tools and required items to the little shed:

Big shed to start with:





Little shed to start:



And after a reorganization, this is how i ended the day:

Big shed with just rubbish remaining:




Little shed with everything:





Hopefully i can get the rubbish to the dump over the weekend and start to dismantle the big shed. Doesn’t look like a lot was done but there was a lot of stuff to move across.
 

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Nice job on your garage, good luck with your new plans! Looking forward to seeing your project...

My wife is from Rochester/Kent area and we just visited family over the holidays. Love it, and although plane flights cost $$$, cant wait to visit again! :beer:
 
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Small update.

I did some clearing to get the site ready for the builders. The large shed has been dismantled so it can be re erected at a later date.

Some photo’s i took so i can re assemble it at a later date:













I have heard from the builder and have a start date of 18/19th of this month. Remaining concrete will be removed by the builder along with the rubbish.

Cannot wait now!
 
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So it has been a while and slow progress has been made. The old concrete has been cleared and the ground work almost complete.

Firstly I needed to make a temporary gate to give the builder access- it’s very shoddy but I had very short notice and its lasted so far. This will be replaced with a sliding gate once the work has been completed.







Next up was the braking up of the old shed base and the small patio at the back of the garden.









To where we are this morning



I will keep the updates coming, from now on should be more interesting!
 

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Nice project. Not been on here in a while so this is the first time I have seen it but will definitely be following your progress in future. Loving the R34 too - have wanted one for a long time and that's my fave colour for them too!
 
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Nice project. Not been on here in a while so this is the first time I have seen it but will definitely be following your progress in future. Loving the R34 too - have wanted one for a long time and that's my fave colour for them too!

Thanks for the complements.

The 34 is my dream car, have owned it for nearly six years and love it! Cannot wait for the garage to be finished so both toys can be kept safe.

 
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A small update on progress so far, the footings are being poured at the moment. We are currently two thirds of the way through and then the block work can start











Will update when more progress is made.
 
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OK, so hopefully the first interesting update and the one that gives a real idea on how it will turn out. Up till now It’s been boring ground work, apologies for that.

The footings have been poured and the damp course installed.



The walls are going up.







As of this morning when I left for work.



Shouldn’t be too much longer before the RSJ goes up and the roofer will be over. Once the roof is on, the floor will be poured and then the door can be installed.

Still a long way to go before the cars can move in but cannot wait!!!!!!:bounce:
 

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Are you using insulating blocks? What thickness are they?
If you can manage the weight of them big blocks go up quickly.
Will you need a dense concrete pad under each end of the RSJ?
 
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Are you using insulating blocks? What thickness are they?
If you can manage the weight of them big blocks go up quickly.
Will you need a dense concrete pad under each end of the RSJ?

The first course are designed for below the damp course, 9" thick, i think the builder said they are engineering blocks- can check that. The blocks above the damp course are 9" thick thermolites. Sorry, i am not 100% on the details, hope that answered your question.

Not sure on the concrete pad, can ask the builder and get an answer for you. I imagine there will be something though. I will speak to him next week and ask.
 
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Well, it's been a quiet few weeks. I didn't realise it was that long ago since my last update.

Things have unfortunately halted. We managed to get the walls up to there final height and then the builder went AWOL with no explanation for 5 weeks. Have chased and I now have an RSJ installed and a very thin floor which I was assured was not the finished article.

Following a call to the builder on Tuesday where I expressed my concerns over the lack of progress, I was promised some this week. Nothing so far and I doubt I will see him again!

Does anyone think he will show?

So now I am in the process of getting quotes to finish the build and then seeking advice of the legal kind to tie him up in knots.

Jobs left that the builder was contracted to do are: roof and guttering, a proper floor that you can actually put a vehicle on and electrics run from the house and installed. He was also supposed to render the outside, however he left it off the quotation so I guess I am out of luck there.

Any one had a similar experience and any tips on where to go next?

Currently I am getting quotes to complete the outstanding works and seeking legal advice to recover some of the money paid. He hasn't had the total amount, however I strongly suspect the remaining tasks will cost more than the final payment he was due- possibly why he has been so elusive.

I hope I can get it water tight this year and not exceed the original quote, my enthusiasm has been knocked now over this.

It will get some up to date pictures up tomorrow and see if I can get my motivation back.
 

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Sorry to hear this (I'm in the UK) - builders going AWOL is quite common, I'm afraid. The blockwork looks first rate so at least he did a good job on that before he gave up.

I do have some experience of legal matters - send me a PM if you want a chat.
 
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Sorry to hear this (I'm in the UK) - builders going AWOL is quite common, I'm afraid. The blockwork looks first rate so at least he did a good job on that before he gave up.

I do have some experience of legal matters - send me a PM if you want a chat.

Thanks I appreciate that, ill try and pm in the morning once at work.

The more people I speak to the more I hear its common practice these days :lol_hitti

He has a done a really good job so far and I would really like him to continue.
 

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Hopefully, you've paid for what he's done and no more. I've seen this type of thing become long and drawn out.
 

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My advice would be to look for a local builder who is recommended by people you trust. These tend to be more reliable than the bloke who gives you the cheapest quote and ends up doing a bunk with your money when a better paid job comes up.
 
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