I am new to this forum and looking to get some nice and long lasting tools. I rarely have good luck with used ones so only looking for a new and made in USA compressor at or below $1200 shipped... but I'd be happy if I can get it for much less so I can get other tools for welding, HVLP painting, sand blasting etc. My projects will include a full restoration of my pickup, as well as general stuff around the home including kitchen/bath cabinets and trim. If it's a toss up, then the quieter model will win hands down. Thanks
Help me choose a 60 gallon compressor under $1200
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Not sure there are many which are 100% USA made anywhere near that price point but...
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-Q13160VQ-Air-Compressor/p12330.html
Can you squeeze out a couple hundred bucks more?
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-2V41C60VC-Air-Compressor/p855.html
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-Q13160VQ-Air-Compressor/p12330.html
Can you squeeze out a couple hundred bucks more?
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Quincy-2V41C60VC-Air-Compressor/p855.html
cagullett1
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Puma at Northern Tool. Great compressor and Northern Tools has a $50 off coupon to boot.
^^^ Get that Quincy or if cost is an issue then consider the HF 60 gallon unit which is a rebranded Bel Air. Contrary to popular belief it isn't from China.
Mach5
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No love for the Sears 60? I have one and it seems to do alright though I'll admit it hasn't seen real heavy use.
It was only about $800 as I recall.
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It was only about $800 as I recall.
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I called HF 2-stage and they quoted me $1,087 including tax, freight and lift gate. If i could figure a way to get it out of my truck when I got home, I could buy locally and save $250 on freight and lift-gate but I don't have a engine or fork lift.
TommyK, For the work I have planned, do you think I can get it done with the single stage?
You don't need a fork lift for the HF 60 gallon unit. Just slide it in your truck bed motor/pump side first. Then slide it out the same way and let the base gradually tilt to the ground and pull it upright. Now waltz it into your shop/garage.
One person can do it but two would be helpful. (find a neighbor and trade them a suitcase of beer for 15 minutes work)
There's no way in hell I'd pay an extra $250 for shipping or lift gate!!
I don't know if they come with oil or not. It might be helpful to drain the pump if you lay it down. Or at least let it sit upright for a while before you fire it up and check the oil level.
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Thanks Dave for the encouragement.
Can anyone tell if this 80 gallon CH single might be a good alternative to the HF 2-stage?
http://www.lowes.com/pd_292655-1126-DP5810-Q_0__?productId=3111463
Can anyone tell if this 80 gallon CH single might be a good alternative to the HF 2-stage?
http://www.lowes.com/pd_292655-1126-DP5810-Q_0__?productId=3111463
HF 60 is a BelAire under the label?? Wow, didn't know.
softailgarage
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I bought a used 60 gallon Husky (Home Depot) for 300.00, new they go for about 500.00. I have no complaints, plenty of power, CFM's, no problems. You don't always have to spend a fortune, they all do the same thing.
I sell the 216v or 6061v often enough, but our wholesale price is barely lower than http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/BelAire-6061V-Air-Compressor/p4745.html Belaire is a great company and good people there.
I know Quincy has a great reputation but I don't need it to last 30,000 hours, just need it a couple years to finish my projects and then move on to something else. I'm retired so I'm looking for something quiet, strong and a good 2-3 year warranty that will be honored.
I also don't like Quincy since it requires me to buy an additional $150 kit for them to then charge me even more money for a 5 year warranty on top of the premium they already charge for the compressor alone. I believe that if their products are that good, they should warranty them for 5 years at no extra cost. My 2 cents.
I also don't like Quincy since it requires me to buy an additional $150 kit for them to then charge me even more money for a 5 year warranty on top of the premium they already charge for the compressor alone. I believe that if their products are that good, they should warranty them for 5 years at no extra cost. My 2 cents.
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If you aren't going to sandblast with it yes, but one of your requirements was "long lasting" and if you operate this or any other compressor continuously at the limit of its duty cycle the long lasting part gets a little iffy.
I am going to sandblast and paint so I guess I am back to the drawing board.
This $999 CH is a 4 cylinder single stage that claims to flow 16 cfm like a 2-stage and the price is good. Should I skip this and stay with a true 2-stage?
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-TQ3104-Air-Compressor/p7630.html
Also do I really need more than 140psi? I am confused as to what produces the torque for removing bolts, is it the CFM or the psi?
I've had many oil-less compressors (Husky Craftsman etc) ranging from a 2 gallon hotdog to 33 gallons but never had a restoration body off project on this scale that will also include a ****** swap from auto to 5sp so help is appreciated.
My garage has only very basic tools so after getting the compressor, then I am heading over to the tools sections for recommendations there.
Guess I am on a shopping spree but on a budgetDon't know anything about that compressor except to say 16 cfm should be adequate for what you intend if the sandblasting is only done on occasion.
Not a compressor expert but 2 stage is generally considered more efficient. Common air tools are usually rated at between 90 and 120 psi max operating pressure. However the higher pressure that a 2 stage achieves gives you more storage capacity of air above those max operating pressures giving you more continuous use between cycles. As a result the 2 stage compressor cycles less often over the course of it's life and would theoretically last longer. It also does not put as much heat into the compressed air as a single stage.
The general rules of thumb are that you can never have too much air and buy the best/highest cfm compressor you can afford. 2 stage is a bonus IMO.
Maybe someone with more knowledge will chime in.
Not a compressor expert but 2 stage is generally considered more efficient. Common air tools are usually rated at between 90 and 120 psi max operating pressure. However the higher pressure that a 2 stage achieves gives you more storage capacity of air above those max operating pressures giving you more continuous use between cycles. As a result the 2 stage compressor cycles less often over the course of it's life and would theoretically last longer. It also does not put as much heat into the compressed air as a single stage.
The general rules of thumb are that you can never have too much air and buy the best/highest cfm compressor you can afford. 2 stage is a bonus IMO.
Maybe someone with more knowledge will chime in.
Chadwilliam1
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I am going to sandblast and paint so I guess I am back to the drawing board.
This $999 CH is a 4 cylinder single stage that claims to flow 16 cfm like a 2-stage and the price is good. Should I skip this and stay with a true 2-stage?
http://www.aircompressorsdirect.com/Campbell-Hausfeld-TQ3104-Air-Compressor/p7630.html
Also do I really need more than 140psi? I am confused as to what produces the torque for removing bolts, is it the CFM or the psi?
I've had many oil-less compressors (Husky Craftsman etc) ranging from a 2 gallon hotdog to 33 gallons but never had a restoration body off project on this scale that will also include a ****** swap from auto to 5sp so help is appreciated.
My garage has only very basic tools so after getting the compressor, then I am heading over to the tools sections for recommendations there.
It is highly unlikely you will need anything over 140 I rarely adjust my regulator above 100. CFM and PSI both will affect the power of the impact. For instance a 1/4 hose will restrict flow and cause the impact to feel week it doesn’t matter if the if the compressor is a 400 gallon 100 CFM unit. Even if it was turned up to 150 psi because it wont get enough flow to keep up with the air usage. If you switch that hose it to a 3/8 or a 1/2 hose and the right couplings the impact will draw the CFM it needs. Cranking the pressure over 90 will help the impact but it also hard on the impacts.
makgreens
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I can vouch for my Puma...havent had it more than a few months but I've used the **** out of it and was worth the money
I bought a 60 gallon 15 years ago at Home Depot for $400 and still have it. It was made in Ohio and haven't had any issues whatsoever. I also change the oil in it with the proper oil and wash the air filter and let it fully dry, just as the directions state before using it.
http://t.homedepot.com/p/Husky-60-Gal-Stationary-Electric-Air-Compressor-c601h/203187350/
My next one will be the 80 gallon.
http://t.homedepot.com/p/Husky-80-G...tage-Electric-Air-Compressor-C801H/203187346/
Either of those should be fine without breaking the bank......
http://t.homedepot.com/p/Husky-60-Gal-Stationary-Electric-Air-Compressor-c601h/203187350/
My next one will be the 80 gallon.
http://t.homedepot.com/p/Husky-80-G...tage-Electric-Air-Compressor-C801H/203187346/
Either of those should be fine without breaking the bank......
94yj
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with what you will be doing i would only be looking at a 2 stage compressor otherwise the 1 stage will be running all the time
Which Puma do you have?
atikovi
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Not sure where Ingersoll Rand compressors are made but I see their high capacity towable models on construction sites pretty often. That tells you something about their quality. I'd buy their small units just for the cachet the name carries. Right now I have a Sears Craftsman 60 gallon 175 psi oil-less model bought 4 years ago. Never had any problems and I use it almost every day. Cost under $600.
I probably have the same black Cman Professional compressor as you. I bought mine about ten years ago. While mine has been relatively trouble free, I don't think I would buy another oil-less compressor.
Whatever compressor you buy, I'll make this suggestion. Replace the crappy petcock drain on the bottom with a street elbow, ****** and ball valve for the drain or buy one of the kits.
atikovi
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Why not oil-less if you have 10 years of good service? One less thing to maintain. And I only drain tank every few months. Just a few ounces come out each time so the notice to drain every day seems excessive.
Mach5
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That's a good suggestion. My CMan compressor isn't an oilless model. It's the black one and I've had it for about 6 years.
My dad bought one of the Cman oil less (sealed?) units back in the late 80s. Burned it up in about a month. He replaced it with the same size Campbell Hausfeld that he's had since. The CH is oiled. The moral of the story I took: Don't get oilless.
Anyway back on the Cman 60 - So it seems at least three of us have them and think they are alright.
But it also looks like we've all had ours for a while so we may not be able to speak to the quality of the models currently on sale.
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My dad bought one of the Cman oil less (sealed?) units back in the late 80s. Burned it up in about a month. He replaced it with the same size Campbell Hausfeld that he's had since. The CH is oiled. The moral of the story I took: Don't get oilless.
Anyway back on the Cman 60 - So it seems at least three of us have them and think they are alright.
But it also looks like we've all had ours for a while so we may not be able to speak to the quality of the models currently on sale.
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atikovi
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Maybe the newer ones have part's made in China?
Mine seems to create alot of heat when it runs, more than a few of the regular compressors owned by some buddies. Hopefully, I won't have to replace it for a long time.
As far as the drain goes, all it takes is a little rust **** to get in the drain to make it hard to open/close. A ball valve is so much easier.
cashishift
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Oil Less is far too loud.
atikovi
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I got mine in the basement with an air line coupler outlet on an outside wall. Can't hear it when I'm working in the driveway. When I'm inside I use ear protection.
Yeah I was looking at this oil less Husky 33 gal for inder $300, but then I caught the 60+ gallon, two-stage bug here in GJ for an extra $1000.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-33...c-Air-Compressor-C331H/203995169?N=5yc1vZc27p
Now I am just looking for the best model with a good price and warranty. The HF model has only 90 days and for it to be worth it, I'd have to get it locally for $860 incl tax. If they ship it to my house, then it costs $1,087 with freight and liftgate.
For the same $1087, I can get an official Belaire / Chicago Pneumatic that includes delivery with lift gate and a 2 year bumper to bumper warranty.
decisions, decisions
Which Quincy are we talking about, the 260lb, 460lb or the 720lb?
OK definitely getting a ball valve, check!
They sell them in kits but it's too much money for what it is.
http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/campbell-hausfeldreg;-drain-extension-kit
When they clearanced out the same kit but IR brand, they had them for $5. Just go to a big box store or local hwd store and pick up the pieces that you need.
I dunno but the HD 33 gal one above is rated at just 75dB, unfortunately it only puts out 5.1cfm @ 90psi and will need closer to 15cfm for the blast cabinet
Great idea but a better idea for me (wimp here, tho wife wishes I looked like Thor -lol) would be to hire a local moving company and pay $75 for them to do everything.
Good to see all the pieces I will need to get, thanks.
Well bad news, wife saw the Sunday paper sales and decided to put a wrench in the works and wants a new $2,000 refrigerator and a $500 dish washing machine. There goes most of my $3000 restoration budget. Maybe next year . . .