I finally got a compressor

Remi · Jan 20, 2006

Came home from work to see this in my garage. It's a QTSV-45-60-1 phase. I aranged everything over the phone, so this was the first time I actualy got to see it. It will be a little while till I get to use it. Have to run wiring for it and bolt it to the slab.

Thanks to everyone on this forum. Found allot of usefull info here. I picked this compressor mostly because of great suggestions on this forum.

bmwpower · Jan 20, 2006

Looks beautiful.

z28toz06 · Jan 20, 2006

details! How much, where did you get it? Don't make us pull it out of you!

RonBou · Jan 20, 2006

Conratulations. Every garage needs a compressor. Good looking one too.

AdamMopar · Jan 20, 2006

Nice you will be happy with that. Adam

nbaff · Jan 20, 2006

that thing sure is blue!

nice score

eschoendorff · Jan 20, 2006

Geez... and I even like the color! What a beautiful machine!!!!! :beer:

bmwpower · Jan 20, 2006

Fire that bad boy up!

krooser · Jan 20, 2006

YOU BOUGHT THE WRONG ONE...WE SAID "CINCY" NOT QUINCY!!!!!!

hahaha

Charles (in GA) · Jan 20, 2006

bmwpower said:
Fire that bad boy up!

Break it in properly.............. Most compressors come with written run in procedures. Generally, about 30 to 45 minutes under no load (tank outlet valve open). Only after that should you close the valve and build up pressure. The rings need seating in this just like any engine would.

Charles

l_bilyk · Jan 20, 2006

Charles (in GA) said:
Break it in properly.............. Most compressors come with written run in procedures. Generally, about 30 to 45 minutes under no load (tank outlet valve open). Only after that should you close the valve and build up pressure. The rings need seating in this just like any engine would.

Charles

You do know that cylinder pressure is what seats the rings, right?

Remi · Jan 21, 2006

Thanks guys

I will be breaking it in tommorow hopefully. I'm halfway done wiring the compressor. Pulling 10 guage wire in a finished garage sure *****. Tomorow I have a friend coming over to help me finish the wiring, and to bolt this thing down to the slab.

The quincy manual suggests running the compressor for an hour at 80psi to break it in. And thats just what I'm going to do.

In the end after taxes I paid $1800 CND. I got it from national process equipment www.natpro.com

Here are all the machine specs.
http://www.quincycompressor.com/products/?cat=Products&sub=3&subsub=10

krooser: damn, I totaly thought there was a "Q" in there. Ohh well, I guess I'l have to live with this one.

AdamMopar · Jan 21, 2006

That is strange. My Quincy was one hour all valves open. Mine is a different model though.

Good luck. Adam

bmwpower · Jan 21, 2006

Maybe it's me, but how do you run the compressor at 80psi for one hour?

Remi · Jan 21, 2006

It says it the manual to adjust the drain valve until the tank is at 80psi.

gb387 · Jan 21, 2006

Remi said:
Thanks guys

I will be breaking it in tommorow hopefully. I'm halfway done wiring the compressor. Pulling 10 guage wire in a finished garage sure *****. Tomorow I have a friend coming over to help me finish the wiring, and to bolt this thing down to the slab.

Very nice compressor! Bolting down, I had a "compressor guy" (sells Quincy) tell me that you should never bolt a compressor down. Stating over time the tank could crack, true or not?

Remi · Jan 21, 2006

True, your not really sopposed to bolt it tight.

I bought 4 isolator pads for the compressor. I'm going to bolt it through the isolator pads, along with a rubber washer between bolt head and foot flange. And only tight enough to keep the compressor from tipping.

gb387 · Jan 21, 2006

Remi said:
True, your not really sopposed to bolt it tight.

I bought 4 isolator pads for the compressor. I'm going to bolt it through the isolator pads, along with a rubber washer between bolt head and foot flange. And only tight enough to keep the compressor from tipping.

Ok, that makes sense. Thanks!

kartracer55 · Jan 21, 2006

I dont know about the tank cracking but It may crack your foundation and it will sure as hell make the place shake!! Mine is mounted to 4x4s with lag bolts... We wanted to get it up of the ground a bit more because its in the back corner o the garage and when we get heavy rain we may get an inch or two of water so This keeps it off the ground. I heard another guy used Hockey pucks as well

Jim

krooser · Jan 21, 2006

I've got my IMC sitting on a rubber mudflap....

JohnZ · Jan 21, 2006

Remi said:
True, your not really sopposed to bolt it tight.

I bought 4 isolator pads for the compressor. I'm going to bolt it through the isolator pads, along with a rubber washer between bolt head and foot flange. And only tight enough to keep the compressor from tipping.

I mounted mine on car body-mount cushions - much quieter, no stress on the components.

W-Cummins · Jan 22, 2006

I would not bolt it to the floor either. You can get some nice shock/antivibration machine mounts from use-enco.com (Mathason<SP?> brand) They have them on sale allmost every month for the weight of your machine about 8 bux each.

I too had a quincy compressor like that, but I did some thing bad to it. It was dirty so I sprayed it with some cleaner called purple power and it molted allmost all its paint I guess the upside was after it molted it grew a little larger!

bmwpower · Jan 22, 2006

So all you guys that do NOT have it bolted to the floor, you're not afraid of it tipping over?

W-Cummins · Jan 22, 2006

Well not really, but I just looked and the original poster is in BC so they have earthquakes and that might be cause to bolt it down. The upright models are more top heavy but most are stable. on my little 80 gal 5 hp upright I never even removed it from the pallet. You would have to hit it with a car or some thing to turn it over. The Quincy is a beast the pump weighs about as much as a small block chevy and the fool I got it from actually did tip it over and did some damage to it when they moved it. When sitting on the floor I would have to hit it with a truck or the backhoe to knock it over.

kartracer55 · Jan 22, 2006

Nah, Im not worried. I lean on mine all the time. They are top heavy but It takes a ton of force to actually tip the thing. When ours was delivered, we managed to get it off the pallet with 3 guys, an engine hoist and 2 car jacks (a whole 'nother story) but It only took 2 of us to "walk" over to its final resting place. One pushes and the other pulls and we sort of walked it. It always wants to go back to standing, but if you push it too far theres no stopping it from falling. Youve got a few hundred pounds all the way at the top. Dont forget though. The tanks legs are kind of designed to support the thing too.

Jim

Remi · Jan 22, 2006

Well it's all bolted now. Hooked up and running. Got it settled down at 80psi. The hissing from the drain valve is pretty laud so I only go in there every 5-10 mins to check things out. Got another 45 mins of breaking in time.

I wonder if at the end I should close the valve and let it go up to cutoff or shut it down let it drain and cool of. And go up to cutoff later on?

kartracer55 · Jan 22, 2006

Its been running for an hour, whats another minute or two to get it to shut of pressure? the only thing Id consider is that the pump is probably pretty warm at that point so you might get some moisture in the air. Its your cdall, I wouldnt thing IT would matter either way

Jim

Remi · Jan 22, 2006

There is little wisps of smoke comming out of the oil breather. Wonder if this is normal.

kartracer55 · Jan 22, 2006

Remi said:
There is little wisps of smoke comming out of the oil breather. Wonder if this is normal.

Well Is it smoke or just a fine mist of oil? The breathers Job is to relieve pressure in the lower end of the pump... If theres oil misting out, the little element inside might be saturated. If its easy to get apart, take a look. Id probably email them though just to be sure.

We had a big discussion about oil breathers on a mustang forum and somebody stated they have nothing more than kotex pads :wtf:

haha

Id still email them

Jim

Remi · Jan 22, 2006

It's smoke. But the temperature of the pump is holding steady for the last 20 mins so I think it's alright.

krooser · Jan 22, 2006

Hell the fire departments just a few digits away....

Remi · Jan 22, 2006

Well I let it cool down after the break in run. Run it again up tp pressure. Everything is working fine.

Here are some pics of the compressor installed.

The hose running to the regulator (out of picture). Is a bit of a temporary setup. in the summer I will move the compressor outside to a concrete slab on the side of the house. I will build a little shed for the compressor and hardline it into the garage.

As to bolting it in. The 2 nuts are jamed againts each other. There is very little pressure againts the feet. Hopefull that and the rubber washers will keep the feet from cracking. Also what you can't see in the picture are some large washers I used as shims betweent he isolator pads and the feet to keep the compressor level.

Charles (in GA) · Jan 22, 2006

l_bilyk said:
Break it in properly.............. Most compressors come with written run in procedures. Generally, about 30 to 45 minutes under no load (tank outlet valve open). Only after that should you close the valve and build up pressure. The rings need seating in this just like any engine would.

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You do know that cylinder pressure is what seats the rings, right?

Well, actually, I've only had to break in two new compressors of my own in my lifetime, and both of them (2 hp, 12 gal, 100 psi Craftsman portable 30 years ago, and a 7.5 hp C-H/Husky two stage, 80 gal in 2003) and both of them said to run with NO load on the pump, all valves open. I just dug out to manuals to confirm my poor memory. I also helped a friend run wiring and such in his garage several years ago for a portable 240v Quincy and it too said to run under no load for breakin.

I too would expect to need some cylinder pressure to seat the rings, but possibly there is more pressure in the cylinders than you realize, dunno, just what the manuals say.

Charles

G M · Jan 22, 2006

Where did you get those rubber pads? Are they specifically made for that purpose?

I hope to be getting my Ingersoll Rand compressor delivered this week, I plan on putting it up in the attic and I would like to do anything I can to cut down on any vibrations it will make.

l_bilyk · Jan 22, 2006

kartracer55 said:
I dont know about the tank cracking but It may crack your foundation and it will sure as hell make the place shake!! Mine is mounted to 4x4s with lag bolts... We wanted to get it up of the ground a bit more because its in the back corner o the garage and when we get heavy rain we may get an inch or two of water so This keeps it off the ground. I heard another guy used Hockey pucks as well

Jim

I used hockey pucks too.

Remi · Jan 22, 2006

G M said:
Where did you get those rubber pads? Are they specifically made for that purpose?

I hope to be getting my Ingersoll Rand compressor delivered this week, I plan on putting it up in the attic and I would like to do anything I can to cut down on any vibrations it will make.

Yeah I think they are. I got them delivered with the compressor when I bought it. They were about $6 CND each.

l_bilyk · Jan 22, 2006

Charles (in GA) said:
Well, actually, I've only had to break in two new compressors of my own in my lifetime, and both of them (2 hp, 12 gal, 100 psi Craftsman portable 30 years ago, and a 7.5 hp C-H/Husky two stage, 80 gal in 2003) and both of them said to run with NO load on the pump, all valves open. I just dug out to manuals to confirm my poor memory. I also helped a friend run wiring and such in his garage several years ago for a portable 240v Quincy and it too said to run under no load for breakin.

I too would expect to need some cylinder pressure to seat the rings, but possibly there is more pressure in the cylinders than you realize, dunno, just what the manuals say.

Charles

Well that's strange. But it explains why they said to run it at 80 PSI for an hours.

Charles (in GA) · Jan 22, 2006

bmwpower said:
So all you guys that do NOT have it bolted to the floor, you're not afraid of it tipping over?

Well, I WAS concerned about toppling mine, and I didn't want to bolt it down, and considered it too redneckish to leave it on a pallet (sorry 'bout that for you'all with your compressors on pallets) so I fabricated a stand, 4 ft across of 2x3 tubing 1/8 wall thickness, that I had left from a project (I needed the welding.... and grinding.... practice

) The feet are machinery feet from MSC, they were the only reasonable priced ones they had, around $8 each. Note the street ell, pipe, ball valve and hose to drain the tank. I plan on moving the compressor, is why I didn't want to bolt down and this also allows for easy sweeping/cleaning under it. Its easily leveled.

Charles

eschoendorff · Jan 22, 2006

Dang, Charles! Simple, elegant engineering there! :thumbup:

kartracer55 · Jan 22, 2006

WOW! nice job on the stand Charles!! Oh yeah, is that an Eaton I see?

Jim

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