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deerhunter496

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I pulled this vise out of a scrap pile at an auction. I do not know if it is some kind of special purpose vise, or if just a design for the time period. It works great. I plan on selling it, but have no idea what its worth. No markings, just an 1879 patent date. Thanks in advance.
 

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could be a wood vise, but the way it mounts is very unique for all the wood vises I've seen. nice looking vise and don't throw it back in the scrap pile.

are you planning on keeping or selling it? you'll need to get a 100 posts under your belt which is fairly easy if you ask good questions or give input where you know the answers and then you can post this kind of stuff in the classifieds if you want to sell it. or if you are in the Pacific NW please PM (private messaging through Garage Journal and I might consider buying it).

also looks like you are a new member so welcome to the journal.
 
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That does bear some resemblance to a "Pattern Makers" vise. It certainly looks like it had a tilt feature. I'm leaning toward it having had some particular manufacturing use given the fact that you can only work off the ends and not across the full width. I wouldn't get in a big hurry to sell until you find out more about it as it may be more valuable than you think.
 
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Thank you everyone. I think I'll hang on to this for a while to see if it has any value.
I posted in another section before I checked this. I apologize for the double post.
 
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I see that now that you mention it. Thank you. I looked up the patent in the Directory of American Tool and Machinery Patents, http://www.datamp.org/patents/search/advance.php?pn=214907&id=40701&set=8, and under manufacturer, it reads that it was issued the patent, but not known to be produced. So, I'm assuming that there arent many of these around. I appreciate the you guys finding the info for me. I just need to find a value for it. I apologize again for posting twice.
 
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Here is the safe way to find the value of your vise (and get ALL of the money):

Take really high quality pics, 800x600 or higher resolution, put it on ebay for a 10 day auction, starting on a Thursday at ~10:30PM Eastern time for maximum exposure (this will cause the vise auction to end on a Sunday at 10:30 PM - ebay's peak time) - if you are not an established seller on ebay with a feedback of at least 50 at 100% satisfied, then have a friend list it who is. Include the links to the patent info. in the auction listing.

Start the auction at $1 with no reserve, don't worry, it won't sell for $1, but instead, every vise collector on earth who would pay big bucks for this vise knows about ebay and checks ebay nearly daily and will see it, especially with the low price, and with everyone in the world with potential interest seeing it and bidding on it due to the $1 starting bid, a frenzy will ensue and cause every more attention to it, the auction will get the ebay "hot" flame symbol and the auction will end with a price that is absolutely all it is worth, as every deep pocketed vise collector will have seen it!

Remember, the definition of what something is worth is what someone will actually pay. This is what makes ebay sold items the most accurate appraisal service on earth!

Source: I have used this method to get record prices for a number of collectibles on ebay :)
 
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If you want to find a 'value', remember, 'market value' is what a buyer is willing to pay.

List it on ebay, with a too-high 'reserve price', and see what bids are offered.

That will tell you its actual 'market value'. (unless two bidders get 'auction fever', that is.)

cheers

Carla
 
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Thanks guys. I am an Ebay member with 799 feedback with 100% satisfaction. I have bought and sold many vises, but this one threw me for a loop. Just came across it by chance in a scrap pile. I will take your advice and list it this Thursday night. Kind of nervous about it, but I believe what you say. By the way, the vise came from an old farm just outside of Rockford, which is where the guy who designed it is from. Thanks again.
 
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You guys were very helpful, and I wonder if youd help me 1 more time. I'm keeping this vise, but I dont know what kind it is, and I need to know where I can get a new spring for it. I want to mount it on the bench in my barn.
Thank you.
 

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Measure the spring for dia, wire size, and Number of winds, and go to a decent hardware store to see what, if anything, they have close. If not you can order a spring on line from a number of sources.

If it is wound closer, you can usually pull them and get the length you need; you can't do this with a tight wound spring intended for pulling force easily.

What you need ot avoid is too many winds as it could fully close and prevent the vise from closing.
 
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