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53 Craftsman Table Saw Restoration

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55 Craftsman Table Saw Restoration

I picked this up this before I was a member here, but I had lurked for a while and learned all about this type thing, especially these 50s craftsman machines.

I found this ad on craigslist that had been up for almost a month. I somehow missed it when it first went up, but I hadn't been looking for a saw at that time so that makes sense. I emailed the lady and asked if it was available and that I was very interested. I was willing to pay the full $75. She said yes and then without me saying anything(only 2 sentences over email)lowered the price to $50 and really wanted me to take it. :rocker: I wasn't going to haggle her so that was a pleasant surprise! They were moving and really needed it gone, and tried to get me to take a workbench(not very good) too!

I wasn't really planning on documenting it and didn't have a phone then, so here's some ehh photos throughout the resto.
This is it after I got it home and cleaned up the table. It was moderately rusted but a couple hours of scotchbrite and WD-40 scrubbing later it was clean, with some pits.










Disassembly was a bit tough, I didn't have many hand tools and I pulled the trunnion assembly out from underneath the table so I could lift the top off by myself. Accessing the bolts through the front panel was really tough.

I kept the original paint on the trunnion assembly because it wasn't easy to disassemble, was in good shape, wasn't visible really and would be covered in sawdust. I just wire wheeled and sanded all acme threads, bare metal and cleaned off the caked sawdust.

Next was on to the pedestal and base. I wire wheeled outside with a knotted cup brush and grinder. I used a mask and common sense, staying down wind in case it was lead paint. The paint underneath the base was perfect and not faded, so I left it as is and used it to color match.

The color that worked was Valspar Cobalt Cannon. I used Krylon pro red oxide primer and Rustoleum pro red primer. I prefer the Rustoleum because it seems to cover better. The Krylon dries super fast, almost too fast as it sometimes gets powderlike on the metal. It seems like overpray that comes from a distance dries in the air and forms a crumbly half adhered surface on the metal. It's weird.

The column I decided not to paint the original color and for some reason used some plasticote bedliner I had left over from a camera crane build. It costs a lot(12 bucks at bond) but is super awesome and I buy it for projects I'm paid for. It's not a rough bedliner, but a fine durable black. Once you get down to last 1/3 of the can it started to spray on lighter, almost a gray.

The blade wrench I primed and painted cobalt cannon for accent, and then used a magnet to stick it to the column.

I'll start posting some pictures of it done, so you can see what I'm talking about, and because your probably getting bored.





the colors of the pics in the basement are off, but the garage ones are pretty accurate.
 
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Beautiful . . . Red Leader in Colorado will be proud !! [emoji106]

See his thread about Craftsman saws he has restored.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103099&highlight=craftsman+garage
He was the reason I bought it. I stumbled across that thread somehow and read the whole thing in 2 days. I can say that you, nine, Jake, red and everybody on this site is the sole cause of my beginning tool addiction. Now that I think of it, I never had an interest in absurdly large vises or block grinders before...
 

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Yours looks really, really nice and you did an amazing job. I refinished one of those for a guy in my area so I know the amount of work you put into this. Your work looks stunning and I can't wait to see more photos. Great job!
 

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Thanks! If you do don't think twice about buying it. Miles better than any modern contractor saw and an easy project. I was considering a link belt but it whirrs quietly on the original bearing and passes the nickel test. In terms of taking it apart I used 2 screwdrivers and 3 wrench sizes and as a pretty mechanically inclined 14 year old finished it in 2 weeks!

I went to looking and this is what I found so far.




I dont know how old it is or if it even works. I will be driving by there Friday so thought I would call about it then
 
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Okay, as promised I said I would go over some more details on it. I'm really kicking myself for not taking more pictures as I did it, but I figure even just some quick notes will be helpful if not entertaining.

For paint stripping of the whole sheet metal body I used Jasco heavy duty aerosol paint stripper from lowes. I decided to use that after I thought of the lead paint possibility and didn't want to wire wheel that whole surface area. It's incredibly nasty stuff, and in hindsight I would wire wheel all I could and use this for the areas I couldn't reach. I sprayed on the jasco in the shade so it wouldn't evaporate, then waited about a minute. The paint became a goopy peeling mess right off and the trick was wiping it off before it dried, but not wiping paint with the dirty paper towel. Each area took multiple applications and almost a whole roll of shop towels. After that hit the remaining dried residue with a sanding sponge.
 
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Okay, now on to some quick odds and ends.

For the chrome, I was lucky. It was cloudy and grimey, but not pitted. Some #0000 steel wool and pb blaster is the best way to clean It up. Mothers polish makes chrome polish but I have not tried it. I think their metal polish is the best stuff on earth so their chrome stuff must be good too. Do not mess with chrome sanding or wheeling unless you fully understand it. I learned that the hard way on my drill press project. I'm still not done with those knobs.

Also do not mess with the badges or engine turned jeweling with anything abrasive. Simple green and a rag will remove grime but not the engine turning. Same goes for badges.


There are many aluminum and pot metal parts on these, and they do get tarnished and dirty. Some examples are the fence, fence guide rails and miter gauge. I like to hit them with a medium then fine sanding block then scotchbrite. They don't have to shine or anything but I like the even dullish way they look after being thoroughly sanded.
 
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Here is the switch it came with. It's a GE SB-9 8 stage with a locking brass/bronze? handle. According to the website this particular 8 stage one is meant for being turned on thousands of times a week in heavy industry and can handle 650 volts 250 amps for 3 seconds at startup. As somebody who doesn't even have 220 this just boggles my mind. It has 4 sets of contacts and rotates each startup to spread wear among contacts evenly.











Something else I found interesting. The motor is very heavy and large for it's 1 Hp size because it is not a standard capacitor start induction run motor, but rather a repulsion start induction run motor. This means it actually has carbon brushes that jump it to speed then it quietly runs like an efficient ac motor does. I wasn't able to get it apart to learn more about it but the wiring is solid and it has access doors for the brushes so i'm good.
 
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I can say that you, nine, Jake, red and everybody on this site is the sole cause of my beginning tool addiction. Now that I think of it, I never had an interest in absurdly large vises or block grinders before...

Welcome to the family. There are a good number of us here for the same reason(s). RedLeader's garage was my first link to Garage Journal. Beautiful job on the table saw and thanks for sharing details on the switch. I love old devises like that.
 

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Man, get a decent 15A toggle, and either save that monster switch for something that needs it, or sell it and probably get the saw for free (and then some)

Was that for real? you are just 14? if so I'm even MORE impressed with the work you have done with this saw so far!
 
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I went to looking and this is what I found so far.




I dont know how old it is or if it even works. I will be driving by there Friday so thought I would call about it then
It looks to be an 8 inch saw and doesn't have any table extensions. It would depend on the price, as its not in the best shape. Depending on what you want to use it for it could be a great little saw fixed up though. Looks to be maybe 60s from the bronze color, although I'm sure somebody could tell you a lot more.
 
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Man, get a decent 15A toggle, and either save that monster switch for something that needs it, or sell it and probably get the saw for free (and then some)

Was that for real? you are just 14? if so I'm even MORE impressed with the work you have done with this saw so far!
I found a cheap red button switch I'll put on it. Part of me says sell it but it's so cool and I doubt I'll ever find another. I have a couple other things to flip right now and will decide later.
 
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Man, get a decent 15A toggle, and either save that monster switch for something that needs it, or sell it and probably get the saw for free (and then some)

Was that for real? you are just 14? if so I'm even MORE impressed with the work you have done with this saw so far!
Oh and yeah, 15 now actually haha. I love just working on machines and learning about them. I like to always have a woodworking project or something to always think about. As you would imagine the lack of a license puts a damper on some sweet deals, but having all this time makes up for it.

Thank you very much for the compliment, it means a lot!
 

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As I had observed previously, Scimonetti you ARE way ahead of your time !! :thumbup:

At 15 you are impressing us all again. :rocker:

Simply AWESOME result on the restored Craftsman. I'd say keep it until you find and restore one that's actually better . . . akin to RedLeader !! ;) That way you'll always have a lifetime keeper C-Man saw in your stable.

Maybe you'll find a buddy at school whose dad has large woodworking shop and you can "share the GJ bug" and eventually sell the C-Man saw to him once you've found another. It would be nice that your work ends up with someone who'll keep the saw long-term as a lifetime keeper.

Again, kudos to your hard work . . . it shows !!
 
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As I had observed previously, Scimonetti you ARE way ahead of your time !! [emoji106]

At 15 you are impressing us all again. :rocker:

Simply AWESOME result on the restored Craftsman. I'd say keep it until you find and restore one that's actually better . . . akin to RedLeader !! ;) That way you'll always have a lifetime keeper C-Man saw in your stable.

Maybe you'll find a buddy at school whose dad has large woodworking shop and you can "share the GJ bug" and eventually sell the C-Man saw to him once you've found another. It would be nice that your work ends up with someone who'll keep the saw long-term as a lifetime keeper.

Again, kudos to your hard work . . . it shows !!
Thanks! The selling part was actually about the switch. I plan on keeping the saw for a long time, but if I ever see a similar one I'll grab it, restore it and flip it.
 
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Oh to find stuff today made with the quality and durability back in the day when that stuff was made. Say what you will about the Craftsman brand, but back in those days, their products were much more substantial and durable than what you see today.

I really like the stand this saw is mounted to. Too many vintage tools are being scrapped or tossed out because those who possess them don't really understand their real value. If something gets a bit rusty or dirty, it must be no good in their minds.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I am still dreaming about having a full-sized shop when I grow up...probably won't happen, but still can't kill a dream!
 

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:beer:That is a great restoration of a great collectible saw. Well done.:beer:
 
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Oh to find stuff today made with the quality and durability back in the day when that stuff was made. Say what you will about the Craftsman brand, but back in those days, their products were much more substantial and durable than what you see today.

I really like the stand this saw is mounted to. Too many vintage tools are being scrapped or tossed out because those who possess them don't really understand their real value. If something gets a bit rusty or dirty, it must be no good in their minds.

Thanks for sharing your experience. I am still dreaming about having a full-sized shop when I grow up...probably won't happen, but still can't kill a dream!
Couldn't have said it better myself. Walked into sears the other day and was shocked at what people will pay 275 for
 

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Thats awesome work for any age but soo much better being as you are 15! Good job! Keep it up
 

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Looks great. Does it run?? Did you replace bearings and take the end bells off the motor?? Motors fill with saw dust even tho nominally closed. Bearings are cheap, motors are not. Some of those old Craftsman saws are hard to find motors for.
 
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There's a model 100 one town over for cheap! Great chrome and 2 cast extensions plus original blade guard/splitter. Tomorrow morning I'm also picking up a jointer though... Ugh tough decisions. Anybody want to talk me out of it?

Edit, 2 knobs appear to be missing little knobs and faceplate cutout is wonky. I'll see if its still up in a week and make an offer
 
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Looks great. Does it run?? Did you replace bearings and take the end bells off the motor?? Motors fill with saw dust even tho nominally closed. Bearings are cheap, motors are not. Some of those old Craftsman saws are hard to find motors for.
It runs great. I tried to remove the end bells but could easily, so I just blew it out with compressed air. The internal wiring was great though
 

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I have that saw. It's a good saw just working. I gave up restoring tools but I will clean, lube them and adjust. If you don't need to use a 10" blade for the work you have, don't. Save it for when you do and use a high quality 8 1/4" blade. You can still rip 2 x materials and you won't believe the accuracy.
 

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There's a model 100 one town over for cheap! Great chrome and 2 cast extensions plus original blade guard/splitter. Tomorrow morning I'm also picking up a jointer though... Ugh tough decisions. Anybody want to talk me out of it?

Edit, 2 knobs appear to be missing little knobs and faceplate cutout is wonky. I'll see if its still up in a week and make an offer

If its cheap enough, grab it. You can use one of the extensions on your saw to balance it. Then after a quick cleaning, or a restoration, you can sell the 100 for a profit and have a free extension out of the deal.
 
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Darn, just realized the wings are different sizes. Oh well, still a great deal. This might change what I decide to do with it.
 

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I know this is an old thread, but I just picked up one of these saws last week! 113.27520 and it starts smoother than my dads craftsman from the late 80s. the bearings are still very tight and all the adjustment wheels turn smoothly. the old man I bought it from took good care of it for the last 40 years.


I'll be using this saw as my full time workhorse, so *blasphemy alert*, I'll be building a modern base for it, replacing the cast extension with an extended tabletop (with router), and throwing a Shop Fox aluma-classic standard length fence on it. (all that will be in a separate thread)..

the new finish on Scimotti's saw looks awesome.. I might just have to see what I can come up with in refinishing mine..
 
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