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The short of it is that my garage collapsed under heavy snowload and I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with this in terms of what I can expect from the insurance company. So far they offered me replacement cost minus depreciation, minus shipping and no debris removal allotment, loss of use allotment, labor to rebuild etc.. allotment, and no allotment for the time I had to spend shoveling the snow off of it and jacking it up so I could access my stuffs. fwiw. They even sent out a check to settle the claim for the cost of the structure, minus depreciation and not including shipping to acquire a replacement. So I was somewhat offended by this seeing as I spent several full days digging out and jacking up, and my paint on my plow, snowblower and leaf machine were all damaged to include scratches along with misc.. other damages which he allotted me $200 total compensation for. LOL

That is the short of it. Here's the longer of it.

In mid november we had a horrendous snow event dropping about 9ft of snow on us in a two days time. In the process, my fabric garage hoop structure shelter whatever you want to call it collapsed to the ground. This was in spite of me removing the snowload the first afternoon. fwiw. I always remove the snow from the fabric garage every time I do snow removal, just for safety's sake. Very religious about it/doing so. Unfortunately, so much snow came down overnight the following night that it was collapsed by morning.

So, now the question is about insurance. I have insurance through a major company. I decided to make a claim in spite of the $1k deductible because the fabric shelter is a $2500 building and almost $3k when shipping, anchors etc... are figured in. I contacted the company and they sent out an adjuster. I showed him the shelter, which at that point was "jacked back up" because I had to create access to all my snow removal gear which got crushed inside in the collapse. It was 10 days or so before the adjust actually could get out to us, and I was really worried about continued snow and not wanting to clear another boondoggle snow event with a walk behind snowblower [ second time around with tractor implements buried no thanks ], I wanted to insure access to my real snow removal arsenal. Anyways. While he was there I explained this is not what the structure looked like, I had to jack this back up, put in these timber supports from the peaks of each metal hoop to the floor to hold this up etc.. so I could access my 3pt snowblower, plow for the tractor, leaf machine etc.. Told him this was an absolute b&#ch doing so and that it took me several days of hard work to get that done. He said he would see what he could do to compensate me. He also saw all the scratches and paint chips on my stuff which is all painted very nice as is my way of operating and said he would see about compensating me for that damage as well. Took all the pictures and etc.. you know.

He walks the rest of the property looking for gutter damage etc.. and tells me he sees no damage [ I shoveled the whole roof TOO LOL ] and asks me to send him pictures of the structure as it was after the collapse and also a quote from the manufacturer for the cost/value. Gives me his contact info. Great. Away he goes. So I send out the information the next day, about as quick as I could get it back from the manufacturer. I don't hear back from him until the day before Christmas. At which point in time I also received a letter in the mail with a check for the cost of a smaller structure [ 12' x 8' x 24' vs my own shelter which was 14' x 10' x 24' ], minus the depreciation $200 something and with the allotment of $200 something for the broken stepladder, rake, and misc... paint damage on my implements etc... minus the $1k deductible. So a $1569 or so check in the mail.

So I was looking at this letter, and the attached check, thinking myself "why would they not even include shipping which is clearly stated in the manufacturer quote. And there is no allotment for debris removal, my time spent dealing with the situation, my loss of use including my inability to get my snow removal equipment cause it was all underneath the collapse and on top of it, no allotment for the cost of labor to rebuild the structure.

It would seem to me that all this stuff would apply but I really have no experience with making a claim of this sort. Frankly. I would think before sending out a settlement check on something like this there would/should be more communication/negotiation on what is covered, what is not covered, why that is the case, how, when, why/not etc... Nothing. I get a check in the mail. LOL

I sent off an email explaining I was not happy with the stated settlement and wanted it reviewed again. Mentioning the various listed above. More than a month has passed since the collapse, since I decided to actually contact the insurance company[about 6 days time], for them to get the adjuster out and then for me to hear back from them. Over the course of this time, I have been unable to use my main garage for my car or anything else because the tractor is now parked in there since I can not use the shelter to store that which is/was my purpose for having the shelter. I keep my tractor, implements, lawn mowers and misc out in the shelter.

So I'm frustrated here. Feel like they lowballed me just before Christmas without any communication beforehand to get my inputs/concerns and that they were trying to pull one on me. The wife heard back from the adjuster saying that he made a mistake on the size of the building and that he would review our other concerns and get back to us.

Am I on target here? What should I expect. I had a great fabric garage. I have insurance to cover that garage. Should I not expect the garage to be covered from debris removal, to replacement cost plus shipping, to cost to rebuild the structure? Should I expect my time to be compensated for digging it out and jacking it up to access my stuff? What about my implements that got scratched up? Nothing was seriously damaged cause its all heavy steel stuff but all of it was scratched up. In reality the scratched up is not too big of a deal, its machinery. But, I do have a $1k deductible and that isn't small so not trying to nitpick but every bit helps. Just looking for others opinions here. Having a fire in a garage might give you similar experience to help me. I don't know what to expect and don't wanna get taken beyond the last minute "Christmas check!".

Thanks in advance fellas. :beer:
 
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btw.. sorry in advance for that being my first post. I had been on here a great deal a year or so ago researching garage automotive lifts and there was a vastness of great information which was very helpful to me, but I never did post up anything at that time fwiw. I hope someone here has some experience with this stuff. I tried to do a forum search but had little success.
 

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I see these are your first two posts so welcome to the forum.

I'm sorry to hear about your loss, but I've seen a few of those fabric hoop garages fail under heavy snow and would not expect them to hold up on any real snow .

To be quite honest I'm surprised they gave you anything. If you bought a high end one like shelter logic, you may want to look at thier warranty to see if they could pay anything.

Welcome aboard!

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I'm surprised insurance covered a fabric garage at all
 

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I had a truck drive off the road and through my garage door, through my garage wall and through the front of my house. Insurance didn't cover any of the things you're looking to get paid for. The more time you waste thinking about it the less value that check will have. Cut your losses and move on.
 

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Scratches on plows? Payment for cleanup?!?...:willy_nil...DAYS of work to clean up, really?:eyecrazy:....:dunno: :lol:

sorry it happened, but I have the same setup it sounds like you....(kioti with implements, ExMark walk behind, other various equipment). I never even thought my insurance would cover a temp shelter collapsing under snow up here. I do worry about it happening though, and also clean it every snowfall. Do you have any pics?
 
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Insurance companies pay based on what you have in your policy -- they don't pay for what you think you want or what your neighbor got ... unless it it in the policy or it is the normal way that particular company pays a claim.

You have to read the policy.

Then ....... ask the adjuster what and how they are paying -- and under what portion of the policy they are paying.

If they are not paying for something -- ask why.

The better companies pay for all kinds of thing .. the other don't ... and the time for a claim resolution is all about customer service .. some are much better then others.
 

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I had a truck drive off the road and through my garage door, through my garage wall and through the front of my house. Insurance didn't cover any of the things you're looking to get paid for. The more time you waste thinking about it the less value that check will have. Cut your losses and move on.

I think I know where you live :p
 

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Lots of people having trouble getting payment on the collapse of a permanent roof, let alone a temporary tent.

Best to check with the manufacturer, but if it isn't rated for 7' (or whatever) of snow load, I don't see how your insurance would cover it.

Were you paying a premium / rider on it?
 

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Pick up the phone and call YOUR insurance agent and put him to work,

That being said, I would think they are being quite generous - take the check and have a happy new year. No insurance company is going to pay for many of the things you think they should.

Best of luck
 

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Haha, I know the house you're thinking about. That happened a few weeks after ours, there were several similar incidents in the Fox Valley
 

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Welcome to the forum, CC.

What you will get is whatever is written on the policy you signed and paid for. Read that bad boy closely - you may find you paid a premium (no humor intended) for not much. That's why you need to shop insurance companies, get content coverage as well as structural, and play them off against each other until you get the best deal you can.

That policy will tell you what you should get. I know you're pissed from all the snow damage etc, but if that piece of paper didn't include it, then you're SOL on it. On the other hand, the adjuster may have wanted to close it out by Christmas, and slapped you something hoping you'd settle for it (if you cash the check, it can be construed as full settlement - be careful!) so you might have a case... but... and this is important...

READ THAT POLICY CAREFULLY COVER TO COVER. Dry and dull but it will tell you what's covered.
 

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I've read the post a couple of times. From what I read it sounds like you actually got a generous settlement.
You should cash your check, send your agent a thankyou card, and move on.
 
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I see these are your first two posts so welcome to the forum.

I'm sorry to hear about your loss, but I've seen a few of those fabric hoop garages fail under heavy snow and would not expect them to hold up on any real snow .

To be quite honest I'm surprised they gave you anything. If you bought a high end one like shelter logic, you may want to look at thier warranty to see if they could pay anything.

Welcome aboard!

Chris

Thanks for the welcome gesture.

Shelter Logic, IMO, is not high end anything. My structure is a formal, commercial grade, commercially sold, legitimate unit. None of the manufacturers of fabric garage type structures warrant their products for snow load or even adverse weather conditions as far as I know. fwiw

Not sure why you'd be surprised they are covering anything. My fabric garage is considered a structure on the property. I have insurance to cover damage to structures on the property. The insurance does not cover damage to trees, bushes, and misc.. other things = but structures it covers. Thus, they are obligated to cover my loss. Now... the question again is, what are they obligated to cover?

All this being said, once bitten twice shy. Would I replace the fabric garage with another in this area? I think not at this point in time. AND... I am not obligated to replace the structure with the same type of structure. I can build a pole barn for instance and probably will do so. Just makes more sense for my current needs.

Will fabric garage structures take adverse weather conditions? You bet. But. They need to be built to do so. That means more metal hoops first and foremost. Second, that means more bracing. It would not have been a bad idea to have supports pre fabricated to put in place at the centerline to act as struts at the peaks of the hoops. Wish I had thought of that. I did not desire this failure and its been a real headache. fwiw This was a highly unusual snow event for our area, with unprecedented snow in a short time interval. The structure has lasted a couple years here fine with me removing snow accumulations after each snow event. Takes just a couple minutes with a roof rake basically. Last year was a long and cold and heavy snowfall total year and the fabric structure held up without issues with said MO. :beer:

Bottom line is that it was an economical way to keep my tractor and implements out of the weather. It failed. Unfortunately. And as tends to be the case with these types of things - Murphies Law applies - it failed at the worst possible time. Shrugs. And it only failed due to the heavy overnight snow accumulation which was, even for here, extremely unusual.
 

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Any time you receive a settlement the amount is subjective. Sure, you could argue for more if you substantiate your claim to their satisfaction. They might cough up a few more bucks. You also may get cancelled. Weigh your objectives against the liabilities.

I might have not filed that claim in the first place. But, I'm not you.
 
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I had a truck drive off the road and through my garage door, through my garage wall and through the front of my house. Insurance didn't cover any of the things you're looking to get paid for. The more time you waste thinking about it the less value that check will have. Cut your losses and move on.

Why?
 
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How much money do you want?

How much money would YOU want? Lets say your garage collapsed under snow load. You had a functioning garage. It was there, serving your purposes. Now, it is... LETS SAY>>> NOT. OK? So? How much money would you want? You will have to remove the rubble. Should that be your responsibility? If so, then why do you have insurance? You will have to replace the unit so surely cost of materials applies. They depreciate your structure but I don't see the price of real estate going down. LOL Anyways. I digress.

Now... who is going to rebuild this thing? Doesn't matter if its your thing or my thing. It was there and now its not. It was insured. It needs to be replaced. In modern terms, replacement amounts to a $$$ payout. The insurance company is, at least as far as I know, obligated to pay you for the value of the insured item and the related. If something inside got damaged, they would have to pay. If someone got hurt when it fell, they would probably have to pay.

Furthermore, as far as I know, you, as an insured, are not required to rebuild or replace anything. You are rightfully due a payout for your losses and I do not believe you are required to replace if you decide not to. Just saying. :thumbup:

So how much do I want? What I am rightly justified and not a penny more.

So I ask again, what can I rightfully expect? What I don't expect is to have insurance for my property and to get laughed at. That type of thing ends up in court. What I don't expect is to have to take care of the problem myself, from dismantling, to acquiring[or if so minimal order the new kit etc... Ok.] to rebuilding. If I would be expected to do those things free of charge why have the insurance? Why do YOU have insurance? LOL
 

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Only the best companies will pay you the full cash amount upfront. Replacement ... often is only given once the structure is built. Before that it is -20% or even lower with out full replacement -- they give you depreciation.
 
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I had a truck drive off the road and through my garage door, through my garage wall and through the front of my house. Insurance didn't cover any of the things you're looking to get paid for. The more time you waste thinking about it the less value that check will have. Cut your losses and move on.

OK, so you see why I am asking. I don't want to get done like it sounds like you got done. No offense intended but IMO you were entitled to all those things. But... the caveat is that its up to YOU to make the argument and not to settle for less than you deserve.

I'm on here asking others for their incite and their real life experiences. You gave me some incite here. Thank you. You got done, out of no fault of your own, and it sounds like you shoulda been compensated more.

I sure DO hope you did not stay in that structurally unsound home, putting yourself and family ? at risk of possible collapse for whatever timeframe and not get compensated for loss of use etc... What about your tools, vehicles, furniture, even peace of mind? Surely. ??
 

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I had a somewhat similar situation a number of years ago when snowfall collapsed a 10x10 standalone aluminum storage shed I had in my yard.

All things considered, my insurance company (Allstate) treated me very well, after a bit of discussion. We agreed on a cost for a similar replacement shed, and they provided a reasonable allowance for delivery & assembly costs. They also covered the cost of a few broken pieces on my lawnmower which had been in the shed.

I think the depreciation factor in your case is reasonable, since a fabric structure does have a limited lifespan when compared to one made of wood or metal. But I think it's fair for you to request some compensation for delivery & assembly costs, even if reduced by the same depreciation factor they applied to the structure itself. I'd consider debris removal as sort of a gray area. In the case of fallen trees, for example, in my experience the insurance company will pay to move anything leaning on your house, blocking your driveway, etc., but removal of the leftovers is up to you. In the case of my shed, I hauled the aluminum debris myself to a local recycler & got some $$ for it.

Is there someone you can call at your insurance company? Somewhere, there's a person who made these calculations, whose job is to pay you as little as possible. A logical reasonable conversation may loosen that person up a little. Maybe make a suggestion as to how much you'd be happy with?

Good luck. :beer:
 
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Scratches on plows? Payment for cleanup?!?...:willy_nil...DAYS of work to clean up, really?:eyecrazy:....:dunno: :lol:

sorry it happened, but I have the same setup it sounds like you....(kioti with implements, ExMark walk behind, other various equipment). I never even thought my insurance would cover a temp shelter collapsing under snow up here. I do worry about it happening though, and also clean it every snowfall. Do you have any pics?

When you get 9ft of snow in such a short time it adds incite to accomplishing anything including working on a collapsed structure.

IMO, if I was you, I would immediately take a look at your fabric structure. And this goes for anyone else out there too. First of all, having metal hoops 4 ft wide spacing is too far apart to handle a heavy snowload. I questioned it from day 1. And stupid me for not making it right before it failed. Second, its now my opinion there should be cross braces at a point in the hoops above head level. So purlins should be put in at say 7ft and ties should be installed across the structure to add additional reinforcement. Thirdly, pre making struts to put under even a couple of the middle hoops would be really easy and would make it practically impossible for the structure to collapse. I wish I had thought of these things beforehand instead of trusting the manufacturer to design the building right only to find out they didn't. It might cost a couple hundred in materials to do these things but that is a pittance in the grand scheme of things. Lessons learned. :lol_hitti
 

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Thanks for the welcome gesture.

Shelter Logic, IMO, is not high end anything. My structure is a formal, commercial grade, commercially sold, legitimate unit. None of the manufacturers of fabric garage type structures warrant their products for snow load or even adverse weather conditions as far as I know. fwiw

Not sure why you'd be surprised they are covering anything. My fabric garage is considered a structure on the property. I have insurance to cover damage to structures on the property. The insurance does not cover damage to trees, bushes, and misc.. other things = but structures it covers. Thus, they are obligated to cover my loss. Now... the question again is, what are they obligated to cover?

All this being said, once bitten twice shy. Would I replace the fabric garage with another in this area? I think not at this point in time. AND... I am not obligated to replace the structure with the same type of structure. I can build a pole barn for instance and probably will do so. Just makes more sense for my current needs.

Will fabric garage structures take adverse weather conditions? You bet. But. They need to be built to do so. That means more metal hoops first and foremost. Second, that means more bracing. It would not have been a bad idea to have supports pre fabricated to put in place at the centerline to act as struts at the peaks of the hoops. Wish I had thought of that. I did not desire this failure and its been a real headache. fwiw This was a highly unusual snow event for our area, with unprecedented snow in a short time interval. The structure has lasted a couple years here fine with me removing snow accumulations after each snow event. Takes just a couple minutes with a roof rake basically. Last year was a long and cold and heavy snowfall total year and the fabric structure held up without issues with said MO. :beer:

Bottom line is that it was an economical way to keep my tractor and implements out of the weather. It failed. Unfortunately. And as tends to be the case with these types of things - Murphies Law applies - it failed at the worst possible time. Shrugs. And it only failed due to the heavy overnight snow accumulation which was, even for here, extremely unusual.


I really don't know what commercial grade fabric shelter you have, but it must be more high end than I knew existed. What brand is it??

In my limited experience I thought Shelter Logic was high end after seeing what other people I knew buy. I mostly see people get the harbor freight one and it usually collapses after the first real snow load. I thought yours was in this $200 to $2,000 shelter class and would have been surprised if you got anything.

Since you have a commercial building they are willing to pay, and I guess you have to work with them and the manufacturer to recoupe the most possible.

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Insurance companies pay based on what you have in your policy -- they don't pay for what you think you want or what your neighbor got ... unless it it in the policy or it is the normal way that particular company pays a claim.

You have to read the policy.

Then ....... ask the adjuster what and how they are paying -- and under what portion of the policy they are paying.

If they are not paying for something -- ask why.

The better companies pay for all kinds of thing .. the other don't ... and the time for a claim resolution is all about customer service .. some are much better then others.

Thank you. That is a great, a nice, and a very appreciated response. It makes perfect sense too.

I will sit down and read the policy and it may be enlightening. :beer:

I would think before any company settles any claim they contact the claimant and discuss the settlement, send out documents for review, signoff etc.. before finally issuing a settlement check. At least that is the way I have always seen it done with auto insurance type situations.

I feel like they just sent me a check hoping I'd take the minimum amount offered, say no more, and be on my way. I certainly think the cost of shipping a replacement unit should be covered and that was listed on the quote from the manufacturer so why would they not include that? I had to pay the shipping when I bought it. And have to pay it to replace it. And debris removal and rebuilding shouldn't have to be my responsibility IMHO.

There is always the risk when asking around about stuff like this that noone will have relevant personal experience and be able to help you. Thus, you will be at the mercy of the insurance company. I am fairly sure their profit margins are based heavily on paying out as little as possible. They sure got their premium payments on time every time. LOL

I believe customer service is important and I just might be in the market for a different policy based on how this has gone. The only property insurance claim I ever made. Just paid and paid LOL.
 
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Pick up the phone and call YOUR insurance agent and put him to work,

That being said, I would think they are being quite generous - take the check and have a happy new year. No insurance company is going to pay for many of the things you think they should.

Best of luck

Exactly what is your experience? Have you had a structural collapse? Did your insurance company insist you clean up the rubble? Rebuild the structure yourself?

And were you OK with that? Curious.
 
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Welcome to the forum, CC.

What you will get is whatever is written on the policy you signed and paid for. Read that bad boy closely - you may find you paid a premium (no humor intended) for not much. That's why you need to shop insurance companies, get content coverage as well as structural, and play them off against each other until you get the best deal you can.

That policy will tell you what you should get. I know you're pissed from all the snow damage etc, but if that piece of paper didn't include it, then you're SOL on it. On the other hand, the adjuster may have wanted to close it out by Christmas, and slapped you something hoping you'd settle for it (if you cash the check, it can be construed as full settlement - be careful!) so you might have a case... but... and this is important...

READ THAT POLICY CAREFULLY COVER TO COVER. Dry and dull but it will tell you what's covered.

I will do so and my bad for not having done so. Knowledge is power and if you know nothing you can probably not expect much. Which is why I thought I would ask on here. Seems me the power of the net is to tap into others experiences and all can benefit. That was my hope here. My own belief is that insurance companies will pay out as little as they can get away with. Thank you. :thumbup:
 

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Once you replace the structure, you submit your invoice, your insurance co should then reimburse you for the amount they depreciated it plus any actual costs like shipping etc.

Insurance companies will pay other people or companies to set up or install the replacement structure, but they won't pay you for your work! they won't pay YOU to shovel snow, remove debris, they will deny your labor every time. You can however pay " someone else" wink wink to do this work and they will reimburse you. They will even pay someone to prepare and oversee your claim for you, just not you.

When dealing with insurance companies the key is to document everything! All phone calls, all letters etc. Every penny they don't pay out is profit in there pockets. Good luck
 

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Still waiting on location and make/model/size of shelter, plus pics. Would love to know these details for my own knowledge and experience. We get a ton of snow up here, would love to know what circumstances led to the failure.

I have actually kicked around the idea of bracing mine and using metal roof sheets in place of my tarp material....just not sure as I may just build a run in style structure.
 

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Still waiting on location and make/model/size of shelter, plus pics. Would love to know these details for my own knowledge and experience. We get a ton of snow up here, would love to know what circumstances led to the failure.

I have actually kicked around the idea of bracing mine and using metal roof sheets in place of my tarp material....just not sure as I may just build a run in style structure.

I'll bet a buck that he lives in the Buffalo NY area!

I am also curious about the make and model of his commercial structure.

Chris
 

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OK, so you see why I am asking. I don't want to get done like it sounds like you got done. No offense intended but IMO you were entitled to all those things. But... the caveat is that its up to YOU to make the argument and not to settle for less than you deserve.

I'm on here asking others for their incite and their real life experiences. You gave me some incite here. Thank you. You got done, out of no fault of your own, and it sounds like you shoulda been compensated more.

I sure DO hope you did not stay in that structurally unsound home, putting yourself and family ? at risk of possible collapse for whatever timeframe and not get compensated for loss of use etc... What about your tools, vehicles, furniture, even peace of mind? Surely. ??

This has been a huge issue for me the last 8 months. I've spent more than 15 days of PTO chasing insurance agents and meeting adjusters since the accident. Witihin 45 minutes of the accident I had filed a claim and it took 5.5 days for an adjuster to look at the house.

On the phone making the claim it was explained to me that it could be a while for an adjuster so I was responsible documenting the damage and initial clean up (obviously not what I had planned for Saturday afternoon and Sunday) Luckily the fire department stayed late and a local contractor was able to get the local lumber yard to sell us 15 sheets of plywood and some 2x4's. (The material costs and contractor work was eventually paid for).

Your comment about safety of the home bugs me because for 3 months my garage sat with plywood and a tarp sealing it up against not only the elements but I had major concerns about theft. We lived in the house through out the remodeling but I was more nervous about not being home. Luckily we live in a good and quiet neighborhood.

A few things i have learned are that my personal time is not recoverable. I went as far as persuing additional personal expenses, for example my truck which had never been parked outside over night sat outside for 3 months and I couldn't even get reimbursed for a car wash once a week. I couldn't get reimbursed for my time or fuel running to the store to replace all my lawn tools or mower or snowblower ( all those items were replaced)

My trailer had been parked in my driveway but the guy hit before hitting the truck. The impact punted the 1200lb 8x14 tandem axle trailer more than 35ft and into a tree. The trailer had the side caved in and 2 bent axles. As it turns out the trailer was onlu covered by my home owners insurance for $1000. The insurance company gave the trailer a value of $2995. After many (8-10) weeks of complaints I finally recovered the difference from the other insurance company. At that point I had already torn down the trailer and rebuilt it.

The latest development on this mess is my adjuster quit in November and lost all the notes for claim supplements so we had to go through all the paperwork since day 1 with a new adjuster last week to work out the details of the final payout one more time. If all goes well tomorrow the mortgage company will approve all the repairs and the contractor will release the lien on our house so we can finally pay the bill. 7 long months.

You're right though, I feel like somebody owes me for my time and the pain in the *** of this process but my family is safe and most of the stuff is fixed or replaced. And most importantly I'm not stuck with a $35,000 bill.

With that being said I cant wait to pay the bill and find a local insurance agent. Additionally my tools, trailer and toys will be specifically written into my new policy.
 

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Any time you receive a settlement the amount is subjective. Sure, you could argue for more if you substantiate your claim to their satisfaction. They might cough up a few more bucks. You also may get cancelled. Weigh your objectives against the liabilities.

I might have not filed that claim in the first place. But, I'm not you.

I actually love it when an insurance company cancels me. My family went through one particular auto insurance for years at my fathers request. According to him, they were a great company, with outstanding track record and were looking out for us. Well, we had them, no questions asked, for years and years. Well, one day they contacted me and said they were canceling my policy because they considered me too much of a risk. I had gotten a couple speeding tickets over a couple year period. No accidents mind you. I was needless to say shocked.

I started making calls and replaced that policy for a much cheaper policy of the exact same spec. I never looked back.. EVER. And I will never purchase that companies insurance again. I was a loyal faithful customer. Just trusted they were doing right by me. LOL I know... stupid. I was young. They have lost thousands in premiums from us[my extended family]. Just one case in point. I saved hundreds a year going elsewhere. Had never even price matched up to that point. I'm glad they dropped me!

Another company screwed a friend of mine years ago. He was proceeding through a green traffic light. Another vehicle came through the opposing red and took off his front end lucky he didn't get seriously hurt. They refused to fix the car claiming he was equally at fault in the accident. My friend only had liability insurance on his vehicle so his insurance didn't go to bat for him on that one. They had nothing to gain by doing so. There was even a witness! Notice how one particular auto insurance company has been doing nonstop ads for the last couple years to try and lure customers? Think the games up for them and the words gotten around?
 

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Still waiting on location and make/model/size of shelter, plus pics. Would love to know these details for my own knowledge and experience. We get a ton of snow up here, would love to know what circumstances led to the failure.

I have actually kicked around the idea of bracing mine and using metal roof sheets in place of my tarp material....just not sure as I may just build a run in style structure.

I'll bet a buck that he lives in the Buffalo NY area!

I am also curious about the make and model of his commercial structure.

Chris

Hoop (rafter) spacing and wall thickness of tubing used would be useful info.

:dunno: one of these maybe......

http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/ExternalPageView?pageKey=EXTERNAL_PAGE_3003


http://www.cover-tech.com/portablegarages.htm
 

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1. I can't answer your question, only your policy can.
2. If this is your first claim on this property in the last 10 years, then your premium probably won't go up.
3. If this is your second or third claim on this property in the past 10 years, then your premiums will go up, thus you will end up paying all the claim back and then some.
4. Smartest financial move is to not submit claims under $5,000, saving your homeowners insurance for $5,000+ events.
 

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I had a neighbor who was hit in the intersection by our house, by someone who left the scene of the accident.

We live on a corner and their car was pushed through our front yard and up to our front steps.

In the process our fence, a tree and some potted plants were destroyed.

It took a year, but the settlement from the insurance company was just short of 10K.

And the insurance company was the one insuring the neighbor who was hit.

I did a complete and itemized estimate and takeoff of every item that was needed to put things back as they were before the accident. Some of these included:

Cleanup and disposal
Labor and material to replace the fence.
Labor and material to replace the 6" caliper tree.
Labor and material to replace the potted plants.
Potting soil and Pots.
Maintenance to establish the plant material including fertilizer, water and labor.

Everything required to make us completely whole, as if the accident had never occurred.

I refused every offer and check sent and responded with another letter with more detail that added to the cost. I was careful to measure and list everything needed as to size and quantity. I even added in time and transportation to obtain needed materials.
Itemize completely and provide documentation. Don't forget sales tax for materials and overhead and profit for contractors.
After the final letter and check arrived, we spent half of it on property taxes, stood the fence back up and nailed it back together, bought a $20 tree and planted it and put the rest in the bank.

Take this as a lesson on how to proceed.
 
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Hello and welcome from Ohio! Good luck with them covering that!

Thanks for the welcome. Your not too far from me. They will cover it to the extent of my policy to be sure. I am going to read it in total when I get home. :thumbup:
 

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I'm dealing with a bad cold so I can't say I've read everything closely.

Some homeowners policies have a limit of 10% (of Coverage A) on separate structures and covered losses are paid off of actual cash value. This might be your case. So if you're home is insured for $80,000 the most you could receive is $8,000 or 10%.

I could see that your area with that amount of snowfall could be classified as a CAT loss. This would mean that CAT adjusters have been brought in to handle the large influx of claims. I would ask to speak with a claims manager and politely asked for the settlement be explained to you.
 
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