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im assuming he wants that price for EVERYTHING in the garage, and not just whats pictured.. maybe he couldn't fit all the pictures in one ad and thats just a sample to give people an idea how extensive of a collection it is, and thats why he metions he be happy to pass on all the photos to anyone interested??
 

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Lol yeah no. Wishful thinking there. Maybe if it was new it would cost that much. Used the value might be on the high end $3000. Craftsman tools used don't bring a premium. Also half of those tools are cheap import ****.
 

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Sometimes you think you have a gold mine....when all you really have is a shaft....
 

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im assuming he wants that price for EVERYTHING in the garage, and not just whats pictured.. maybe he couldn't fit all the pictures in one ad and thats just a sample to give people an idea how extensive of a collection it is, and thats why he metions he be happy to pass on all the photos to anyone interested??

Yes, most likely he included 23 pictures of $1000 worth of tools and none of the other $34,000 worth. I think the only way he'll get even half his price is if all of these are true: a) the garage itself is included, b) it's a fairly nice garage, and c) it includes delivery of the garage.
 

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Well if he doesn't know tools and has been tasked with getting rid of them, he couldn't know.... and it reads like there's still a lot not pictured.

Of course that's many times what it's all worth, but it's a few thousand at least, if you're honest.

Some people are very hard to take seriously in the prices they expect to pay for used tools - they essentially want you to pay them to steal your tools - and if they sell tools, they think their ****'s gold. In my estimation, this thread is leaning past a fair middle of the road, and in the direction of people who make scummy self-serving appraisals - but I guess the nature of the discussion might have pre-disposed it that way.
 

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I wonder what the story is on the Impact Universal sockets being Red on Drive end? Suppose he couldn't remember what end to plug into the Rattle Gun? Lol..
 

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Well if he doesn't know tools and has been tasked with getting rid of them, he couldn't know.... and it reads like there's still a lot not pictured.

Of course that's many times what it's all worth, but it's a few thousand at least, if you're honest.

Some people are very hard to take seriously in the prices they expect to pay for used tools - they essentially want you to pay them to steal your tools - and if they sell tools, they think their ****'s gold. In my estimation, this thread is leaning past a fair middle of the road, and in the direction of people who make scummy self-serving appraisals - but I guess the nature of the discussion might have pre-disposed it that way.

I don't agree. 95% of these tools were middle of the road quality when they were new. The fact of the matter is those Craftsman boxes and tools are nothing to write home about, especially if they aren't complete sets. For $2k I could go to Harbor Freight and buy a better box and fill it with better tools (also from HF). If you are willing to try to piece all of this out, it would take years and you'd be lucky to get $3k.

50 misc. crappy screwdrivers and 100 misc. raised panel wrenches are worth less to me than 1 complete set of quality screwdrivers and wrenches (pick your brand).
 
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"An auto mechanic friend who has passed away has every tool imaginable neatly organized in 4 large craftsman tool chests. I have photos of everything and am happy to pass them along to anyone interested in purchasing. Serious buyers only. "

1. Every tool imaginable - there are no cordless impacts, crows feet, most specialty tools missing like fuel system pressure/servicing set, brake tool /caliper set, pulley/idler tools, runout gauges, welding gear, easyouts, tap and die, rethreading tools/coil inserts,...ect

2. Neatly organized....Yeah....
 

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Well if he doesn't know tools and has been tasked with getting rid of them, he couldn't know.... and it reads like there's still a lot not pictured.

Of course that's many times what it's all worth, but it's a few thousand at least, if you're honest.

Some people are very hard to take seriously in the prices they expect to pay for used tools - they essentially want you to pay them to steal your tools - and if they sell tools, they think their ****'s gold. In my estimation, this thread is leaning past a fair middle of the road, and in the direction of people who make scummy self-serving appraisals - but I guess the nature of the discussion might have pre-disposed it that way.

So tell us how much it's worth before we cross the line.

Of course it's "worth" a few grand, maybe a lot more, but probably only to a flipper. The black boxes are decent but even cleaned up they are still just run of the mill used Craftsman combo sets.

There aren't that many people out there with no tools and no boxes who suddenly need 4 combo sets and "every tool imaginable". People don't squirrel away $5,000 to buy used Craftsman tools in mismatched boxes.
 
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Every tool imaginable - there are no cordless impacts, crows feet, most specialty tools missing like fuel system pressure/servicing set, brake tool /caliper set, pulley/idler tools, runout gauges, welding gear, easyouts, tap and die, rethreading tools/coil inserts,...ect

This is a valid point, this set is outdated for the most part. I'm willing to bet the original owner worked on classic cars, in which case this is a complete set. For the modern vehichles I work on, this set is really lacking. My grandfather had a world-class car collection (1920's through 1960's) and his tool collection was very similar. Nothing wrong with the functional ability of the tools, but they aren't premium, and they are far from complete.
 

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I wonder what the story is on the Impact Universal sockets being Red on Drive end? Suppose he couldn't remember what end to plug into the Rattle Gun? Lol..

Painting the impacts red makes them easier to find if you put them down on asphalt or another dark surface. Painting only one end looks better, but more importantly, it saves a small amount of time if you have to switch between sockets since you can quickly tell which end is which.
 
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Look, the guy just might believe the BS his now deceased friend may have told him about how "he spent 35000" in tools being a mechanic. This is about 3500 to 5000 in tools. The number and type of dwell tachs and timing lights tells you it was probable a mechanic who retired a while ago. The scan tool is the only real appealing modern tool in the set and that may be a 300 dollar tool.
 
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The reason why I brought this up I get pissed at this type of thing as it is a result of either ignorance or outright greed.

Ignorance is either they didn't do the research to find a decent price of showcase the tools that would make it work 35000. If he meant 3500...yet again be accurate.

Greed....there is a lot of "puffery" hear. It is not neatly organized, perhaps sorted somewhat. And every tool imaginable is a silly statement to anyone walked in a harbor freight or sears.
 

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I don't agree. 95% of these tools were middle of the road quality when they were new. The fact of the matter is those Craftsman boxes and tools are nothing to write home about, especially if they aren't complete sets. For $2k I could go to Harbor Freight and buy a better box and fill it with better tools (also from HF). If you are willing to try to piece all of this out, it would take years and you'd be lucky to get $3k.

50 misc. crappy screwdrivers and 100 misc. raised panel wrenches are worth less to me than 1 complete set of quality screwdrivers and wrenches (pick your brand).

I'd think if sold carefully, each box with tools is worth at least 500. Then there's a big air compressor and jacks, few hundred more there. There looks to be some neat older stuff in the background that he probably didn't even consider selling (as he's obviously not a tool guy), that he'll get offers on when people buy other stuff. I'm not saying I'd pay that much, either - just that it could be totally reasonable.

I totally agree that I wouldn't go bargain hunting there, at least until someone else checks him and he realizes the error of his ways - I understand that if you are going to buy a shop's worth of equipment, that would not be the complete package to go after.

But I would take that over harborfreight any day. I wouldn't feel dirty and guilty and immoral and sleazy if I got an alright deal on some old dude's assorted collection - I could never look my toolbox in the face if it was from or stocked from harborfreight.
 
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A pro mechanic who used craftsman RP's?????? But didn't his poor hands hurt?;-)
 

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So tell us how much it's worth before we cross the line.

Of course it's "worth" a few grand, maybe a lot more, but probably only to a flipper. The black boxes are decent but even cleaned up they are still just run of the mill used Craftsman combo sets.

There aren't that many people out there with no tools and no boxes who suddenly need 4 combo sets and "every tool imaginable". People don't squirrel away $5,000 to buy used Craftsman tools in mismatched boxes.

I don't disagree.

But I still don't get the whole bandwagon of beating up on the guy who just doesn't know what he's talking about. If I had to sell an estate of, say, oil rigs and service equipment, it would take me a while to figure the price out, but I'd rather start too high than too low.

And yeah yeah, it was pieced together, how else do you build a tool collection (unless you're much too rich to really need tools anyway)? If you're saying sell it as 4 lots, I'd agree - I'd set up each box with a suite of tools well suited to each other, and price each according to the actual approximate value of the lot's contents - but back to my oil rig example, the guy doesn't know.

Also, generic tools as they are, I don't see why people are picking at the quality, there's plenty of people here who brag about making a living with harborfreight ****.... as far as I can tell, the guy was doing it right, even if the seller is ignorant and the whole set is not very saleable.
 
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I am with you on that one; when my turn comes a calling I hope it gets sorted out before the wolves come out of the woodwork.

ME too!

It makes me sad to see an ad like this knowing their is more to it than just the mans tools.
 
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Multiple timing lights, dwell tachs... I wonder what percentage of those tools are SAE. I bet over half. If so it's really not worth much. I can hardly give away SAE stuff any more. So much SAE tools on eBay go unsold and get relisted it's crazy.

I sure hope it's a typo and the survivors haven't bought into the $35K value madness. That would be truly sad.
 

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I feel like emailing him and asking if that "240 volt craftsman pump" is the model that comes with the hand crank on the side or the hand lever on the top. Of course it could be one of those vintage (ultra-rare) models that has the pull-down bar and bicycle crank/pedal assembly on the side too. :dunno:

Condition: excellent (???):rolleyes:

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