Alloy Artifacts - Still On Hiatus?

tooljunkie4 · Jan 11, 2015

EDIT: Alloy Artifacts began receiving updates about a month ago.

I have a few tools I'd like to share with the folks at Alloy Artifacts. The disclaimer regarding use of their old e-mail address as a means of getting in contact is still posted to their site, so I'm not sure I can ask them directly.

Has their curator made it known through other means whether or not they will be resuming development?

woody 73 · Jan 11, 2015

while they are in hiatus may I suggest that you share your tools here on the GJ; if you ever follow some of my posts I have tried to follow up on the AA web-site while they are down for a much needed time out.

I will leave you with one of my posts as an example:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264116

softailgarage · Jan 11, 2015

It looks like that website hasn't been touched since 2011 and trademark expired 2009. Does anybody know if the info can be burned to disc? I would really hate to lose that website and all the info on it in the event of the death of the site owner (since it appears to be a private site).

woody 73 · Jan 11, 2015

I seem to recall some talk on the Darkside of someone doing just what you talked about "Burning it on a disk"; It would be a very sad day if that web-site ever went down.

Funny thing but sometimes I wonder if he is a member in good standing at the GJ or elsewhere? Now if only I could get a few more members to take up the torch as they say and keep it going; I am trying but my small funds do not go very far these days.

I am working on a story of a craftsman hand tool that I picked up so stay tuned for another story.

southalabama · Jan 11, 2015

If you can burn it

Burn it

The problem would come in if you then posted the entirety of the website or sold info.

Fair use doctrine.

snapmom · Jan 11, 2015

He has no interest in collecting tools at the present time (his words), he may change this in the future. But, he does not want his material copied and used elsewhere ( again, his wishes)

Shipfittin · Jan 11, 2015

You can copy the information for personal use. Just make sure you don't ever try to profit from his work.

Honestly, I'm surprised with as many old school tool collectors we have in here, that someone doesn't have a current up to date website that would be like an online library of tools.

lbgradwell · Jan 12, 2015

snapmom said:
But, he does not want his material copied and used elsewhere ( again, his wishes)

Shipfittin said:
You can copy the information for personal use. Just make sure you don't ever try to profit from his work.

Quite right. It's his research (that took many, many hours) that he has been kind enough to share with others. I hope AA never goes away, but that's the owner's decision to make...

Engine · Jan 12, 2015

It's not all that hard to download a complete copy of the website to your hard drive. It might be a good idea to get it now and keep it for future reference if you think it might be taken down in the future.

rlitman · Jan 12, 2015

Or just look at the "Internet Wayback Machine"'s copy:
https://web.archive.org/web/20141218220120/http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/

Engine · Jan 12, 2015

rlitman said:
Or just look at the "Internet Wayback Machine"'s copy:
https://web.archive.org/web/20141218220120/http://home.comcast.net/~alloy-artifacts/

Thanks for mentioning that website. I had no idea that it even existed. I took a quick look at it but I didn't see anything that mentioned exactly how websites get placed into their archives. Does someone have to "donate" the site or is there something that automatically searches the Internet and downloads sites? I see the purpose, which is to archive the contents of the Internet for historical record. Pretty amazing site. And, it keeps you from having to fill up your hard drive with websites that may or may not be useful to you in the future.

organ · Jan 12, 2015

Engine said:
It's not all that hard to download a complete copy of the website to your hard drive. It might be a good idea to get it now and keep it for future reference if you think it might be taken down in the future.

I've used this program to great effect: http://www.httrack.com

rlitman · Jan 12, 2015

Engine said:
Thanks for mentioning that website. I had no idea that it even existed. I took a quick look at it but I didn't see anything that mentioned exactly how websites get placed into their archives. Does someone have to "donate" the site or is there something that automatically searches the Internet and downloads sites? I see the purpose, which is to archive the contents of the Internet for historical record. Pretty amazing site. And, it keeps you from having to fill up your hard drive with websites that may or may not be useful to you in the future.

There is a link where you can request adding a site to be spidered. It works like a search engine, though it lets you see the chanes over time too.

tooljunkie4 · Jul 27, 2015

snapmom said:
He has no interest in collecting tools at the present time (his words), he may change this in the future. But, he does not want his material copied and used elsewhere ( again, his wishes)

Understood. If that interest returns, I have a few donations to make to his collection.

Mohawk Dave · Jul 27, 2015

Too bad it wasn't set up in a Wikipedia way where we as users could update as a team.

Fretters · Jul 27, 2015

Mohawk Dave said:
Too bad it wasn't set up in a Wikipedia way where we as users could update as a team.

The problem with things like that is keeping both spammers at bay and keeping on top of the content and rectifying mistakes. Even when users are submitting info rather than doing it oneself, it's still a time consuming task, making sure that errors and incorrect information are rectified etc. It's amazing just how much time maintaining a website can consume.

twertsy · Jul 27, 2015

I'll just throw this out there...........If there's enough interest, I'd be glad to host / manage such a "wiki-type" site, with mucho reference to the AA site of course.

And by "enough interest," I mean post your interest in contributing in this thread. Frankly, I've asked about it before, and really haven't seen enough interest to justify it.

rickhigginshtbr · Jul 27, 2015

I would definitely contribute to a wiki-style page

tooljunkie4 · Dec 27, 2015

Nearly a year has passed since this was posted. Are there any updates to be had on the curator's plans for the Alloy Artifacts project?

Tellingthem · Dec 27, 2015

tooljunkie4 said:
Nearly a year has passed since this was posted. Are there any updates to be had on the curator's plans for the Alloy Artifacts project?

AA has been updating a lot recently. recent additions

Gmonkee · Dec 27, 2015

Twertsy has fired up a site to compliment AA and there have been a few updates to AA since.

The new site encourages member input in a forum format.

tooljunkie4 · Dec 27, 2015

Tellingthem said:
AA has been updating a lot recently. recent additions

Phenomenal. Thank you, Tellingthem. This is good news.

four.cycle · Dec 28, 2015

I was looking at something the other night on AA and noted that there had been recent entries made, so it is being updated currently.

twertsy has got his site up and running - it just needs content. I am getting off to a very slow start getting stuff uploaded to the site - I think I goofed up the last post and am waiting to hear back from him before I proceed.

twertsy · Dec 28, 2015

four.cycle said:
I was looking at something the other night on AA and noted that there had been recent entries made, so it is being updated currently.

twertsy has got his site up and running - it just needs content. I am getting off to a very slow start getting stuff uploaded to the site - I think I goofed up the last post and am waiting to hear back from him before I proceed.

Naw, you're all good. I'll take care of the dupes.

If y'all haven't checked it out recently, I've been scanning/uploading many, many catalogs for your reference. You can also feel free to download a copy should you desire. My desk has piles more so look out for that. Here's the link to the cats uploaded so far.

four.cycle · Dec 28, 2015

ahh... thank you. wasn't sure where to put that... and there's really no way to break out that set into pieces and post them individually.

have some serious sorting and organizing to do here and will get more images uploaded.

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