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SK Tools X-Frame Ratcheting Wrench (VIDEO) - MADE IN USA

woodstockva

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Hey Everybody :)

I decided to go ahead and make a quick overview video about the brand new SK Tools X-Frame Ratcheting Wrench that the SEMA attendees which participated in their presentation are now getting in the mail.

These have the lowest swing arc out of any ratcheting wrench on the market --- coming in at 1.7 degrees with 216 positions in a full turn. Compare that to the new 120XP wrenches by Gearwrench, which has 120 positions aka a 3 degree swing.

If you are interested in these & would like to see them for yourself.....check out the video to watch them compared to a few other wrenches & where that low swing arc can get the job done where a normal wrench will fail.


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Hmmm I didn't like them at first but am warming up to them. Now i gotta resist the urge to buy.
 

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Thanks for another great review! Love the fact that these are six point with superfine action.

Any idea what the torque rating is for the ratcheting mechanism?
 

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Nice review again. I love the look of these, spose ill have to wait till next florida holiday, as i cant find a y-uk stockist of s-k tools. Shame
 

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Unless they're far more pronounced on larger wrenches the cut-outs are definitely smaller than they were in the initial product photos. I wonder if they followed some of the feedback since most people didn't like the skeleton frame look.
 

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Probably ridicilously xpensive. Tarded design. Im happy with my gearwrench n craftsman usa made reversible. In that case doing door hinge thing, use the fkn ratchet with big long stick n cap the socket.. Will loose the 6 point bolt fast
 

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Theres a few places accepting orders already. Looks like $215-$250 for 8-19mm introductory price unless they're all just flat out guessing and are way off.
 

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I thought about buying flank drive plus ratcheting wrenches but maybe I'll just get these.

wait, no. I... I think I need them both for some reason. I'll think of a reason. After I buy both.

Anyone know when these are going to be sold?
 

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Probably ridicilously xpensive. Tarded design. Im happy with my gearwrench n craftsman usa made reversible. In that case doing door hinge thing, use the fkn ratchet with big long stick n cap the socket.. Will loose the 6 point bolt fast


Try to use your USA Cmans (What I currently have) and Gearwrenches to bust stubborn bolts loose.

These SKs more than likely will handle busting hardware loose.
 

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Try to use your USA Cmans (What I currently have) and Gearwrenches to bust stubborn bolts loose.

These SKs more than likely will handle busting hardware loose.

These are too short to be good at it. I've said all along if their goal was the showcase strength they should of started with a high performance long double box version instead of fairly standard length combos.

You will not break your GW or Cman without abuse or a whole lot of use.
 
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I'm so glad you did a review of these wrenches, I've been looking for videos of the action. I've switched to SK from Craftsman after giving up on their Chinese garbage. SK is the most logical choice for me coming from USA Craftsman. Sears used to sell SK tools in their tool catalog's. SK uses western forge for some things, like the comfort grip screw drivers. They are identical to the red and black Craftsman Professional screwdrivers that I have and love so much.

SK is the new USA Craftsman to me.
 
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Man you are quick on the trig... Err shutter :). Great video.

I just got mine in the mail today. They really feel like a quality piece. The lack of offset is a bit of a bummer but having a made in UsA set would be desirable for sure. I'm hoping they do well with them because as others stated, this is one of the last remaining options for quality pieces. Here's to hoping they are affordable for us DIY guys as well.

I just wished the sample was a 3/8" ha. Be a great wrench for hard to get to header bolts. Since I mostly wrench on domestic classics then my metric stuff doesn't get much use except maintaining the family drivers.
 

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Nice product review/video!





These are too short to be good at it. I've said all along if their goal was the showcase strength they should of started with a high performance long double box version instead of fairly standard length combos.

You will not break your GW or Cman without abuse or a whole lot of use.

I agree. I really hope they come out with an XL length to really utilize its key selling points. With their new open-end profile, I think they should produce them in XL pattern DOE's
 

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Wish they were coming out with a DBE version of these. One fixed box end and one ratcheting end, that's something I will buy. Very nice review, I'm sure these wrenches will save a lot of people in tight spots
 

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One of your better reviews to date.:thumbup:

Neat idea using the hinges to illustrate the multiple pawl engagement.

I've used the hell out of my 10mm sample and should get the metric set sometime this month. I'm anxious to see how the larger sizes feel.:beer:
 

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Agree with Fedwrench......best review I've seen. I've seen their video that showed how the pawls engaged, almost like a 6 cylinder engine (well, include each piston's firing order opposite). The one thing I would have liked to have seen was a different comparator wrench when you showed the swing. The Gearwench had some added slop in the flex portion. A fixed head like the Proto may have been a little bit closer to apples to apples.

Been planning on replacing my Craftsman combo's with some Wrights. I already have four sets of ratcheting, so although I'm not looking for more, these look like they could almost replace a combination wrench since they designed it to break loose fasteners typically not done with ratcheting wrenches. Maybe I'll do that for the SAE set, since I only have one set of ratcheting, and my GTO and Bronco don't have the same kinds of package constraints the Porsches do.
 

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I fear these will end up too rich for my blood, but I think they look fantastic.
 

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They look really nice. Not crazy about the 6pt contact on the ratcheting end (because it will make it harder to line it up with a nut in a tight, hard to reach spot) but its the non-reversable mechanism that makes them very unappealing to me.
 

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Wow! This is a great video and I'm sold on these. Now to bring my tool truck balance down to get these.
 

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I like them but I agree with Jake. I think I'll wait for them to come out with a dbe version.
 

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Hmm interesting. Cant wait to try them. I wonder where the mechanism is made? Most likely imported
 

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Great review as usual!

My thoughts:

Pros
-Made in USA
-Length
-Solid mechanism with low swing arc

Cons
-Stupid beam design. Not only is it unnecessary, but it's bulky which seems to counter the benefits of the low swing arc.
-Non reversible, no offset
-I'd rather have a spline or 12pt box end. 6pts are a pain in the *** to line up in tight areas.

FWIW, I have the black Proto reversible spline wrenches in MM and Blackhawk reversible wrenches in SAE. If I was to buy another set tomorrow, it would be another set of the reversible Proto spline. SK missed the mark in my opinion.
 

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^^^ Pretty much nailed it.

I've already bought a set of fixed Gearwrench ratcheting wrenches, a set of locking flexhead Craftsmans, a few Kobalts, and a few Matcos as well. In other words, why would I buy these? They would be redundant. Other than the decrease in a already small swing-arc, these would actually be a step down in terms of function (not performance).

I'm looking to buy the Gearwrench 120XP DBE (one side flex) wrenches here in a few weeks. I decided on these instead of the Mountain/EZ-Red/Platinum/ etc flex DBE sets that are out there.

Other than maybe buying one as a novelty just to see how nice it is (maybe a 10mm?), I can't see ever buying a set of these. I am a diehard S-K fan. I've scoured fleabay to find NOS S-K tools many times, but yes, they missed the boat on this.

I don't know if they can't produce a flex DBE like Gearwrench's due to patent reasons or what not, but if they could one day produce something similar at a similar cost, they could really put the S-K name back on the map as a major contender (at least in wrenches).
 

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I truly don't understand why people predict trouble in lining up the RATCHETING 6 point boxed end in tight areas. I mean it's no different than lining up a 6 point socket with a super fine toothed ratchet. :dunno:

I know fixed 6 point boxed ends are a different story but, the super low ratcheting angle on the SK makes it easy to use in tight areas. I refer back to the posted video where he uses the wrench in the narrow hinge gap. The SK works, others didn't. :beer:
 

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Mmm! These look like decent tools!

The ratcheting mechanism is novel, but the main selling point for me is 'made in U.S.A.'

I've been avoiding getting too many of this style of wrench, primarily because so many, even from firms such as Stahlwille and Hazet, use Taiwanese ratcheting mechanism's which never feel that good to me!

This one looks like a winner, and I hope SK do something to ease availability here in the U.K.!
 

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Great video as usual I really liked the aids used to describe the tool, waiting to see the price point on these.
 

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Cons
-Stupid beam design. Not only is it unnecessary, but it's bulky which seems to counter the benefits of the low swing arc.

As much as I love your avatar, I have to completely and totally disagree with you. Worked metals, which includes things like rolling, shot peening, and FORGING, have toughness profiles that differ through the thickness, where the surface is tougher than the center. That hole in the middle exposes more surface to the forging dies, thus increasing the wrench's toughness.

A conventional design absolutely will have stress concentrations where the beam meets the end. They may not fail on you, or they may, who knows. But there is no question, whatsoever, that it is a superior design.

Those are my professional opinions as an engineer with a couple of degrees in Materials Engineering (my undergrad having included a concentration in metallurgy), though I am not currently practicing in that field.

My "real world," or non-professional opinion......what on Earth does mass have to do with swing arc? If you are in a tight spot where you can't move the wrench, I don't care if you have a wrench made of carbon fiber or Spectra, it won't help. Conversely, if you have a very low swing arc, how would a wrench even made of tungsten (more dense than lead) negate the advantage of being able to swing hte wrench enough for the next teeth to engage? Besides, does it weigh more than a conventional wrench of similar size and function (i.e. a same size wrench of similar length with a ratcheting end)? According to SK, one of the reasons for the holes in the middle was to get the mass down to where it would otherwise be.

Additionally, you like the fact that it is long!? Wha? Lessie here........longer wrenches weigh more, but that's okay, you like that. But it is an unconventional design which LOOKS heavier, even though it is not (per claim by manufacturer). But that is bad.

Not directed at you, but more comments over the past 4-5 months, in general. I really don't get the hate for this aspect of the design. Functionally, it is a superior design, period. It is not stupid, but rather the exact opposite.

As for the non-reversible........well, if you look at the design of the thing, it does not appear to be that that is an option. Reversible ones have a single engagement pawl that is changed with the lever. This one has 3 pairs of pawls taking up the entire perimeter of the head, each pair working in conjunction with the one directly across the wrench from it. Now, I've never designed tools, but I'm having a hard time seeing how you make that reversible. So making it reversible would eliminate one of, if not the, biggest point of the wrench. Slamming it for that is like slamming a ratchet for not being a wrench, or slamming a 27mm wrench for weighing more than a 10mm wrench.

A 12 point would be easier to line up, but again, what is SK trying to design for? One aspect is a wrench tough enough to break loose a fastener without failing. A 12 point is going to be less likely to be able to do that for you.

Anyway, every design of nearly everything out there, not just tool related, but in general, is a result of compromise. SK went with what they felt would address the more important issues to its potential customers. Time will tell if they are right. But the criticisms lodged at them are analogous to criticizing a desk top computer for not being portable, or citicizing a smart phone for not having a full size keyboard.
 

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A conventional design absolutely will have stress concentrations where the beam meets the end. They may not fail on you, or they may, who knows. But there is no question, whatsoever, that it is a superior design.

It might be a "superior" design, but in the real world, this is a non-issue. If a wrench is made to ASTM standards, a conventional beam will never fail. Also, in reality, a human will never be able to bend a beam by hand without using a cheater of some sort on the wrench. I see the split beam as more of an exercise in design, than a solution to a problem.

My "real world," or non-professional opinion......what on Earth does mass have to do with swing arc? If you are in a tight spot where you can't move the wrench, I don't care if you have a wrench made of carbon fiber or Spectra, it won't help. Conversely, if you have a very low swing arc, how would a wrench even made of tungsten (more dense than lead) negate the advantage of being able to swing hte wrench enough for the next teeth to engage? Besides, does it weigh more than a conventional wrench of similar size and function (i.e. a same size wrench of similar length with a ratcheting end)? According to SK, one of the reasons for the holes in the middle was to get the mass down to where it would otherwise be.

I never said anything about mass. I actually prefer heavy wrenches.

Additionally, you like the fact that it is long!? Wha? Lessie here........longer wrenches weigh more, but that's okay, you like that. But it is an unconventional design which LOOKS heavier, even though it is not (per claim by manufacturer). But that is bad.

My comments were about the bulky size of the beam near the ends, not about weight. I also like longer pattern wrenches, especially in smaller sizes.

As for the non-reversible........well, if you look at the design of the thing, it does not appear to be that that is an option. Reversible ones have a single engagement pawl that is changed with the lever. Not necessarily true, check out the Dual 80 or GXP120 pawl arrangements This one has 3 pairs of pawls taking up the entire perimeter of the head, each pair working in conjunction with the one directly across the wrench from it. Now, I've never designed tools, but I'm having a hard time seeing how you make that reversible. So making it reversible would eliminate one of, if not the, biggest point of the wrench. Slamming it for that is like slamming a ratchet for not being a wrench, or slamming a 27mm wrench for weighing more than a 10mm wrench. I still think the design would be great in a flex head.

A 12 point would be easier to line up, but again, what is SK trying to design for? One aspect is a wrench tough enough to break loose a fastener without failing. A 12 point is going to be less likely to be able to do that for you.
I'll give you a real world example of why I feel splines are superior. On my race car the steering rack is held in by (4) 14mm studs. When I went to go remove the rack, the nuts had been slightly rounded by whoever worked on it last. 2 different 6pt sockets and a 12pt wouldn't even go onto the nut. My Proto spline wrenches went on and fit perfect and broke the nuts loose without issues.

Also, 6pt's don't work too well on 12pt fasteners which are common on race cars, aircraft, and are becoming more common on modern motors.

With regards to alignment, I don't want to have to stick my fingers in the box end to find proper alignment every time I'm in a pinch. With a Spline or 12pt, it's much less of an issue. Overall, alignment isn't the main gripe I have with 6pt, it's the fact I can't use them on 12pts.


Anyway, every design of nearly everything out there, not just tool related, but in general, is a result of compromise. SK went with what they felt would address the more important issues to its potential customers. Time will tell if they are right. But the criticisms lodged at them are analogous to criticizing a desk top computer for not being portable, or citicizing a smart phone for not having a full size keyboard.

And let's get serious, if this new split beam design is so superior how long will it be before SK changes all of it's wrenches to this design? They probably never will, because bending beams has never been an issue with any of SK's current or past beam designs.
 
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