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The Cobbler

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Picked up these tools at Habitat today

this looks like Craftsman, but no name on it and not as neat as Craftsman IMO. a driver for 1/4" hex bits paid$1

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and this wrench , made by McKinnon Industries . has pipe wrench type serrations on one side of the openings, and a flat face on the other side of the openings, it was $2
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The wrench is an Alligator wrench.

Alligator wrenches used to be one of the standard wrenches used for pipe. Yours has two different size jaws for larger and smaller pipe.
 

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Some wrenches of that style were intended for hex bolts as well. Probably worked o.k. as there were quite a few different standards when it came to nut and bolt sizing "back in the day".
 
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Alligator wrenches IIRC go back to the late 1800s to the early 1900s. Floating around somewhere in the garage I have a Roebling (family famed for Brooklyn Bridge) alligator wrench made by the Roebling Co. in Trenton NJ.

Apparently they had their uses "back in the day" and would have been way too early for an informercial.
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I can't see it working all that well on pipe either. just the design of it doesn't seem very good.

One of Bahco's classic wrench designs is their 31 model wrench. The wrench is an adjustable wrench on one end, with an Alligator wrench on the other. It's still in production.

The alligator wrenches are meant for "soft" pipe like steel gas line. The one jaw is smooth, the other has teeth, when you apply it to pipe, the smooth jaw slides on the surface allowing the other jaw to bite into the pipe and grip it.

During WW2 when Schick was making wrenches for the military, one of the wrench types they supplied in a few sizes were Alligator wrenches. Most major tool companies that made tools for pipe work likely also made Alligator wrenches.

Unlike other pipe wrenches like Stillson, and Ridgid style wrenches, there is no size adjustment needed to be made. The fitting size capacity range is smaller than on a Ridgid style pipe wrench, but if you were only working on a small variety of pipe or fitting sizes, the Alligator wrench was probably quicker in use. The Alligator wrenches are also better in some circumstances for tighter locations.
 

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its also called a "goat" wrench.. they are still made today, popular with some utility companies, and i think the one you have "might" be for telephone work. the single sided i "think" were more geared towards pipes, and i believe were very popular for working on locomotives back in the day.. some new ones today also feature a "hammer" side, and thread restorers in the handle, but are marketed mainly towards lineman for work on pole mounted arial hardware.

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Alligator or “Goat” wrenches have been around for a while. The name “alligator” alludes to the shape of the jaws which look like alligator jaws, but I’m not sure how the name “goat” became attached to these type of wrenches. Two different companies market what appears to be the identical wrench under the two traditional names of Goat Wrench and Alligator Wrench.

Along with the traditional use of turning iron and steel pipes, the wrench has been re-purposed for turning hex and square nuts from 9/16″ to 1-1/8″. It’s designed so you can use ratcheting action to turn nuts without repositioning the jaws. The 12″ long wrench also has 3/8″ through 5/8″ thread restorers — we assume the middle one is 1/2″ – and the funny-looking jaw can also be used as a hammer.

Made from forged steel and chrome plated, the wrench weighs 1 lb. 7 oz. You can purchase an Alligator wrench for about $73 shipped from Craftwork Tools.
 
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sam.coll

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Sec pic of the wrench we call here in NZ a "sharky" used to be used for powerline construction mostly and we were always taught only to be used on square nuts.
 

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all the line hardware i use is square - so that makes sense. mostly 1" or 3/4".

All our old stuff is square but anything current and last 15years is hex heads, in New Zealand most of our stuff was 20mm, 16mm, and 12mm but here in Australia main bolts are mostly 24mm, 20mm, and 16mm.
 
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