Vacation pawn shop score....

Jason280 · May 26, 2015

Well, been at the beach all week and decided it was time to hit the local pawn shops. We'd hit four or so shops, and finally found something I have been after for years...

I have been after a magnetic base drill for quite some time, and have never come across one in a pawn shop. I have seen a couple on CL, but the price was never good enough to pull the trigger.

So, here in all its glory, its probably one of the better deals I have gotten. Its a Milwaukee 4203 Mag Drill, and is in pretty good condition.

Jason280 · May 26, 2015

Also snagged a Snap On Torqmeter 50FA, which has definitely seen some use, but was still in decent shape.

RedneckWelder · May 26, 2015

Dammit everyone else always gets the good deals at a pawn shop...

YOU ****

MFolks · May 26, 2015

I used the piss out of one of those. when building some large Carbon Fiber manufacturing machines in San Diego.

http://centurydesign.com/products/prepreg_machines.php?PHPSESSID=e092fa1689d3c75385b8fbb785c05248

Jason280 · May 26, 2015

How did you like the drill? Any issues?

56rpm · May 26, 2015

Ok, I'll bite, how much did you pay for the mag drill?

Caman · May 26, 2015

Agreed! If you're going to brag about your great deal we need $$$$$!

I love those mag drills, nice find, never seen one with that much paint remaining!

tlpatter · May 26, 2015

Nice score! I never can find a good deals at pawn shops around here. They always have cap and they want damn near retail.

Jason280 · May 26, 2015

Forgot to post the price...I paid $400 cash for the drill, and $23 for the Snap On...

rockinacummins · May 26, 2015

Very nice!

dr_clyde · May 26, 2015

What kind of spindle does the drill have? I'd look into swapping that standard chuck out for a ball bearing chuck. Mine needs the extra grip on large taps.

Nice score.

Jason280 · May 26, 2015

Not sure, looks like a standard Jacobs style chuck.

ADSR · May 26, 2015

Jason280 said:
Forgot to post the price...I paid $400 cash for the drill, and $23 for the Snap On...

I would have paid that for it. it looks brand new :thumbup:

dr_clyde · May 26, 2015

So, something is holding the chuck on, and allows you to change it out for holding annular cutters. Mine has an inner sleeve with a retention ring that has a no. 3 Morse taper it. You simply remove the ring and put whatever tool you want in the spindle.

The part number you gave was for the mag base, but the drill motor itself has a different number, as you can pair different drills with different bases. If you give me the part number off the motor itself, I can probably tell you what spindle you have.

Jason280 · May 26, 2015

Give me a few, I'll go check...

Jason280 · May 26, 2015

The drill motor itself is model # 4262-1. I took a pic of the chuck, I'll post a pic once I'm not on an iPotato.

Farmall 1066 · May 26, 2015

Hellacious good score! Maximum suckage awarded!

NeuseRvrRat · May 26, 2015

Good deal.

I never could bring myself to do business with a fence, er, I mean, pawn shop.

dr_clyde · May 26, 2015

So on yours, it looks like the spindle has a Jacobs taper on the end. If you wanted to swap the chuck out you'd pull the spindle and separate the two, then press on the new chuck. Im kind of surprised by this, I figured there would be an easier way to remove the chuck and put in different cutters directly to the spindle.

I only mention it because my standard 3/4" chuck slips on larger drills and taps, but the ball bearing chucks get tight enough that they don't slip. Keep your eyes peeled for a Jacobs super chuck. Well worth the effort to swap them.

Jason280 · May 26, 2015

I never could bring myself to do business with a fence, er, I mean, pawn shop.

????

NeuseRvrRat · May 26, 2015

I'm not saying your mag drill is stolen, I'm just saying that the pawn shop business model depends heavily on thieves.

But yeah, that's a sweet piece of equipment to have around if you're the type who has a use for it.

Jason280 · May 26, 2015

I'm not saying your mag drill is stolen, I'm just saying that the pawn shop business model depends heavily on thieves.

What, exactly, is your experience with pawn shops? What do you base this comment on? I am good friends with several pawn shop owners, and I can assure you that not a single one of them "depends heavily on thieves". Are you even aware of what is required to accept goods in a pawn shop, the hoops they have to jump through?

NeuseRvrRat · May 26, 2015

dude, i'm not gonna sit here and argue about this

enjoy your drill

thebeekeeper1 · May 26, 2015

Jason280 said:
What, exactly, is your experience with pawn shops? What do you base this comment on? I am good friends with several pawn shop owners, and I can assure you that not a single one of them "depends heavily on thieves". Are you even aware of what is required to accept goods in a pawn shop, the hoops they have to jump through?

Why would a thief show ID, get his pic taken, and provide a confirmed address to a pawn shop when he can just use Craigslist or Ebay? :headscrat

Jason280 · May 27, 2015

dude, i'm not gonna sit here and argue about this

Then why make the comment in the first place? You were clearly trolling for a response, and I for one would like to see some evidence that pawn shops depend heavily on thieves. It suggests to me that you know very little (if anything) about the business, yet you feel the need to make outlandish claims on a public forum.

I'll ask again, are you even remotely familiar with what is required of a shop when they buy or pawn an item?

NeuseRvrRat · May 27, 2015

Yes, I am. I'm also not naive enough to think there aren't numerous ways around them.

Jason280 · May 27, 2015

Why would a thief show ID, get his pic taken, and provide a confirmed address to a pawn shop when he can just use Craigslist or Ebay?

Exactly. Hell, some shops are even taking fingerprints now.

NeuseRvrRat · May 27, 2015

They'll make all kinds of bad decisions chasing that next crack rock.

Jason280 · May 27, 2015

NeuseRvrRat said:
Yes, I am. I'm also not naive enough to think there aren't numerous ways around them.

I don't think you are. In fact, I think you are talking out of your *** right now. Please show me proof where the pawn shop "business model" depends heavily on the criminal element.

They'll make all kinds of bad decisions chasing that next crack rock.

Now I know you are talking out of your ***. Please tell me this isn't your proof, that you have much more to go on than this. Surely you are more intelligent than what your posts suggest...

tweedlestan · May 27, 2015

NeuseRvrRat said:
They'll make all kinds of bad decisions chasing that next crack rock.

Quite true. I have several friends in the pawn biz that will attest to that.

NeuseRvrRat · May 27, 2015

here's a paper with real data:

https://www.law.umich.edu/centersan...mics/workshops/Documents/Winter2008/miles.pdf

I am not trying to insult your pawnbroker buddies. I am not saying all pawn shops are fences. Do you have any data or just your anecdotal evidence?

NeuseRvrRat · May 27, 2015

thebeekeeper1 said:
Why would a thief show ID, get his pic taken, and provide a confirmed address to a pawn shop when he can just use Craigslist or Ebay?

I guess we could ask the lowlifes who kicked my door in, stole my guns and my wife's jewelry, took the guns two counties over, and fenced them in a pawn shop. The sheriff's dept found them after doing a huge sweep of pawn shops in response to the dozens of break-ins this pair was responsible for. I didn't have time to sweep the pawn shops because I get up and make an honest living each day. All the guys who didn't have their serial numbers recorded? They were **** out of luck. And all my wife's jewelry was melted down way before the sheriff's dept found the guns.

Jason280 · May 27, 2015

Did you even read the link above, or did you simply post the first article you found you thought would support your claim? More so, where in the link did it state that the pawn model depends heavily on the criminal element? In case you didn't notice, the paper didn't cite a single reference any more recent than 1999, and the majority where in the mid-90s. Hell, quite a few of them were much older. You have no idea how much the pawn business has changed in the last five years, much less the last 15+. As you continue to prove, you have no idea what all is required of a shop when they accept any item into the store.

Instead of continuing to dig this hole (and further devolve my thread), why not accept you really don't know much of anything about the pawn business and simply keep quiet?

Jason280 · May 27, 2015

I guess we could ask the lowlifes who kicked my door in, stole my guns and my wife's jewelry, took the guns two counties over, and fenced them in a pawn shop.

So, based on your previous comments, you are stating that the pawn shop new these items were stolen, accepted them anyway, and then turned them over to the local LEOs? How long ago did this happen?

I am not saying all pawn shops are fences

No, that's exactly what you are implying. Your exact comment was "the pawn shop business model depends heavily on thieves". You didn't say "some shops", or "a few shops", you said "the pawn shop business model".

Jason280 · May 27, 2015

Anyway, this has gotten past the point of ridiculous.

I'll post a few pics of the mag drill in action once I get it home.

BFBOB · May 27, 2015

NeuseRvrRat said:
here's a paper with real data:

https://www.law.umich.edu/centersan...mics/workshops/Documents/Winter2008/miles.pdf

I am not trying to insult your pawnbroker buddies. I am not saying all pawn shops are fences. Do you have any data or just your anecdotal evidence?

Wow. One nugget of info from this paper - in 7 states if your stolen property is located at a pawn shop, it takes a court order for you to get it back! How many items in a pawn shop are worth the lawyers' fees it would take to accomplish this! :scared:

NeuseRvrRat · May 27, 2015

Hey, you've completely changed my mind on pawn shops. I think they are a real benefit to our low income communities and I have the utmost faith in them. I think I'll head down after work tomorrow and see what kind of deals I can score. Thanks for showing me how misinformed I was.

JAKE-THE-TOOL-MAN · May 27, 2015

Nice drill! Excuse my ignorance but what kind of work can you do with a drill like that? Seems almost like a mobile drill press

BFBOB · May 27, 2015

Exactly, Jake.
It lets you drill holes with the accuracy and ease of a drill press in steel pieces that are too big to fit under your drill press.

csargents1546 · May 27, 2015

Sweet score!!!!

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