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The Dirt Squirrel's Hideout - 40x80x14 Shop Build in TX

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This will be slow for the next 3-6 months, as Im still offshore and have yet to order the building itself. I plan on going with a 40x80x14 steel building to replace two 75-year old wooden barns that I have been using to build and store **** at my house since I moved in 7+ years ago. The time has finally come to build something new.

The shop will be 80ft in length but the first bay will be 20ft inset in order for me to park my truck and DD under instead of leaving it out under a tree in the driveway. My house had a single car garage that was converted into a 4th bedroom several owners ago. The new shop will also have a 15x60 lean-to off of one side to store lawn mowers, random ****, etc under.

Some plans for the shop:
40x80x14 w/ 20ft inset bay (Dark blue with white trim to match the house)
15x60 lean-to off of one side
2-14x12 roll-up doors on the front
1-14x12 roll-up door on the back gable
2:12 slope
Fully Insulated
2-post lift
15x10 storage loft

This is the my spread. 4 acres with two dry ponds (I plan on making the two into one and installing a wind mill to keep them full; wind blows like a mofo out here on the prairie)
This is a google earth view with the green lines being the house and backyard fencing. You can see the proposed location of the new shop on top of one of the old barns. I will salvage the tin and wood from the barns to use in the new shop.


I have been playing around with several free building design programs while offshore and this is what I have come up with. My shop will be a combo on the following:

From Mueller metal buildings (The free software wouldn't let me design the inset bay so this is just a 40x60x14 with the lean-to)


From Icon Buildings free software: (For some reason this software wont let me include a lean-to but lets me do the inset bay.)

Front:


Back:


This is kinda what I have planned for the interior. I need room for the following:

1. My crawler ('82 Toyota soon to be truggy)
2. Dads 55' Ford Customline 2-door project
3. Brothers '80 Cj-5
4. two riding lawn mowers (probably under the lean-to)
5. Future go-fast car project

The dirt squirrel ('82 Toyota on 44s, 6.0l LQ4, 1-tons, pure awesome)


My '79 Yota DD on Tacoma frame 2rz, 5-speed (Will be parked under the covered portion when not in use):


Ignore the Ferraris as the floorplanner.com program didn't have anything else cool to use.

Plan view:


I put the 2-post lift near the back door. My thoughts were that even though its far away from the work bench, its out of the way and I can still drive a truck through the shop and work on it. I setup the rollup doors so I can drive a truck and trailer through without having to back in.

Back corner will be a storage loft over the dirty part of the shop. Underneath will be the chop saw, drill press, bench grinder, etc. Hopefully this will keep the dust in the shop confined in that space. Everything else is self explanatory. Shop will have a wood burning stove for the "winter" and fans to cool things down in the summer. Building will be insulated top to bottom.

2nd Isometric 3d interior pic:


3rd Interior:


Any thoughts, opinions, or ideas? This will be my first real shop, so any advice would be helpful. Im about 45 minutes SW of Houston, so If anyone has a hookup on concrete, contractors, vendors, suppliers, etc, let me know. Im not set on what brand of building im going with, but will take quotes from a few when I get back. Im leaning towards Mueller as they have a huge office 15-mins down the street from my house. I hope to get everything installed for $50k budget. (I may be crazy there as I really don't know how much any of this will cost)
 
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That's gonna be kickass!. Congrats and good luck.
 
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I hope its as cool as it is in my head whenever im done. Been reading up from others as what to do and what not to do. Still have a lot more to learn and thankfully GJ has all the info I will ever need.
 
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Hey roomie. Probably in 3 months or so after I get a few things lined out and I get back from Alaska. Your rent may have to go up. HAHA.
 
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A little revised interior view with a bathroom installed. The bathroom will be 4x6.5ft and have a ******* and a sink. I will try to make this work if at all possible.

 
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Took the squirrel out wheeling this weekend and came home to this:
Construction has begun.
Front shot


Side


Back side




As you can tell, the yard is pretty muddy from all the rain we seem to have every week. They are going to come in afterwards and do the dirt work before the concrete. Should have the roof on today when I get home.
 
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That will be a nice shop.
Have any pics of Dads 55' Ford Customline 2-door project

ill try to post some up. Right now its an all stock 55 with a rusted out front frame crossmember making it super unsafe to drive at any speed over 10mph. We have another frame section that we plan on using to fix her up. Its just going to me a factory stock cruiser for my pops.
 
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lookin good. why a pole build and not Mueller, etc?

jim

Went pole for a couple reasons. Concrete price was a lot less with the pole barn. I also feel like its going to be easier to finish out the interior. Plus the contractor I used came highly recommended and didn't let me down...so far.
 
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the crew finished 95% of the metal work. Concrete gets poured tomorrow, then the doors can be hung and the front wall can be finished. Then its onto the interior framing so I can insulate then hang plywood/old barn wood to finish out the inside.

 
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Concrete is in. Now just waiting on the doors and electricity.



Had some xtra concrete so I had them pour me a pad for my compressor and a sidewalk connecting the front to the side door. Came out nice.
 
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Do anyone see an issue with using rolls of fiberglass insulation to insulate the walls? An issues with moisture from the metal creating mold problems? I am planning on framing up the interior with 2x4s at 24" on center between the poles. Spray foam is probably out of the equation due to the cost.
 

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Who did you use? How did your $50k budget work out? What is the wind load rating? Looking to do something similar. I'm in Rosharon. Thanks!
 
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Well its been a while but some work has been done. My contractor finally had the doors installed and sent his electrical sub out to do the electricity. Long story about why it took so long, but its finally heading towards the finish line. I went ahead and starting to frame up the lower 8ft of the walls over the weekend and the electrician was in sunday and yesterday installing the power.

Some pics:
Rear door


Front doors:


Wall framing at 24" OC. The East wall is going to be barnwood from the barn (my old shop) and the remaining walls are going to be 5/8" plywood.



Panel. Had them use steel instead of Romex


220v overhead for my future lift.


Started on my workbench until i ran out of nails.


After the electricity is installed, I can install the plywood and start moving my stuff over from the old shop. Plan is have everything out, then slowly demo it and preserve the old wood thats in it to use on the east wall. I also want to hang the tin on the upper 6ft of the walls all the way around. It has a nice patina to it and will hopefully finish out the interior walls. Then i can focus on the bathroom and plumbing. After I completely demo the old shop and remove the old concrete, I am going to do some dirt work around the shop and put in a nice gravel driveway to the front.
 
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quick question. Should I use some concrete nails to nail the bottom board to the floor or just leave it be? I only plan on hanging signs, a tv, neon lights, etc to the wall. I will build shelving from the ground up for the heavy stuff.
 

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quick question. Should I use some concrete nails to nail the bottom board to the floor or just leave it be? I only plan on hanging signs, a tv, neon lights, etc to the wall. I will build shelving from the ground up for the heavy stuff.

The wall will move when bumped if it is not tied into the structure top and bottom.

I don't care for concrete nails. Prefer Tapcons. I also run a bead of construction adhesive.

Is there any way you can tie in the studs to the girts?

What gives with the red studs?
 
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The wall will move when bumped if it is not tied into the structure top and bottom.

I don't care for concrete nails. Prefer Tapcons. I also run a bead of construction adhesive.

Is there any way you can tie in the studs to the girts?

What gives with the red studs?

The studs are toe nailed in to the base girt and nailed to the top one as well.

The red studs are framing studs from lowes. The are pre-cut short and when combined with a 2x4 on top and a 2x6 on bottom are 8ft in total height. Easier than having to cut 3" off every stud.

Never heard of a tapcon. I'll check those out.
 
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Thanks. It's been a long time coming. Can't wait to get it all finished and enjoy it for years to come.
 
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Continued work on the work bench. Just need to add the bottom two sheets of plywood and it will be ready to move into its new location.

 

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that's really looking good. have you already torn down one of the two old barns? i guess you will go with an insulated ceiling along with the walls. i know it can get a tad warm where you are. (i grew up in houston). good luck and keep us up to date with lots of pics.

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that's really looking good. have you already torn down one of the two old barns? i guess you will go with an insulated ceiling along with the walls. i know it can get a tad warm where you are. (i grew up in houston). good luck and keep us up to date with lots of pics.

jim

Havent started to tear down the one yet (the other is staying up as my water well is in there and is a good place to store the lawn mowers). I still need to move everything over once the electric is finished. The ceiling has the reflective bubble type insulation already installed. Im not going to insulate the rest of it. Going to have a couple roll around 48" box fans for the summer time and a wood burning stove for the "winter". The doors arent insulated and are facing north so I dont think spending the money to insulate the walls would be worth it.
 
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Finished up the workbench and built a shelving unit with four 4x8 shelves. Should be plenty until i get the loft built in the back corner.

 
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