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Harbor Freight 44" Toolbox Caster Failure and Repair

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I have a couple of HF 44" boxes. I have one of the older boxes with the darker red matte finish, and a I have a newer box with the glossy lighter red paint. I recently went to move both boxes and the rubber on the wheels just fell apart.





This made moving the box both hard and dangerous. As the box went from bare steel to rubber the box would sway and required you to pay attention to what you were doing. I have a pallet jack and just ended up using it to move the box.

In looking online I see this is not an uncommon issue. There is a YouTube video of how to re-enforce the floor of the box, and also how to modify the factory caster to accept a wheel with a 1/2" axles (the factory axle is 12mm), as the creator of the video was told the HF box has a "proprietary caster".

I live in the Houston area, and there is a company on my way to work that does nothing but sell casters. So I took my busted caster into them to see what kinds of wheels they had, and what my options were.

The first thing I found out was that the HF caster frame is a standard caster frame. So, you can buy a full caster (caster and frame) to replace the HF unit instead of re-drilling your HF caster frame.

In looking at the casters this vendor had, the most expensive caster in 5"x2" was a Carlson caster with a 1000# load rating that retailed for ~$14 for the caster wheel only. Axles were $2.79, and bearing were $.89.

I ended up going with a new China frame (much thicker than the HF frame), and a black Polyurethane wheel with a plastic center. The wheel is rated at 450# each, and is a roller bearing wheel. The wheel is from China as well.








For about $1 per wheel I could have moved up to a U.S. made Carlson wheel that was a dark red/burgundy color. The 1000# wheels are medium blue in color with an aluminum center.

I picked up the box with a pallet jack and swapped all 4 casters in about 5 minutes. The box now rolls great.







Complete rigid (non-steering) casters were ~$18, and complete swivel casters were ~$28 (complete meaning the frame, axles, bearings, wheel and brake). Total cost with tax was $96. I plan to replace/upgrade my other box as well. I just want to give these wheels a little time to see if it is warranted to move up to a more expensive wheel.

So, to anyone who runs into the same issue I did, you should be able to go to any material handling company and buy a decent caster and fix your box without a lot of fabrication required if you desire to go that route.

I have not posted the name of the vendor I used, as I am not sure if there is a supporting vendor on this site that I might conflict with. If there is not an issue, I can post the contact information of the vendor I used if anyone is interested.
 
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Since you own and have used both extensively it sounds, which version of the HF44" do you think is built better?
 

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I don't like funding communist China......

Just focusing on your statement (which I concur) isn't the entire purchase the bigger story besides just the replacement caster(s)?
 

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My 44" cabinet is bolted to the wall. I didn't bother to remove the casters, because the top was at just the right height.
I will someday block it up with some 4x4 lumber so the casters are not at risk. (Except for the rubber rotting or the metal disintegrating.)
 
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J-R0d

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Guys, to answer your question, I bought the wheel i did because I was looking for a red or black wheel to match the box. I just wasn't wild about the other wheels. Keep in mind that it is a Chinese box to start with. The caster frame was made in China as well.

So I understand and appreciate the idea of buying American. If there had been an American caster I wanted I would have gone that route.
 

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J-R0d, thank you for the informative thread. :thumbup:

I'm planning to pick up one of the 44" HF boxes, and have heard a few people have had issues with the caster, it's good to know there is a simple fix *if* needed.
 

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I need to replace my fixed with swivel. 44" box with side box on each end gets hard to move around in the garage with one end fixed. Might as well do all 4.

I have a metric ton of casters here at work from classroom lecterns we install. Do you have the foot print measurements of the 4 bolt holes where it mounted to the bottom of the box?
 

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Do you think this happened from lack of movement? The wheels just develop a flat spot then bad goes to worse? Do they make tool box jack stands for prolonged non-movement?
 

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So where did u buy the wheels....I don't think anyone will care that u post it...

Sadly he never posted again...

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Do you think this happened from lack of movement? The wheels just develop a flat spot then bad goes to worse? Do they make tool box jack stands for prolonged non-movement?

No its just cheap china wheels. My Snap On box is about 20 years old and still riding on the original casters. I guarantee its twice the weight of a HF box.
 

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The first thing I found out was that the HF caster frame is a standard caster frame. So, you can buy a full caster (caster and frame) to replace the HF unit instead of re-drilling your HF caster frame.

Does anyone know the caster frame size?

I want to replace my casters with swivel casters or fixed casters rotated 90 degrees.

With two fixed wheels facing sideways, it can't roll forward and back. I suppose that makes sense in some applications, but it's a bad design choice for my use. The box would work much better for me if I could move it forward and backwards.
 

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Does anyone know the caster frame size?

I want to replace my casters with swivel casters or fixed casters rotated 90 degrees.

With two fixed wheels facing sideways, it can't roll forward and back. I suppose that makes sense in some applications, but it's a bad design choice for my use. The box would work much better for me if I could move it forward and backwards.

Have you checked if it's square? If it is, you can just rotate them 90 degrees.
 

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Have you checked if it's square? If it is, you can just rotate them 90 degrees.



That was my first thought. Would be the easiest thing. From peering under the cabinet it looks like the flange is rectangular, and won’t fit in the channels if rotated.
 
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Just curious why you didn't go with the USA made wheel if it was only 4% more money overall?
:headscrat lets see here...
4% times 100,000 boxes equals 400,000% times $400 = it would have cost HF $160,000,000 :eyecrazy:

:lol:

For real, though, if they can save $1,000,000 year (saying 100,000 boxes per year) by putting cheaper casters on a box, that 95%+ of the customers never move, and of the 5% that do move them only a fraction of those people have any trouble, why throw away that profit? Maybe a couple thousand customers experience problems, but a couple hundred thousand customers have no issues. I'd take the million bucks. That money will gas up Smidt's fancy new Gulfstream for the year.
 

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lol it built to price, at least casters easy replacement, the standard ones and cheap ones degrade in a few years, getting a good solid frame and bearing is a must if moving box and pretty much an upgrade anyone using a 56" or 72" in pro environment wants do so budget that in when purchasing your cheap box and be sure pay lowest coupon price they do as they not worth a dime more .
 

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I just bought a 44" box a few weeks ago that had the exact same issue. Considering I rarely (if ever) move my boxes, I simply laid it on its side and pulled all the wheels off. I then removed what was left of the rubber, leaving nothing but the steel wheels themselves. You can't leave it at that, though, as the castings are rough and uneven in spots. I hit each one with a sanding belt to even them up, and cleaned/greased each wheel....which, by the way, use a smaller than standard zerk fitting. Now the box rolls with ease, and has been filled with tools and parked in its semi-permanent location.
 

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Just be careful of wheel choice for casters that may not move much. I bought some cheap polyurethane casters for an implement dolly. They worked great- until it sat for 6 months. The wheels flat-spotted so bad I could barely move the 1200 lb. implement. I bought replacement phenolic wheels, and now it rolls great.
 

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No its just cheap china wheels. My Snap On box is about 20 years old and still riding on the original casters. I guarantee its twice the weight of a HF box.


To me seems like a basic functionality of a wheel not decomposing like that a safety hazard.

What else on it decomposes, legitimate question and if that flipped over on a person the 'value' of a low price over a injury would cost 20x the box...
 

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Does anyone know the caster frame size?

I want to replace my casters with swivel casters or fixed casters rotated 90 degrees.

With two fixed wheels facing sideways, it can't roll forward and back. I suppose that makes sense in some applications, but it's a bad design choice for my use. The box would work much better for me if I could move it forward and backwards.

To answer my own question, using the "put the iPhone X face up on the concrete floor, use the front camera as an illuminated periscope, measure the mounting flange with a measuring tape" method, it looks like the caster mounting plate is 4" x 4.5". Hopefully I'm not wrong because I'm ordering new ones.

I did not have a free hand to snap pictures.
 

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Does anyone know the caster frame size?

I want to replace my casters with swivel casters or fixed casters rotated 90 degrees.

With two fixed wheels facing sideways, it can't roll forward and back. I suppose that makes sense in some applications, but it's a bad design choice for my use. The box would work much better for me if I could move it forward and backwards.

Several things and 1st time post.

I have the identical problem to the OP with the thin rubber around the wheels shattering for lack of a better word. For reference I have the "old" HF 44 which has the matte/crinkle finish and the 16" deep drawers(18" deep overall.) My recollection is I have had the box about 8 years. The box has served me well other than this issue. The box is rarely moved but has had no chemical exposure and is and has been located in a climate controlled room.

I had time last night to completely remove a caster from my loaded box. The HF caster plate measures outside 4 9/16 x 3 15/16" .The caster plate mount bolt spacing appears to be 3 5/16"(84mm) x 2 13/16"(71.5mm) and seems to correspond to the Colson MTG27 plate which has an overall measurement of 4 1/8 x 3 1/8". The Colson plate is smaller in both outside dimensions but maintains the same proportions to the mount locations.

Back on to this post, I have no idea why the fixed wheels would be mounted perpendicular to the long side of the HF 44. My fixed wheels are definitely on the longitudinal line of the box. Mine are mounted at the "front" of my box with the swivel casters at the "rear"/handle end. These wheels due to the rectangular mount pattern can't be put on sideways - no idea how you have arrived at that problem - its an odd one.

On your point of putting swivels at all four corners, you can definitely do that but you will slightly decrease the box's resistance to tipping so be a shade more mindful if you do that and are moving the box. Secure the drawers ahead of time etc. My .02.

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I have a 7 year old old matte finish 44" box, I have not moved it in 7 years. Now I am concerned... But good to know they use a standard bolt pattern caster...
 

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Happened to comes across this thread tonight as I would like to replace the stationary casters on my 44" boxes with swivel casters so that all four corners can rotate 360.
General research of various sites and inquiries with HF have been unsuccessful thus far, but buying them independently doesn't seem possible. Anyone on here sourced swivel casters that will fit the plate holes already?
 

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Happened to comes across this thread tonight as I would like to replace the stationary casters on my 44" boxes with swivel casters so that all four corners can rotate 360.
General research of various sites and inquiries with HF have been unsuccessful thus far, but buying them independently doesn't seem possible. Anyone on here sourced swivel casters that will fit the plate holes already?

From Post 27:
I had time last night to completely remove a caster from my loaded box. The HF caster plate measures outside 4 9/16 x 3 15/16" .The caster plate mount bolt spacing appears to be 3 5/16"(84mm) x 2 13/16"(71.5mm) and seems to correspond to the Colson MTG27 plate which has an overall measurement of 4 1/8 x 3 1/8". The Colson plate is smaller in both outside dimensions but maintains the same proportions to the mount locations.

I Googled "Colson MTG27" and found this:
http://www.colsoncaster.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/ColsonCatalog2017_R8_020_021.pdf

Good luck!
 

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Just remember that with 4 casters the box will move around when you open or close the drawers depending on how smooth your floor is..
 

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Forgive my ignorance but if you put for swivel casters on a box would there being any disadvantages assuming that they all have a locking mechanism?
 

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I have a few 70 year old Snap-on chests that needed new wheels. I got new swivel casters with all steel wheels rather than rubber. The steel wheels are meant for rolling on concrete and I wonder why they aren't more popular. They wont get flat spots and wont go bad with age.
 

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yeh good caster set is 100bucks pretty easily .
Would be fairly easy change plate centres if had to as options on the original centres bit limited .
The boxes only work out good value pending on intended use and if you got them rock bottom coupon or clearance price .
The 56 and 72" more expensive for no real gain. the 26 and 44" has gained 4" depth but price and less coupon reduction is result of it .
Looking for decent used or other half decent brands on clearance sale is a must, my lad picked up 2 56" international open box clearance for fraction more than 1 HF one .
 

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Happened to comes across this thread tonight as I would like to replace the stationary casters on my 44" boxes with swivel casters so that all four corners can rotate 360.
General research of various sites and inquiries with HF have been unsuccessful thus far, but buying them independently doesn't seem possible. Anyone on here sourced swivel casters that will fit the plate holes already?

I replaced mine with these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NCZYYL7/?tag=atomicindus08-20
 

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I have a few 70 year old Snap-on chests that needed new wheels. I got new swivel casters with all steel wheels rather than rubber. The steel wheels are meant for rolling on concrete and I wonder why they aren't more popular. They wont get flat spots and wont go bad with age.

If your floors aren't perfectly flat and clean, they don't roll.
 

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Thanks very much everyone! I find it ironic that Harbor Freight doesn't sell replacement swivel casters for their boxes. Went to HF, Home Depot and Lowe's yesterday and no dice.
I'm going with all four swivel w/top brake and polyurethane wheels because my boxes need to pushed straight back into a garage recess. I can't 15pt turn them in there. I have two 44x22" boxes and they will all be connected together with a 14.5" side cabinet for 97" of cabinet space.
 

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Harbor Freight equipment and still b*tching about prices. They're the absolute cheapest brand new tool boxes on the market. Are you really that cheap? New boxes gain 4" in depth for the entire tool box.
Thank God HF is listening to its whiny cheapskate consumers and putting them on sale for $399 for Black Friday to make you happy.
So, at $300 they're disposable but at $400 they're a complete ripoff and not worth the money?

These boxes just seem
to be getting to be a worse deal all the time. I was going to buy 2 to 4 of them to use as shelving under my new garage workbench. when you could get them for $300 or even $325, that made sense. Now, at $400 lowest price to $450 or more, they're not quite as attractive a price.

Last week I bought a nice 53" Snap-on cabinet for $600. It's also 22" deep. Made in 1987, but still sound today. If I was going to use it for mechanics tools, it's a much better deal than the HF 44's. I do recognize that I'm comparing used, excellent deal, to new retail.

The real value in the better boxes comes in the longevity. Casters falling apart doesn't seem like that big a deal. But, you have to pay about $100 to repair them, the $400 to $450 box becomes a $500 to $550 box. Slides fail, or welds fail, and all of a sudden it starts looking like a bad deal. Wasn't as bad when it was a $300 box, and you could look at it as a disposable.
 
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