Wilton 63201 Tradesman 6-1/2" Round Channel Vise with Swivel Base

craftsman47 · Dec 19, 2015

was asked to start its own thread on this one.....so here we go.

MixManSC posted this from ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wilton-6320...-Channel-Vise-with-Swivel-Base-/301829623647?

looks too good to be true.

However, I bit on it. I ordered one, and the seller is communicating to date.

supposed to ship Monday.

Ill post progress, or lack of it as it occurs. If I get it, Ill post a pic.

Alot of naysayers so far, but should be protected with Ebay if it doesnt deliver.

rice rocket · Dec 19, 2015

You're going to make a lot of people angry by posting a "deal" that's already over.

PoorOwner · Dec 19, 2015

He has relisted another 8 and then another 4 claiming it is the last 4.
the location and signature style and kind of name used is highly alarming.

It sold fast cash flow wise because people are buying 2 or 3 .. man some people are greedy, I think they want to resell it themselves.

andgott · Dec 19, 2015

This should be an interesting one to follow- I seriously thought about ordering one, but don't really NEED it, so I didn't want to deal with the potential headache. Those who DID order one will be getting a great deal, if delivered... Otherwise, We might just have some good entertainment.

I'm going to pop some popcorn, sit back, and watch this one play out

Spn1025 · Dec 19, 2015

Sorry, didn't have any yellow paper

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AnthonyJ124 · Dec 19, 2015

Spn1025 said:
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I laughed out loud at this. Thanks for that.

Good luck with the purchase. I'm still waiting for my miller 211 to show up, maybe Santa will put it under the tree...

Ign · Dec 19, 2015

From Canada, just like the M211's

Digital4n6 · Dec 19, 2015

71 pounds, free shipping? no.

Red Box · Dec 20, 2015

How Much $ ? 265 now

MixManSC · Dec 20, 2015

They were all sold at $265.00 and they sold 20 of them in total. Quick $5300.... Keeping my fingers crossed (I only bought one) but not feeling terribly hopeful that I'll actually get a shiny new vise.

CNGsaves · Dec 20, 2015

You . . might . . be getting a shiny new . . . . . Wilbton !!

Slight type-o for Chinese knockoff !

bucksnort59 · Dec 20, 2015

MixManSC said:
They were all sold at $265.00 and they sold 20 of them in total. Quick $5300.... Keeping my fingers crossed (I only bought one) but not feeling terribly hopeful that I'll actually get a shiny new vise.

More likely a shiny piece of paper and a big brick.

MixManSC · Dec 21, 2015

Just got a FedEx shipping notice! 60lb package via FedEx 2 Day. Its a legit notice from FedEx too. Shows a place out of Naperville, IL for returns.... :headscrat

Also it shows 60lbs but the shipping weight on a couple of retailers like CPO is 71.3 lbs. That's not really uncommon though for shipments to not indicate their exact correct weight as a lot of places simple do not have the ability to accurately weigh something for shipping.

Spn1025 · Dec 21, 2015

MixManSC said:
Just got a FedEx shipping notice! 60lb package via FedEx 2 Day. Its a legit notice from FedEx too. Shows a place out of Naperville, IL for returns....

Sweet, post when it arrives. Just a heads up though, when someone pays for shipping through eBay, you can punch in whatever weight and dimensions you want, and I don't think that gets changed by FedEx. Not trying to scare you, I'm just not sold that this is legit yet. Hopefully it is...

MixManSC · Dec 21, 2015

Oh I'm not totally convinced either.... this does however give a bit of hope. That place in Naperville does not seem to exist. Searching for that brings up nothing so no telling really since there is not actual address listed. If there was an actual address we could at least look it up. Right not the tracking just shows "shipment information sent to FedEx". Guess we will know at least a little more later this evening if the tracking actually shows it as a live shipment and not just a label created.

Also - this a label created directly in the FedEx shipping software (FedEx Ship Manager). eBay still has no tracking information showing on my purchase. I'd have the tracking number in my eBay page if they had created the label through the eBay system.

JonnyC · Dec 21, 2015

Probably just like the Miller 211. Too bad I threw out the 70 lb yellow paper I received

tarbellb · Dec 21, 2015

PoorOwner · Dec 21, 2015

Our only glimpse of hope here that this is shipped from about 30 miles from Wilton factory. Or is that only the address for return.

The guy can enter anything and ship a piece of paper

exmaxima1 · Dec 21, 2015

PoorOwner said:
Our only glimpse of hope here that this is shipped from about 30 miles from Wilton factory. Or is that only the address for return.

The guy can enter anything and ship a piece of paper

And until it gets a Fedex scan it's still just a notice. The seller might possibly be trying to buy some time.....

PugetDude · Dec 21, 2015

Subscribed for the disappointment.

MixManSC · Dec 21, 2015

Gots me an update email from FedEx!.....
Hopefully xmas

but could very well be....
:Violent:

JonnyC · Dec 21, 2015

Fyi, you included a screenshot with your full name and address.

PugetDude · Dec 21, 2015

JonnyC said:
Fyi, you included a screenshot with your full name and address.

Too late, he's already subscribed for a dozen magazines, ****** and ****** delivery, and and a dozen "free" ads for his tools on Craigslist...

exmaxima1 · Dec 21, 2015

MixManSC said:
Gots me an update email from FedEx!.....
Hopefully

but could very well be....

Fedex 2 Day costs $175 for 60 lbs from Naperville IL to SC 26169. This is becoming increasingly less likely to be legit....

PeterT · Dec 21, 2015

Looks legit to me, good luck and enjoy those nice vises.

PeterT · Dec 21, 2015

PugetDude said:
Too late, he's already subscribed for a dozen magazines, ****** and ****** delivery, and and a dozen "free" ads for his tools on Craigslist...

A dozen dirty magazines.....

JVB · Dec 21, 2015

exmaxima1 said:
Fedex 2 Day costs $175 for 60 lbs from Naperville IL to SC 26169. This is becoming increasingly less likely to be legit....

Business accounts save more money than you would ever believe on shipping. However you never know until it is in your hands. Good luck to all.

PoorOwner · Dec 21, 2015

It is picked up from ELK GROVE VILLAGE, IL.

This is interesting indeed, could it be drop shipped from Wilton ex employee?

This is about as exciting as the $250 minimum blackjack table at the casino

MixManSC · Dec 21, 2015

Yup..... might be a box of bricks. One thing for sure. They at minimum spent a chunk of change just on shipping. Even if it is bricks. Not worried about my name and address..... its public no matter what. The address is my business (I have a sign company). Not that it would be hard to find my home address either. Such is the way of the internet nowadays when it comes to personal info. Just about everyone is out there and easy enough to find if one is determined to look for it. Try googling your first and last name with your city and state. Odds are pretty high you will find yourself.

exmaxima1 · Dec 21, 2015

JVB said:
Business accounts save more money than you would ever believe on shipping. However you never know until it is in your hands. Good luck to all.

Even if it was 50% discount (and based on my business acct, it is not), that's still a boatload of money to offer under "free shipping". Makes no sense how the seller is in Canada, lists item as "in Canada" (when it's not), only offers shipping to USA, then provides free 2day Fedex when the item was listed as UPS Standard delivery. The whole thing looks like a scam to me.

JonnyC · Dec 21, 2015

MixManSC said:
Not worried about my name and address.....

Ok cool, I was just giving you a heads up in case you didn't want it out there.

If it is a piece of yellow paper like mine was for the welder, try to go through Paypal first as Ebay support wasn't the greatest for me. I had to have the local sheriff stop by and write up a report in order to get my money back.

Spn1025 · Dec 21, 2015

Oh the suspense.. lol

Well, hoping for the best here, but this is fishy as hell.

PeterT · Dec 21, 2015

exmaxima1 said:
And until it gets a Fedex scan it's still just a notice. The seller might possibly be trying to buy some time.....

775257188850 shows picked up, and has est delivery date of 23,, its legit the guy isn't going to send 60lbs of brick 2 days with fedex.

JonnyC · Dec 21, 2015

PeterT said:
775257188850 shows picked up, and has est delivery date of 23,, its legit the guy isn't going to send 60lbs of brick 2 days with fedex.

Fedex does not update the weight. If the sender put 60lbs on there, it will say 60lbs even after it's delivered. This was the hassle with when I got my piece of paper, as Ebay support said "but it says 70lbs".

Marv's Shop · Dec 21, 2015

JonnyC said:
Fedex does not update the weight. If the sender put 60lbs on there, it will say 60lbs even after it's delivered. This was the hassle with when I got my piece of paper, as Ebay support said "but it says 70lbs".

Not true. All the packages that go through the major FedEx sort centers are measured and weighed. I've shipped packages through FedEx where I guessed the weight, when I checked the tracking info the weight amount was different than from what I entered

MixManSC · Dec 21, 2015

FedEx will also bill you for the difference if you grossly underestimate the weight of a package too. lol

MixManSC · Dec 22, 2015

Another small update from FedEx. Now it shows the box dimensions on the FedEx web site. Its hit Tennessee and is scheduled for delivery tomorrow.

While I'm still very skeptical I'm also very hopeful. One thing that strikes me is that the seller shipped things fast! I mean if they are trying to get away clean with as much $$$ as possible I'd think they would delay as much as possible before shipping. They even put in a 5 to 15 day shipping time in the listing so they had some time to delay things a little. Instead they are making sure people get them for Christmas! Could very well be a lump of coal but maybe, just maybe we will get lucky.

firworks · Dec 22, 2015

You're getting something else methinks. Amazon says that vise weighs 73 lubs which helps corroborate the CPO tools weight. :willy_nil

PoorOwner · Dec 22, 2015

The weight is in the ball park
It is possible shipped 20 of them and got some kind of discounted weight.
Maybe it doesn't come with handles and lead screws

The dimension checks out..
I will be checking eBay feedback tomorrow to see if it goes negative

95riosnake · Dec 22, 2015

I looked through the ebay listing to see if I could find any red flags. Other than spelling errors, which aren't red flags these days online, the only thing I notice is at the very end of the description it says "Manual"

I googled the entire copy/pasted manufacturer info that he posted and it comes up on other sites, give or take a word... but none of them say "manual" on the line after the width measurement.

So this might be a great deal on a vise or a $265 Wilton Tradesman manual lol. Only time will tell.

Regarding shipping weight, I bought a base/motor/switch assembly for a jointer a couple weeks back. The UPS shipping information stated a shipping weight of 83lbs. The base couldn't weigh any more than 50lbs after having picked it up off my porch mightily expecting 83 lbs.

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