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The 42 Gladiator Cabinets Build Thread!

ket-tek

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Ok, alot of guys are probally wondering what the heck I was gonna do with 42 gladiator upper cabinets.

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Here goes the build thread.

I had not yet built any workbenches or storage in my new garage since the new house/garage was built last year. In my last house I had built everything from wood, and I wanted to do something more modern looking in this new space and once I saw the thread for the gladiators that cheap I went for it hoping I could modify them to work out, knowing I could sell them if I didn't like them or if I don't use all of them..

My plan was to make bases out of them by bolting two together to make them 24" deep since all the bolt holes on the front/side/rear all line up. They are a little short for a counter top at 28" so I figured I would use 8" cinderblocks to lift them up to a standard 36" counter height.

When I epoxy the floor I will do the cinderblocks also to make it look built-in.

I could have used a wood base or legs easier, but I wanted them to look more as part of the garage and to not have any gap from the floor to the cabinets, to eliminate dust, animals, cleaning, etc underneath.

I set all the blocks in place and used locktite adhesive that works good on concrete to stick the blocks together and to the floor. And after I was done I stepped back and looked how they were running downhill!

oops, I forgot the floor slab slopes towards the doors for drainage. over the 18.5' of cabinet length it drops 1.5" to much to not level it out, and to much to just use shims..

That's the delima and stopping point I ran into a week ago when hoping to get this done. So I filled the blocks with gravel, and built a wooden frame that was level and poured concrete on top of the whole run of blocks to make a level base.

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So it took 16 of the cabinets built upside down to make the 18.5' base section. It was definatly a pain to assemble but using a little 18v 1/4" Impact wrench and a couple different flex extentions and adapters it went pretty well.

On the "front" cabinets I have cut the backs down to leave a back behind the upper shelf. The doors will go on them for the lower half and used for double deep storage.

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I will be building a countertop and backsplash to go on top of these.. The uppers will use 8 more cabinets. And that will leave me with 18 still.

I have a couple ideas in another area of the garage where I was going to put a slop sink, and may do a similar install as these with a countertop and drop-in utility or resturant sink.

The bundle of black wires in the back right of the next pic are for the in-ceiling speakers, cable tv, hdmi, ir, and ethernet that I prewired when the house was built. That gear will be going in the first cabinet.

Any comments or questions good or bad, I'd love to hear'em. Or any other specific pics wanted. (although they are crappy cell phone pics sorry, I broke my camera a while ago and haven't got a new one yet, I keep going to lowes instead.)

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Q?.....the back row of cabinets...are they just for support or do you have access to use them?


It's hard to tell the depth in camera phone pics, and I haven't gotten around to installing new lighting in the garage yet.

But, yes the "rear" row is accessible, I cut the back out of the "front" row below the upper shelf. So there is some hidden height in the rear.. I tried to take a couple pics to show the depth differences better..

I found some bins that fit perfect for depth and fit 3 wide in the top front shelves.

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cool idea!! are you putting the doors on them? or leaving them open? cant wait to see it finished.mike.
 

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Where did you get the bins? Looks like they would be nice to use in any of the cabinets.
 

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OK when I heard that someone bought 42 cabinets I thought what an idiot with no self control. Now I take that thought back, that looks like it will be an awesome set-up. I dont think there will be any issue with lack of support for the workbench as long as the counter top is fairly stiff.
 
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What are you going to do with all the extra cabinet doors?

I will be putting the cabinets doors on the front. That will leave 8 extra pairs. I hadn't thought about it to much at this point, but I may hang on to them as replacements as they are pretty thin and being down low they may get dented up some over the coming years.
 
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Where did you get the bins? Looks like they would be nice to use in any of the cabinets.

I got the bins from an "american van" catalog that sells service truck shelving and organization stuff a couple years ago. I only have a few but they are just the right size. I'm going to look into seeing if they still carry them to get a few more.
 
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What are you going to stick on top? These will not have the strength or stability of a workbench.

It will get a 2" thick countertop plus some additional backing/bracing..

Trust me I had my concerns when I first began assembley. If the steel these cabinets are made of were any thinner it would be made of paper.

Once I got 4 bolted together tight I realized it is actually became super sturdy. 18.5' feet long of 16 cabinets when I picked up one end of this structure and moved it around there was absolutly no sagging, twisting, or bowing.

I also added more bolts around the framing where each cabinet meets another than just the predrilled areas it came with.

I was actually quite happy with the strength outcome, it is much stronger than I anticipated.. With a 2" top disributing the load evenly across it shouldn't be an issue.
 

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I wouldn't be so sure. Bolted together well, I would say you could set an engine on top if you wanted.
Maybe. But it seems that the cabinets are of thin gauge steel covered by a layer of textured enamel or powdercoat.

Edit: A 2" thick worksurface? You're probaby right then - that should be sturdy enough to dampen any instabilities. If you feel it to be sturdy enough, then I'll just take your word for it. =)
 
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nice job, I gurantee you couldnt buy anything like (as a unit) that for the price of those cabinets. never can get enough storage.
 

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Maybe. But it seems that the cabinets are of thin gauge steel covered by a layer of textured enamel or powdercoat.

Edit: A 2" thick worksurface? You're probaby right then - that should be sturdy enough to dampen any instabilities. If you feel it to be sturdy enough, then I'll just take your word for it. =)

Thin sheetmetal with all those bends is quite strong, though.
 

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nice job, I gurantee you couldnt buy anything like (as a unit) that for the price of those cabinets. never can get enough storage.

I agree. Looks great and I'm sure that it'll work out to about $50 a foot or so, right? My kitchen cabinets when we built our house were $200 a foot so I think you're on the right track.
 
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Man, I wish that I could have gotten my hands on just a few of these cabinets, yet alone 42 of them. That's awesome. Way to think outside the box with all of these.
 
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I agree. Looks great and I'm sure that it'll work out to about $50 a foot or so, right? My kitchen cabinets when we built our house were $200 a foot so I think you're on the right track.

I'm assuming you meant the total of uppers, lowers, and counter top combined but yeah it should turn out under $50 for sure..

Just for the base:

Take $29.50 ea x 16 cabinets = $472 then divide by 18.5 feet equals $25.51 per linear foot. Yeah wood could be cheaper, but for metal cabinets with doors I felt it was a good enough deal.

Now if it were $118 ea then it would be $102.05 per linear foot.. Not even remotely a good deal. Plus the intensive labor.

There not the greatest cabinets by a long shot. And I would feel ripped off if I bought these even 1 of these at $118.

Most of the panels fit great, but as mentioned by other members the manufacture tolerances must not be to strict on the brake machine because some of the panels seem to be off by a mm or so.. But once all together they look pretty good.

I'm happy enough with them, and it's a little to late now to not be.

I'll try to get alot more done with this project as the week goes on...
 

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Awesome idea and it's looking great! Any luck on finding a part number for the bins? At work we use American Van for the interior racks and storage for our technicans' vans, so we have an account. Those would be real handy to add in 2 of the 4 cabinets I manage to score.
 

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Genious in pictures, Ket-tek! You really had the foresight to make it all happen.

Can't wait to see your completed build, and of course the epoxy below!

-Marty (proud owner of four -- still in the box!)
 

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That was a very good idea.I also think that the top at 2" thick will not be an issue either.

It should be rock solid by the time you are done.

The cabinets them selves are pretty sturdy.Its the doors that are the cheesy part of them.
 
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Awesome idea and it's looking great! Any luck on finding a part number for the bins? At work we use American Van for the interior racks and storage for our technicans' vans, so we have an account. Those would be real handy to add in 2 of the 4 cabinets I manage to score.

I don't have a part number, I got them quite a while ago. But I did measure them and they are 11"d x 8"w x 7"h..
 
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Ok, I am anxious to get these finished, but I kind of changed gears. With the garage unpainted I did not want to start the uppers and then have to paint around them..

So I went ahead and put a coat Valspar new drywall primer on. I'm glad I used the primer first it turned out pretty good. I'm gonna try to finish the paint this weekend and get the uppers done next week. I just have to decide on what color of paint to use..

There is a local countertop company in town that does good work for fair prices I've used for different tops in the past, and I'm having them make the countertop and backsplash, it should be ready before thursday this coming week.

Thanks for all the great comments...

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So the A-235 bin fits inside the gladiator cabs with the doors closed and latched? yes?

Thanks,

That I don't know as I haven't put any doors on yet. I had only planned to using the bin on the exposed shelves on the cabinets..

When I find out I will let you guys know..
 
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ket-tek...
so do you plan to double up on the upper cabinets as well????

Wow, that would be intense.. I hadn't really though about doubling the top. I had planned on a standard upper/lower 12"/24" cabinet setup like a kitchen.

I had to build this entire cabinet in one peice on the floor so I could flip it over to get to all the bolts.

One gladiator is not all that heavy, but stack up 16 of them and try to pick it up! That's why you can see in the pics I built it on top of a row of boxes that were about the same height as the concrete so that it could be flipped and scooted into place..

You have me thinking though if it is something I may want to consider? I don't want to bang my head on the uppers leaning over the workbench though..

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most of us here WISH we had your problem....:bounce:

Wow, that would be intense.. I hadn't really though about doubling the top. I had planned on a standard upper/lower 12"/24" cabinet setup like a kitchen.

I had to build this entire cabinet in one peice on the floor so I could flip it over to get to all the bolts.

One gladiator is not all the heavy, but stack up 16 of them and try to pick it up! That's why you can see in the pics I built it on top of a row of boxes that were about the same height as the concrete so that it could be flipped and scooted into place..

You have me thinking though if it is something I may want to consider? I don't want to bang my head on the uppers leaning over the workbench though..

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Man the foundation for a couple of steel boxes is certainly "solid". I would have been tempted to build a steel angle iron frame that made more storage space underneath the boxes.
 
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Sure, here's what is current.

I've been out of town for a couple weeks, have been online here but not able to work on the garage.. I didn't feel the need to bump this thread til there were some progress pictures, because a build thread is worthless without them.

Last progress I had made was priming the wall and ordering the countertop, since then I have returned home and put two coats of paint on the wall, and actually just made it over to the cabinet shop today and picked up the countertop and backsplash that's been ready for pickup for a few weeks..

It's so freaking heavy there is no way I could unload it alone. So I have two friends coming over saturday afternoon to help me unload and place it. So expect some pics maybe sunday night...

Thanks for the interest in the project! I'm anxious to finish it so I can move on to the 100 other projects that need finishing..
 
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