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New to me truck, Cheap Paint!

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Hey some of you have been following my 'New to me truck" thread, well it is done for now and here is the painting prep and painting video for those of you who are interested.

 
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Came out great! I have heard that a white paint base coat is a good choice under red to make a bright strong red result. Do you have an opinion on this?
 
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Over all red is one of the hardest colors to paint.
Sberry got it right, a red tinted primer would be best. But you also have it right as well I white undercoat will make the paint "POP"

In this case I needed 3 coats to cover, where normally for a solid color paint two coats would be enough, hard to see but there are still areas where a fourth coat would have made things better.
 
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Any dry overspray from doing it in sections?

That was what I was worried about but I tried to break on body lines and it seems to have worked, that also might be helped due to the 3 coats and never ending exactly in the same spots.
 

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I worked at a place that contracted the paint work for Schwing bioset.
Painting pump units to their speck of 3 mil was a *****. Lots of dry over spray. After trial and lots of error, we ended up painting pumps with two guys. Each of us starting on opposite ends.
 

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Turned out nice! Brings back memories of the quickie and cheapie jobs I used to do back in my early days of painting. Looks very good!
 
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Turned out nice! Brings back memories of the quickie and cheapie jobs I used to do back in my early days of painting. Looks very good!

Yeah I have done several trucks this way, the last "real" paint job I did just the materials cost about half of what I have invested in this entire truck.

This one only had 1 goal, to look good from 20 ft and it does that, of course I can see every mistake and blemish, one of my buddy's stopped by tonight to see it and he loved it enough that he wants me to help him do one of his trucks.
 

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Ideally one would use a red primer under red paint. It's called value shading.

Common misconception... May be true when your wife is painting the living room with latex, but not true when dealing with automotive refinishing.

We did some experiments with various primers & actually got better results with grey primer under red paint than with red primer.

I believe it.. I never use red primer, ever...Gray/White/Black primers are my go-to with Black being what I typically shoot on my automotive/ag projects. I use the Gray & White primers from time to time in my modeling hobby.

When I painted my truck which is also red, I used black epoxy primer.
 

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Turned out well, especially fighting a video production at the same time! :lol:


Food for thought, red is semi-translucent and should be sprayed over the same color primer/sealer, any multi-colored areas under the red may show in sunlight..


Here's red sprayed over white sealer for the "pop" effect...


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Yeah I have done several trucks this way, the last "real" paint job I did just the materials cost about half of what I have invested in this entire truck.

This one only had 1 goal, to look good from 20 ft and it does that, of course I can see every mistake and blemish, one of my buddy's stopped by tonight to see it and he loved it enough that he wants me to help him do one of his trucks.

Ha ha! I've done some very nice jobs with 'cheap' paint. One of my favorites to do when I'm slow is use equipment enamel or Rustoleum and spray a vehicle. If I don't tell you after it's done people think it's name brand acrylic or bc/cc. The only issues are it takes forever to dry and you have to stay after it to keep a shine. Other than that, it makes an old junker look nice long enough to get some use out of it. I've done it several times for parents wanting a nice looking car for their kids but don't want to invest too much in a car.
 

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i bet in person, that truck paint look like ****, he did so many things wrong that if properly pick up every speck of dust in the shop
 

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i bet in person, that truck paint look like ****, he did so many things wrong that if properly pick up every speck of dust in the shop

It's better than it was though ain't it? The op never said he was shooting for show quality, he just wanted better. It's a beater that going to go to work, as long as it looks good at 20 feet it's served its purpose. While I can't do jobs like that myself due to my reputation. I will do my own type of quickie work, but it also has to pass my standards, which are high. Yes the spray technique could use a little work, but dang that truck is going to look a heckofa lot better than the rusty pile it was. I say you did good op keep the vids coming!
 

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Turned out well, especially fighting a video production at the same time! :lol:


Food for thought, red is semi-translucent and should be sprayed over the same color primer/sealer, any multi-colored areas under the red may show in sunlight..

Not that Roberts opinion needs backing but, I'll attest to that.

Was a pretty bad day when I sprayed this over grey and white sealer. Nothing like sanding down a nice paint job to do it again.

Red over white makes the red pop.

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It's better than it was though ain't it? The op never said he was shooting for show quality, he just wanted better. It's a beater that going to go to work, as long as it looks good at 20 feet it's served its purpose. While I can't do jobs like that myself due to my reputation. I will do my own type of quickie work, but it also has to pass my standards, which are high. Yes the spray technique could use a little work, but dang that truck is going to look a heckofa lot better than the rusty pile it was. I say you did good op keep the vids coming!

This it in a nut shell, look good from 20' is what I was after for this job.

There is no way I am going to put a 100 hr paint job on a truck that will be used as a truck not as a mall cruiser. (then again I have never owned a mall cruiser, all my trucks are for work, play or both)

And BTW It looks good from 20' hell it looks good from 10'
 

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Looks good, I am curious, how did your shop look afterwards? Ie... did you have alot of overspray dust on everything? I thought watching your video was oh man he's gonna be cleaning overspray dust forever
 
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No that gun has very little overspray, I bought it to do small stuff and found that it makes so little mess that I use it for most jobs now.

If you notice all the equipment got draped in plastic, the plastic has a good static charge and attracts dust, and it only showed a light pink when all balled up for the trash.
 
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I didn't bother to cover them for 2 reasons 1 being that I knew that there would be little overspray and 2 because I was not worried about anything on the shelves :lol: Really there is nothing on them that would be hurt by a little overspray.

Same goes for the floor, it is a working shop, and the epoxy has 10 years of overspray, drag marks, welding and grinding spatter.
 

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thats cool, I normally have to wait until warm weather then set up one of those temporary shelter tents or make a plastic room. I have too much stuff in my shop and more over spray from my spray equipment
 
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