I took the snow tires off 2 cars last weekend and decided to put a bunch of my impacts through tests. I did not perform any tests on lug bolts which are wheel lock bolts. I did not use my M18 1/2 2663 in the tests because it obviously is overkill. I wish I still had my old M12 3/8 Impact 2463 for this testing, previously when I used that it would sometimes take lugs off with an extension, other times it would only remove my lugs w/o extension, and occasionally not at all.
Tools used in tests
M12 Fuel 3/8 Impact 2454 w/ 2.0 Battery- 117 ft-lbs
M12 Fuel 1/4 Hex Impact 2453 w/ XC Battery- 100 ft-lbs
M18 Fuel Gen2 3/8 Impact 2754 w/ 5.0 Battery- 210 ft-lbs
M18 Fuel Gen2 1/4 Hex Impact 2753 w/ 2.0 Battery- 150 ft-lbs
M18 3/8 Impact 2651 w/ XC Battery- 167 ft-lbs
M18 1/4 Hex Impact 2656 w/ XC Battery- 125 ft-lbs
17mm Deep Impact Socket
6” Impact Extension - Obviously some power loss to be expected using this extension.
1/4 Hex to 3/8 Shockwave Impact Adapter
Car #1 - 17mm M14 43mm Lug Bolts - Torqued to 95 ft-lbs at beginning of winter 4 months ago. Didn’t use the older M18s on this test.
M18 Fuel 3/8 Mode 3 with 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease.
M18 Fuel 1/4 Mode 3 Hex adapter and 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease, I actually think the 1/4 did it a fraction of a second faster than Fuel 3/8.
M12 Fuel 3/8 Mode 2 with 6” extension, if M18 did it in 2-3 seconds, the M12 required more impacting so 5 seconds maybe.
M12 Fuel 1/4 Mode 2 Hex adapter and 6” extension, after 4-5 seconds it would not budge it, decided to put the socket straight on the adapter with no extension, 3 seconds later the bolt was removed.
Car #2 - 17mm M12 27mm Lug Bolts - Torqued to 95 ft-lbs at beginning of winter 5 months ago. Remembered about the older version M18s I have, they are new or nearly new.
M18 Fuel 3/8 Mode 3 with 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease
M18 Fuel 1/4 Mode 3 Hex adapter and 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease, didn’t notice a time difference compared to 3/8 this time.
M18 3/8 with 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease maybe a second slower.
M18 1/4 Hex adapter and 6” extension, took about double the time as the M18 Fuels.
M12 Fuel 3/8 Mode 2 with 6” extension, again about double the time of the M18 Fuels, about same time as the old version M18 1/4 Hex.
M12 Fuel 1/4 Mode 2 Hex adapter and 6” extension, after 4-5 seconds it would not budge it, this time instead of putting the socket straight on the adapter with no extension I decided to hit it again with extension still on, 5 seconds later the bolt was removed. The most shocking of all the tests that it was able to remove it with the 6” extension, I now don’t doubt any M12/M18 power specs.
Over in the Milwaukee Addiction thread it is often discussed which is best for removing lugs. As long as they are not seized the M12 Fuel 3/8 can work most of the time, but for consistent results the M18s Fuel or old version will provide the best outcomes. I would not rely on the M12 Fuel 1/4, although on both vehicles I was able to remove the lug bolts. I would expect faster results in all tests without extension or a shorter one. Thought I would create a new thread for my tests instead of burying it in another.
Tools used in tests
M12 Fuel 3/8 Impact 2454 w/ 2.0 Battery- 117 ft-lbs
M12 Fuel 1/4 Hex Impact 2453 w/ XC Battery- 100 ft-lbs
M18 Fuel Gen2 3/8 Impact 2754 w/ 5.0 Battery- 210 ft-lbs
M18 Fuel Gen2 1/4 Hex Impact 2753 w/ 2.0 Battery- 150 ft-lbs
M18 3/8 Impact 2651 w/ XC Battery- 167 ft-lbs
M18 1/4 Hex Impact 2656 w/ XC Battery- 125 ft-lbs
17mm Deep Impact Socket
6” Impact Extension - Obviously some power loss to be expected using this extension.
1/4 Hex to 3/8 Shockwave Impact Adapter
Car #1 - 17mm M14 43mm Lug Bolts - Torqued to 95 ft-lbs at beginning of winter 4 months ago. Didn’t use the older M18s on this test.
M18 Fuel 3/8 Mode 3 with 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease.
M18 Fuel 1/4 Mode 3 Hex adapter and 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease, I actually think the 1/4 did it a fraction of a second faster than Fuel 3/8.
M12 Fuel 3/8 Mode 2 with 6” extension, if M18 did it in 2-3 seconds, the M12 required more impacting so 5 seconds maybe.
M12 Fuel 1/4 Mode 2 Hex adapter and 6” extension, after 4-5 seconds it would not budge it, decided to put the socket straight on the adapter with no extension, 3 seconds later the bolt was removed.
Car #2 - 17mm M12 27mm Lug Bolts - Torqued to 95 ft-lbs at beginning of winter 5 months ago. Remembered about the older version M18s I have, they are new or nearly new.
M18 Fuel 3/8 Mode 3 with 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease
M18 Fuel 1/4 Mode 3 Hex adapter and 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease, didn’t notice a time difference compared to 3/8 this time.
M18 3/8 with 6” extension, took off a bolt with ease maybe a second slower.
M18 1/4 Hex adapter and 6” extension, took about double the time as the M18 Fuels.
M12 Fuel 3/8 Mode 2 with 6” extension, again about double the time of the M18 Fuels, about same time as the old version M18 1/4 Hex.
M12 Fuel 1/4 Mode 2 Hex adapter and 6” extension, after 4-5 seconds it would not budge it, this time instead of putting the socket straight on the adapter with no extension I decided to hit it again with extension still on, 5 seconds later the bolt was removed. The most shocking of all the tests that it was able to remove it with the 6” extension, I now don’t doubt any M12/M18 power specs.
Over in the Milwaukee Addiction thread it is often discussed which is best for removing lugs. As long as they are not seized the M12 Fuel 3/8 can work most of the time, but for consistent results the M18s Fuel or old version will provide the best outcomes. I would not rely on the M12 Fuel 1/4, although on both vehicles I was able to remove the lug bolts. I would expect faster results in all tests without extension or a shorter one. Thought I would create a new thread for my tests instead of burying it in another.