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I'm finishing my basement to look like the inside of an old barn. I didn't have a source for old wood, so with the help of Google, I found using black tea, steel wool, and vinegar. Here are a couple of pictures that show how the weathering turned out. I started with rough white pine, then added dents, splits, gouges and worm holes. I used an ax, block plane, screw driver, chain, and other implements of torture to give the wood some character.

This picture shows a piece before the tea and vinegar solution.





Right after application.


A couple hours later.



Installed.



I'm happy with the way it looks so far. I did a lot of experimenting with different strengths of the vinegar solution and tea to come up with the color I was looking for. More tea, weaker vinegar/steel wool gives a more gray, weathered appearance, but I was going for the inside, not outside of an old barn.

After making several gallons of the vinegar stain, I finally have a recipe to get to the color I want. To make one gallon, I start by pouring enough vinegar to make a full 12 cup pot into the coffee maker (this also is a great way to clean the coffee maker). I put two family size tea bags and two 0000 steel wool pads into the pot of hot vinegar (an old pot, not the one I use for coffee). After it soaks for at least 24 hrs, I use a piece of landscape fabric to strain it, then pour it back in to the remaining gallon of vinegar.



Even when I do it exactly the same, the color varies from one batch to the next. I try to make a batch while I still have a half gallon or so left, and mix the two batches together.
 
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Too often, trying to add patina to wood just makes it look beat up and dirty, but this came out real nice.

very much this ^
I was a little hesitant to click on this thread as so many times, when someone is trying to add age or patina to something, they get carried away and go overboard with it until it looks like a ratty piece of junk. this looks spot on for the look I imagine you are going for, nice work!
 

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I'm finishing my basement to look like the inside of an old barn. I didn't have a source for old wood, so with the help of Google, I found using black tea, steel wool, and vinegar. I won't go into the details of the process (you can google it), but I was happy with the results. Here are a couple of pictures that show how the weathering turned out. I started with rough white pine, then added dents, splits, gouges and worm holes.

I'm happy with the way it looks so far. I did a lot of experimenting with different strengths of the vinegar solution and tea to come up with the color I was looking for. More tea, weaker vinegar/steel wool gives a more gray, weathered appearance, but I was going for the inside, not outside of an old barn. I'll post more pictures when I get closer to finished with the project.

Can you post the link(s) you used as your guideline?
 

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You did better than I and I sometimes do this for a living. I didn't see the black tea part of the recipe when I looked it up. The vinegar attacks the steel wool and starts the process of making the solution. I have found some red wines to do the trick and pretty quick.
 
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Thanks for the comments. Ive seen a lot of wood that looks like they were trying too hard to make it look old, it is a challenge to get the right look.

I just googled steel wool and vinegar, here are a couple of links.
http://www.hardwoodfloorsmag.com/sa...use-vinegar-steel-wool-to-darken-a-floor.html

http://www.friendly-home.net/2012/07/finishing-how-to-oxidize-wood.html

http://www.wikihow.com/Age-Wood-With-Vinegar-and-Steel-Wool

The solution reacts with the tannin's in the wood, the tea adds more tannin to the wood.
 

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The only thing crazier than trying to make your basement look like the inside of an old barn is trying to make the inside of an old barn look like the inside of an old barn.

I'm converting an old barn to a shop. It's just a huge open space, and I'll be adding some walls and, um . . . "stalls" during the conversion. I plan to make the inside of the shop look like the inside of an old barn. I'll be keeping this recipe in mind!
 

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Bring it to my house for the weekend....I have 3 kids and 2 dogs. It will look 'old' by Monday morning....and smell good too.

BTW....nice work
 

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Dumb question. Once you are done does it make the room smell like vinegar? Do you seal it afterwards?
 

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that looks really nice, not like a lot of restaurants where they just make some hammer dents and poke holes with an awl....

did you make the rough sawn marks yourself? I heard you can take a cheap steel (not carbide) table saw blade and bend a couple of teeth a little bit offset, then run the board through on edge to get that rough sawn look, but I have not tried it...

anyway, great job!!
 
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Dumb question. Once you are done does it make the room smell like vinegar? Do you seal it afterwards?

The smell goes away in a couple of days. I experimented with a couple of sealers and didn't like the look as well, so I haven't put anything on it.

that looks really nice, not like a lot of restaurants where they just make some hammer dents and poke holes with an awl....

did you make the rough sawn marks yourself? I heard you can take a cheap steel (not carbide) table saw blade and bend a couple of teeth a little bit offset, then run the board through on edge to get that rough sawn look, but I have not tried it...

anyway, great job!!

I bought rough sawn lumber. I'm using rough lumber for the posts, braces, and beams, the wall covering is planed #2 white pine.
 
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Has anyone tried that with Cherry?

I haven't, but I have built with a lot of cherry. I just put clear satin poly on it and let it age naturally. it only takes a year or less to get the deep natural red color to come out, assuming you don't have much sap wood. not sure how it would look with that process, does cherry have a lot of tannin? I know oak does...
 
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After about 18 hrs the vinegar still is clear. further reading on net seems I should have rinsed the oil protectant off of the steel wool :eek:

Try it on a scrap piece, It was still clear when I applied it the first time. Color of the solution doesn't make much difference in the color of the wood.

When I first experimented with it I let the steel wool soak for about 3 hours, then applied it to a piece of pine. It didn't do anything, so I figured that I hadn't let it soak long enough. The next day I happened to see the scrap piece laying there, and the color was perfect.
 
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Getting back to this.
I tried it while the solution was clear and didn't get very good results. after several days the wool broke down ( I'm sure it had to do with factory rust resistant coating) and now I'm happy with the results.
Been trying different ratios of dilution, from full strength to 5water to 1 solution, I'm not seeing much difference in tone or darkness .
sampling on Ontario Pine
 

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Ive used muratic acid and pressure washed to get the grain to pop loose
this would give it more of a weathered look when you added the solution
 

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Well I finally got back to this project. spent several hrs figuring a formula that I could work with. I didn't want anything too dark.
my recipe was 1 pad of steel wool to 6 cups household vinegar. after it brewed for about a week the steel wool finally broke down.
I tried several variations of watering it down. tried 1:1, 1: 2, 1:5. 1:10 with water. finally ended up with 1:6 .
found if I added a little bit of dish soap it helped to break the surface tension and the brine seemed to go on easier/more uniform. without the soap I tended to get several pock marks where the brine didn't cover.
1 cup of solution to 6 cups water and a little squeeze of dish detergent , I ended up with the following results. ended up using about 8 cups of mix to treat about 400 sqft . I used a rag to apply and a small brush to get into areas that were say cracked, knots etc . I will also coat 2 coats of oil based urethane that has a golden tone to it. I'm happy with the finished product.

This is T&G pine that will be my garage ceiling, with rough sawn pine beams and posts made from 12" rough pine .

pic 1 shows an overview of my drying rack set up
pic 2 shows boards close up with solution applied
pic 3 shows a pc of untreated pine for a representation of colour that I ended up with
pic 4 shows the different colour variations depending on the amount of tannin in the wood.
 

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That looks great! I am going to steal your tip of adding soap, it does want to bead up until I brush it several times.
 

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Bumping up an oldish thread.
I used some of the original brine that I had left on a project today , and it has lost the ummmf . didn't tone the wood . I guess saving it was not such a brilliant idea. I have to make up some new stuff
 

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Wow. Thanks.

I've been collecting and refurbishing some old tools lately and want to display them in the shop/garage. I figured the best way was to build some sections of T&G pine to attached the tools to and hang the panels around the garage.

I was trying to come up with a way to finish the panels so they looked old, other than buying $15 worth of soft wood conditioner and then experiment with stain.
 
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I've restored the original pictures. I don't know why, but it seems like Post Image pics disappear after a while. The original pics were Photobucket, I'll never go back there again.

Here is a picture with the walls and ceiling finished. I still haven't decided what I'm doing on the floor.

 
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