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Hello All,

I had a Snap-On Industrial rep visit my shop today and all I can say is wow! The deals they have are fantastic. I work in Oil and Gas and cannot believe how much of a saving can be made in opening an Industrial Account. They are less than half list price. Has anyone dealt with them? I will post pics of their flyers shortly. They even sell Williams Tools which I always thought were excellent.
 
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hello all,

i had a snap-on industrial rep visit my shop today and all i can say is wow! The deals they have are fantastic. I work in oil and gas and cannot believe how much of a saving can be made in opening an industrial account. They are less than half list price. Has anyone dealt with them? I will post pics of their flyers shortly. They even sell williams tools which i always thought were excellent.
 

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While I agree the sale prices are unheard of and I get 25% and SO and 15% of Williams, the rep I have is a useless pile. Pretty much no interstate in dealing with the two times a year he stops by.
 
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While I agree the sale prices are unheard of and I get 25% and SO and 15% of Williams, the rep I have is a useless pile. Pretty much no interstate in dealing with the two times a year he stops by.

From what I understand all Industrial stuff is dealt with mail order over here. I might be wrong though. I have e-mailed him tonight as I want a few of the 3/4" Sockets sets as they seem like a great deal.
 

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I don't recall when the purchase was made, but Williams was bought by SnapOn some time ago and originally formed the basis for their industrial division. Because it is a lesser known brand by auto mechanics the prices can be less for the comparable SnapOn item, but with similar quality (although the shank has a boxier feel than the SnapOn wrenches).

The only reason I prefer the original Williams wrenches over the SnapOn/Williams (one-line w/box letter logo) wrenches is that the original (three-line w/script logo) Williams wrenches are longer for getting more leverage when wrenching, especially in the larger sizes.

The picture shows a comparison of a Williams #1176A 1-3/8" wrench sizes.
SnapOn/Williams on top, original Williams on the bottom.
The original is 2-1/2" longer.
(sorry, I don't have a metric rule to measure with)
 

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I don't recall when the purchase was made, but Williams was bought by SnapOn some time ago and originally formed the basis for their industrial division. Because it is a lesser known brand by auto mechanics the prices can be less for the comparable SnapOn item, but with similar quality (although the shank has a boxier feel than the SnapOn wrenches).

The only reason I prefer the original Williams wrenches over the SnapOn/Williams (one-line w/box letter logo) wrenches is that the original (three-line w/script logo) Williams wrenches are longer for getting more leverage when wrenching, especially in the larger sizes.

The picture shows a comparison of a Williams #1176A 1-3/8" wrench sizes.
SnapOn/Williams on top, original Williams on the bottom.
The original is 2-1/2" longer.
(sorry, I don't have a metric rule to measure with)

Snap on had an industrial division well before they bought Williams.
 

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I haven't been impressed by the Williams wrenches. Got some from Amazon and found the fit to be very sloppy. Sent 'em back and replaced them with Protos.

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From what I understand all Industrial stuff is dealt with mail order over here. I might be wrong though. I have e-mailed him tonight as I want a few of the 3/4" Sockets sets as they seem like a great deal.

Our rep doesn't carry anything with him other then flyers and a small ratchet repair kit in his car. Everything has to be order. I'm not sure exactly how he runs to bill, it is tax free, but shipping more then eats that up.
 

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I made the mistake of buying snap-on industrial from eBay. It turned out to be Williams brand. They were not the same. I ordered swivel impact sockets. On the first use some of the black finish chipped off and exposed a lighter metal beneath the black finish. Cosmetic not a big deal, but I expected better. He sizes are printed on the black metal finish, so when the numbers get scraped off, you can no longer read the size.

I posted in another thread a while ago about this. In that thread I posted some pictures of socket height and angle of swivel, which were different.
The Snap-On have the size stamped in the metal, and they are made of the same metal throughout, except the spring.
 

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I made the mistake of buying snap-on industrial from eBay. It turned out to be Williams brand. They were not the same. I ordered swivel impact sockets. On the first use some of the black finish chipped off and exposed a lighter metal beneath the black finish. Cosmetic not a big deal, but I expected better. He sizes are printed on the black metal finish, so when the numbers get scraped off, you can no longer read the size.

I posted in another thread a while ago about this. In that thread I posted some pictures of socket height and angle of swivel, which were different.
The Snap-On have the size stamped in the metal, and they are made of the same metal throughout, except the spring.

Sounds like you got the Taiwanese sockets. Williams do two lines of tools, USA and Taiwanese. If the part has a 5 digit product code then it's made in Taiwan. For example the 89 piece tool kit above is 50622 so that's made in Taiwan.

A made in USA 3/8" 19mm 6 point impact socket is 2M-619 while the Taiwanese is 36519. I'm very happy with my Williams USA made impact sockets which are identical to the Snap On ones. I'm also very happy with my Tekton impact sockets which are made in Taiwan but seem to be a lot better than Williams Taiwanese stuff.
 

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All USA made Williams tools have letters in the part numbers. All the Taiwan made stuff is just numbers. Example - USA# ABC123 Taiwan# 123456. Taiwan Williams is same as Bluepoint.

As for Williams being a lesser known name to mechanics, they've been in business since 1882 and purchased by Snap On in 1993. I don't think that's an accurate statement. Maybe less available in some cases, but they are a very well known name.
 

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i had a franchise dealer for over twenty years. He became a great friend, before going to the corporate side working as a industrial rep.

He has showed me the catalogs and has even brought by some of the industrial tool trucks that SO has. The trucks are aimed at industries such as airline, railroad, logging, mining, and I suppose a few more.

They certainly are not what he drives daily. He drives a Kia sportage around servicing his accounts.

The one thing he said was hard for him to transition to was they way product is sold. He was used to selling something in his truck that you could hand to the buyer. He was used to pricing an impact, set of wrenches or screwdrivers, a tool box, maybe a scan tool, along with many other things every week. Now he is asked about certain tools and usually in quantity.

He said in many ways it was like starting over. There was products that he never even knew SO sold or had had access to. Saw blades, shears, air tools made for installing only, torque wrenches that has interchangeable ends to meet torque specs for different applications so they never need a setting change. It was tools designed to make it easy for the user.

The other thing was pricing. The catalog did not seem very important other than for availability. Where he was used to selling sets of stuff before. Where he would price a set of sockets or screwdrivers before, he might be pricing fifty of one tool now, or twenty fully loaded tool boxes. Like any other business, quantity drives the price.

The biggest challenge for him was timing of the sales in most cases. As a dealer it was a year round deal, where now he is dealing many times with customers budgeting. Sometimes that was customers that needed to buy new and improved at the beginning of a fiscal year, or departments trying to use up one at the end of the year. Sort of a use it or lose it situation.

Most transactions he does now is nothing but the paperwork. Most are priced, delivered and paid for lump sum.

He has trade schools, and manufacturers and many things in between. Some of the largest accounts have a so to speak tool room, that are on a keep full status. They are manufacturers that an assembly line goes down, if there is not that tool there.

He says SO know what they are doing. They try to get schools to start students out on using their tools, to become customers for life. He also deals with manufacturers that are looking at quality and the longevity of a tool, rather than a price.

I would say that the OP is not the typical buyer for the industrial side. He maybe in a field that SO aims to service, and is getting some benefit of that.
 
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It's pretty sickening how much cheaper the stuff is than a "normal" truck price. Even at the industrial prices they will still be making a profit.
 

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It's pretty sickening how much cheaper the stuff is than a "normal" truck price. Even at the industrial prices they will still be making a profit.


How do you think I fell when they sell something for less than I can buy it from Snap-On?

Fortunately, they cannot sell to individuals, only the business.
 

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Sounds like you got the Taiwanese sockets. Williams do two lines of tools, USA and Taiwanese. If the part has a 5 digit product code then it's made in Taiwan. For example the 89 piece tool kit above is 50622 so that's made in Taiwan.

A made in USA 3/8" 19mm 6 point impact socket is 2M-619 while the Taiwanese is 36519. I'm very happy with my Williams USA made impact sockets which are identical to the Snap On ones. I'm also very happy with my Tekton impact sockets which are made in Taiwan but seem to be a lot better than Williams Taiwanese stuff.

Thanks, I checked the part numbers are all numbers no letters. It also saysTaiwan oneach socket. I do not like these, as much as I liked using myfriend's well used Snap-On, so I ended up getting the Snap-On set the next times good deal came around.

I tried to get a shot with an iPad mini but the pic does not look good to me. I tried to show the finish flaking off.
 

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I had a industrial snap on rep at my last job. It was nice having 30% to 50% off list prices. It definitely takes the hurt out of buying SO.
 
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i had a franchise dealer for over twenty years. He became a great friend, before going to the corporate side working as a industrial rep.

He has showed me the catalogs and has even brought by some of the industrial tool trucks that SO has. The trucks are aimed at industries such as airline, railroad, logging, mining, and I suppose a few more.

They certainly are not what he drives daily. He drives a Kia sportage around servicing his accounts.

The one thing he said was hard for him to transition to was they way product is sold. He was used to selling something in his truck that you could hand to the buyer. He was used to pricing an impact, set of wrenches or screwdrivers, a tool box, maybe a scan tool, along with many other things every week. Now he is asked about certain tools and usually in quantity.

He said in many ways it was like starting over. There was products that he never even knew SO sold or had had access to. Saw blades, shears, air tools made for installing only, torque wrenches that has interchangeable ends to meet torque specs for different applications so they never need a setting change. It was tools designed to make it easy for the user.

The other thing was pricing. The catalog did not seem very important other than for availability. Where he was used to selling sets of stuff before. Where he would price a set of sockets or screwdrivers before, he might be pricing fifty of one tool now, or twenty fully loaded tool boxes. Like any other business, quantity drives the price.

The biggest challenge for him was timing of the sales in most cases. As a dealer it was a year round deal, where now he is dealing many times with customers budgeting. Sometimes that was customers that needed to buy new and improved at the beginning of a fiscal year, or departments trying to use up one at the end of the year. Sort of a use it or lose it situation.

Most transactions he does now is nothing but the paperwork. Most are priced, delivered and paid for lump sum.

He has trade schools, and manufacturers and many things in between. Some of the largest accounts have a so to speak tool room, that are on a keep full status. They are manufacturers that an assembly line goes down, if there is not that tool there.

He says SO know what they are doing. They try to get schools to start students out on using their tools, to become customers for life. He also deals with manufacturers that are looking at quality and the longevity of a tool, rather than a price.

I would say that the OP is not the typical buyer for the industrial side. He maybe in a field that SO aims to service, and is getting some benefit of that.

One thing that impressed me was that they can actually manufacture tools with Lifetime Warranty in the USA branded Snap-On for a specific application. Don't get me wrong they are probably thousands of pounds, but it is nice if you need a tool made for a specific job.
 

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I was the buyer for my shop at Ford, and we bought Snap-On tools from the rep at industrial catalog price less 25%. He would also sell direct to me or anyone else that worked there for personal use at the same price.
 

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I was the buyer for my shop at Ford, and we bought Snap-On tools from the rep at industrial catalog price less 25%. He would also sell direct to me or anyone else that worked there for personal use at the same price.

Was your rep a Snap On industrial rep or a Snap On rep?
 

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I got lots of industrial stuff. The company would buy it for me. Yeah that's right.

Only in black.



If you actually use tools lots in environments that are exposed to oil & grease etc. the black finish will eventually go a nice gun metal colour.

Most of the stuff I got can be had out of the regular Book. Just more expensive to civilians.
 
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