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Declining Proto Quality (Reality check for GJ users inside)

Loscaldazar

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Okay, thread title was a little bit misleading. I don't actually believe Proto's quality is declining, I just wanted to make a point about some of the stuff said on GJ and the absurd judgements we make about some tools.

I recently ordered some Proto sockets to fill in a few of my sockets sets with sizes I didn't already had. Proto (especially with a 30% off at Zoro) was by far the cheapest, so I opted for them over Wright or SK. I received them today, and noticed a few things that made me chuckle.

First off, look at the inconsistent interior finish within these sockets! How horrendous! What kind of tool company has the interior of their sockets different!!! In reality, if you would like to know why this happens to sockets, from MANY manufacturer's read this!
Also, for an example that this is also present in Armstrong/Craftsman USA Sockets, look here!
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Ahhhh!! OH MY GOSH!!! Paint on the outside of a Proto socket!!! AHHH!!!


Look at that horrible broaching! The tools is useless!!!


And this last one technically isn't a Proto, but it is Mac, and we know that that's the same thing ;)

Look at the rust! How did quality control ever let this go!!! (In reality, this rust is why so many companies have moved to painting the inside of their sockets- it helps keep the rust off while in storage and also stays applied to the areas of the socket that don't make contact with a nut/bolt, protecting those areas for the lifetime of the paint).


Again, I don't actually believe Proto is declining in quality. I won't warranty any of the tools above or anything. Why? They're all actually great quality tools. They aren't jewelry, and they all were well made. Yeah, inconsistent interior finish doesn't get everyone foaming at the mouth in the "Show off your toolbox" thread, but they work well. The one socket may be broached slightly off, but the walls are plenty thick still for the size of fastener it will be used on (the fastener will break before that socket, if it doesn't then I'll warranty it!).

So for those of you who get a little too uptight about irrelevant details on your sockets, no, it's not just the QC department at one tool company, it's just that they aren't actually problems. The only one that could potentially be a problem was the off center broaching, but it's not like it was broached nearly as off center as my first set of Snap On flare nut wrenches!

(Also, for the more oblivious among us, the above post contains strong amounts of sarcasm at points, I'm not actually knocking Proto or Mac for anything)
 
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davethorik

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Good post - there are definitely two types of tool guys on GJ.

I have learned a lot here at GJ, including that some people actually try to warranty tools for reasons like this. I didn't know there was a group of people that buy tools and don't use them, just keep them polished. Waiting for the ko-ken fanboys at any time...
 

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I have learned a lot here at GJ, including that some people actually try to warranty tools for reasons like this. I didn't know there was a group of people that buy tools and don't use them, just keep them polished. Waiting for the ko-ken fanboys at any time...

Take a stroll through the 'anyone else like channellocks?' thread. A lot of people in there are no different than beanie babie collectors....
 

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This problem is easily solved.
I have a small jar of silver paint and a teeny-tiny paintbrush, and do a little touch-up work on all my sockets after using them. :lol:
 

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Take a stroll through the 'anyone else like channellocks?' thread. A lot of people in there are no different than beanie babie collectors....

Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. They are spending too much time shining their tools and obsessing over them rather than USING them.
 
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BK13

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This problem is easily solved.
I have a small jar of silver paint and a teeny-tiny paintbrush, and do a little touch-up work on all my sockets after using them. :lol:

Brilliant!

I don't have a ton of Proto, but what I do have is gorgeously finished and as far as I can tell, perfectly broached.
 

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I clicked on this thread with the intention of straightening out yet another idiot in the never ending stream of tool polishers. I cannot express my relief that it wasn't necessary.
 

Derek420

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Lol I just learned something, I had noticed the paint on some of my sockets and some without never gave it any thought or broached sockets being off center I never care as I think if it breaks I'll just get a new one.. And for rust I got plenty of that in a bunch of my sockets as I buy a lot of used and I just throw some oil on them and say the hell with it but I do oil down all my tools to protect them. I'm not one to knit pick stuff I just use them I do try to clean rust off the outsides but haven't figured out a way for inside but not to important.
I did get a brand new snap on ratchet recently that is a little rough, looks like whomever was grinding the head got distracted while doing one side and said to hell with it and threw it in bin. Ractchet looks like it tried to commit suicide with a shotgun and blew half it's head off. I might swap it out with my snap on guy idk I bought it of the website as I just got a snap on guy and just noticed it might swap for a green one or hard grip because he's cool and don't care he will do dollar for dollar with something I bought off website even though truck price is cheaper.
 

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joseph.a.owens.9

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I keep Mothers chrome Polish in my box for wrenches and such..... hahahaha

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Great Post!!

The only thing funnier than touch up painting sockets, is all of those people that buy a 20 mm socket or any other size that they'll never use, just to fill a peg on a Hansen socket rack :lol::wtf:
 

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Great Post!!

The only thing funnier than touch up painting sockets, is all of those people that buy a 20 mm socket or any other size that they'll never use, just to fill a peg on a Hansen socket rack :lol::wtf:

I can't help myself lol. I use Ernst trays now much better and my OCD thanks me.
 

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I thought warranty with Proto was easy :D Call them up and get it replaced.
Let's not enter OCD territory, I'm in the process of overcoming that. :lol:
 

helterskelter

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Here's a proto socket I got the other day. Had plating stuck inside it and had to be chipped out. Definitely no quality escapes here...

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