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ALL: as shiny as some of you make your old and new steel and wood shine anybody care to share their secrets or methods on how they do it?

from tools to compounds and techniques there are maybe hundreds of ways to make something better, but i'm sure there are a few basics that the beginners can use to get them started so post up your favorites.

i'll be one of the members asking all the questions cause even though i own a thousand pieces of sandpaper and more than a few hand and bench grinders and a 3/4 HP Baldor i certainly don't have the skills some of you do.

thanks in advance for helping me (us) learn how to shine up our STUFF
 

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Drives, you certainly keep things rolling along here on the GJ. Another winning thread you've started, I'm sure. I'll see if I can add anything to it.
 
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ALL: so you might have heard i really like using BLO (boiled linseed oil) on my vises and tools. i sometimes strip the old tools or just clean them up and put BLO on what's left of the old paint. the nice thing about BLO is that you can paint over it if you want to later, but in the meantime you have some rust prevention.

like anything though BLO doesn't last forever so you'll have to reapply fairly often as your shop conditions determine it.

some of the members put BLO on their tools and put them in their shop ovens or smokers, but i wouldn't use it in something that i cook food in to eat. also i heard the smell is not pretty so maybe set the smoker outside.

here's a vise (Reed 4c that is 6 inches wide and 170+ pounds) i had a member restore a couple years ago to show what a few coats of BLO looks like. if it's put on at 70 degrees it dries fairly quickly, but if colder it will stay sticky and much hotter and it might not set up so play with it and see what works best for you.

Dan: thanks for the support and yes post up yours or ask questions as you think of them cause there is lots to learn to get to the skills of some of our members.
 

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DD: yep i'll be 61 next month and i learn something new everyday here on GJ. like i mentioned i'll be hosting the thread and probably the one asking the most questions hoping the experts will show up and share their wisdom and knowledge. thanks for the support and hope you pick up a few good ideas.

feel free to post up pictures of cool shiny tools or cars or youtube videos as you find them to help add to the thread.

WXM: WELCOME and if you would maybe do the same as we all are searching to know how to do some things better that would be great.

ALL: so as a novice at this I'm going to post up a few of my favorite tools and stuff that i've seen GJ members transform from dull/rusty to shiny/like new on sometimes 100 year old things. i hope all of you do the same if you don't personally have some to post i'm sure you have favorites that you can so post them up. even if hand buffed or just shiny from good prep and sanding is ok cause most of that is needed at some point in our restorations.

DON LONG does amazing work and this GAS CART is just one example. there is a lot more going on here than a little paint and in one post i heard he uses 1600 grit sandpaper on his cars. if he has time to tell us how he shines up some of his stuff i bet he will because he is very generous with his limited time. here's a link to his garage thread in case any of you might want to see a few more pictures of this GAS CART and his other STUFF that doesn't really take a back seat to this one.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=153099&highlight=gas+cart
 

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The vise would have been wire wheeled, if it needs to be smooth sand it and before any paint always,,,, after sandblast,,,, purple scotchbrite. Most of our grinding is done hand held, simple 4 1/2 and I been at it long enough I can near sand with it, own a couple bench tools but never use them.
I spose if it was a hobby to continually restore I would look at some tailoring but I am like a fire fighter. The vise and this 4 inch air wouldn't be married for long and would smoth out any casting defects first with grinder then a shot with sander including a breeze over the flats and true the edges.
 

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With the vise it would depend, make it show or put it to work and if it was getting painted. Depends on how dirty I wanted to get but if it was paint would be taken apart and sprayed industrial purple and hot hi pressure washed off, dried and sanded.
Don can say what Don does but most painters prime and sand and paint. A purple scotchbrite is quite fine and does a good job and over sandblast does a great job, try it and feel the difference.
This is huge for longevity as well as finish, the little peaks on blast end up protruding thru primers and you can see and feel a lot of dust and grit come off, it doesn't take a lot of elbow work but a simple whiz, once you feel it up and get used to it you can tell by feel if something is going to paint up smooth.
I wash my hands doing fussy paint work and don't handle blasted parts after eating chips and cheese but smooth it off, blow it off, prime, for finer finish use sandable primer and brite it after, some high fill can sand level.
I remember starting out when I was young and seen it all, all the treatments smeared on, wiped all over and today I simply try to keep clean, scuff at the last second, blow the dust off and paint.
Since I like to paint stock colors where it applies there is nothing better than sanding old paint, for the ultimate paint it, let harden and sand the paint super smooth and come back with paint. Painting Imron over old Imron is easy etc.
 

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As I get older I get a little less fussy and that restore is what it is but I aint scared to scuff and spray can something either. Here are a couple sale pieces, they hang 10 ft over our heads and no one is running their hands over the finish. I used stock colors but 1 main thing I do on any kind of paint work no matter how lame is simple tape and mask for overspray. It makes a good job look bad and a bad job really look bad like those gypsy barn painters that overspray the foundation. Same for it on tires and any other rubber aint sposed to be red.
Takes just a whiz of tape to cover a boot on a tie rod end or a hose or a wire loom and on a fan belt on an engine job. On a tractor often simply remove pieces, paint a starter off the tractor with a bomb while rest is hardening etc.
While some spray doesnt hurt the chain it makes it look sloppy, this is a piece of rigging equipment and want it to look stock and well cared for not just like Earl whizzed over it with a spray bomb. Tape over labels and stickers, ID tags.
I did a whiz on a piece of equipment looked pretty good and no one noticed as I taped over the stickers, 5 minutes or so and even though they are not new it doesn't stick out as just being painted.
 

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I have an old Craftsman 1725 rpm buffer. I used it to polish all the stainless on my '53 Chevy, as well as other stuff--I used to make Sterling Silver jewelry as a hobby. It took a lot of trial and effort to figure out the best way to avoid black streaks on the metal. When I start to get black streaks now I change the buff to a clean one. I've got 10-12 buffs and change them out as needed. When dirty I just throw them into the washing machine after spraying them with Spray N' Wash first. There may be better ways to avoid the black streaks, if you know of one, post it--this is just what I worked out on my own.
 

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Drives: Great idea for a new thread. Here's my contribution. It's a sofa table that I made for my then soon-to-be-wife. The wood is cherry that I hand selected at the mill. I just posted this on the Woodworking 101 thread. I'm adding it here because of the hand-rubbed finish on the top.

To achieve a hand-rubbed finish all you have to do is: 1) Plane and scrape the top as flat and smooth as you can get it. DO NOT use filler. It will muddy the final effect. 2) Put on a coat of the hardest finish you can find. I used Rock Hard Table Top Varnish. When it is FULLY dry, sand lightly with 600 grit or 0000 steel wool. 3) Repeat Step Two. 4) Repeat Step Two. 5), 6), 7) Repeat Step Two. 8) Using a felt block and water rub the entire top with pumice stone thoroughly and vigorously. 9) Using a different felt block, rub the entire surface with Rotten Stone thoroughly and vigorously. 10) Repeat Steps 8 and 9 using oil instead of water. 11) Apply a coat of paste wax and buff. DONE!

It is a lengthy process and it takes a lot of effort. That's why this is the only thing on which I have done a hand-rubbed finish. It's a terrific look that cannot be duplicated by any other method that I know.

EDIT AND CORRECTION: If you use an open grained wood like oak you MUST use a filler.
 

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For bench grinder, Baldor is the best. There is a Youtube video that goes into very fine detail on how to polish different metal with different type of polish wheels, compounds, etc.
 
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ZEEK: there might end up being more metal posts that is for certain, but wood items need spiffing up and shining too. thanks for the link and if you have any other personal items to share pictures of and the process please do or if you see something like Don's gas cart that i heard you saw in person please post up some of those too. i know Don has a ton of stuff to see, but do you remember seeing it and was it as nice as it looks in the pictures? or did you have any other favorites of Don's to share?

CRS: thanks for the "HAND RUBBED" tutorial on your wood end table. WELL DONE!!

SB: you kept mentioning a vise and maybe it was early, but i didn't see a vise picture or was that just vises in general? thanks for the thoughts and for posting up projects in progress and some of the tools you use.

OLDTools: if you can post up a few links of the better buffer threads giving tutorials so we have them on the thread that would be great. thanks for the heads up.

Roberts: i bet you have made more than a few things shiny so if you have time post up some pictures of the items and the process. also what brand and type of compounds do you use with your buffer? great idea to wash the buffing wheels and i'm guessing they still work as well or does this shorten their lives?

ALL: thanks guys for all your posts so far and i'm hoping more members will share their processes to shine metal or wood or anything really tool or garage or home related. also if you know a member that does fantastic work please contact him and tell him about this thread and if he's too busy to post up some pictures maybe you can for him.
 

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I was referring to your vise. If that came my way and was going to clean it up that is the route I would head down due to ease mostly. I really use hand held tools if I can, this is generalization but I don't spend a lot buffing, just don't have that work and will make up for some of the specialized tools with a little bit of elbow for the occasion it would warrant it. . In my case its not a hobby and no one is paying me.
We moved a fridge the other day and thought we were going to have to give it a little shot, by the time I got it clean it was really nice enough and didn't add any further re finish and not investing in it unless there would be a compelling reason.
If I can do something with 1 tool I tend to if I can help it and don't do tools to do tools much. I got a neighbor does machine for a hobby so I got it for free but he builds tools so he can build more tools.
I am more selective and simple today, cant even remember last time I used a drill press and got a radial arm saw I don't need, rarely use a table saw and if I had to remodel tomorrow would buy a new slider to do what I couldn't with my battery circ and sawzall.
By trade I am a welder but I am a really good grinder and hand driller also. Have done a lot of highly inspected and highly finished work and its second nature, can remove a pop rivet with a 4 1/2.
Like a lot of tool tailoring new has come along where I use a never sharp knife in the kitchen and Stanley utility knife for the rest of it, havnt used a whet stone or sharpen a knife in 30 yrs.
I live on rural dirt so car finishes are difficult to care for but this is my number 1 refinish tool, clean, some strip scuff and shoot.
 

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I just bought 5 gallons of Industrial Purple Not for use on paint you don't want bleached off. We pressure wash at 180 to 200 degrees and can bear right down, soap and go slow very hot and make it absolutely sterile prior to sanding with anything even remotely sticky or oil left prior to sanding or even sandblast if something was greasy. Also remove as much paint as possible.
 
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I have to say the only thing I have experience with as far as finishing, buffing and polishing (or as I refer to as cuttin' and buffin') is automotive. I have a great respect for those who work in wood but I am NOT one of them and don't claim to have a clue when it comes to woodworking. Automotive is a different story though.:D

Back when I was doing more with street rods/muscle cars and drag racing it seemed like I was always doing some paint and body work on something. But that was also back when I had my old shop at my parent's farm set up as a make shift paint booth as I never really wanted to paint at my home shop in a subdivision.

Like anything it all begins with the sheetmetal and bodywork. Take a lesson from Robert over on his MP&C Shop Projects thread for inspiration. But paint and body starts at the foundation and the metal and prep work is paramount in getting a show quality job.

Let's assume the paint and clearcoat has been applied. And by applied I mean I applied it so I know how much clear is on the vehicle as this is critical because not everyone puts topcoats on the same and if you ever sand or buff through clear, your work really just began. I would consider myself a "hoser" as I apply some material.

I have also found that by over-reducing the last coat of clear by approx. 10% really helps to flatten out the clear and greatly reduces the amount of sanding to be done. Once I examine the somewhat cured clear (doesn't cure completely for about 30 days) I determine where to start. Generally between 1200 and 1500 grit for starters ending up at 2000 grit, all of this in wet/dry with a couple drops of Ivory clear in the water to assist with paper clogging. Don't focus on sanding edges as they get enough by accident also try not to cross body lines as this is an easy way to sand through the clear.

Once the clear is flat and color sanded (cut) I move on to the next step. I have a DeWalt variable speed buffer that I have used for the past 10+ years that I absolutely love. Keep in mind that when using clear coats with isocyanates you have to create some heat to kind of "flow the clear" or "move the clear" around a bit but too much and BAM, you just went through. I start out with 3M Mircofinishing Compound and a white compounding pad on the buffer. Keep the buffer moving and all you are trying to do is get rid of the sanding scratches, not necessarily making it shine, yet. Keep the pad clean of buildup by dragging a screwdriver across it occasionally.

Next up is the yellow polishing pad using 3M Finesse-It polishing compound. This will start to bring the shine and depth into focus but don't get carried away, again you are just removing the swirl marks from the previous step.

Following that is a foam pad using 3M Imperial Machine Glaze that again just removes the finest of the swirl marks from the previous step. At this point I am basically done with the machine and if all has gone well I won't have to go back and touch up any areas of finely missed sand scratches or swirl marks.

Once the vehicle has been reassembled and completed I go over it by hand with 3M Imperial Hand Glaze for that show stopping shine and depth that makes the paint still look wet.

All in all it is a LOT of work.

Mike.
 

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Drives: Great idea for a new thread. Here's my contribution. It's a sofa table that I made for my then soon-to-be-wife. The wood is cherry that I hand selected at the mill. I just posted this on the Woodworking 101 thread. I'm adding it here because of the hand-rubbed finish on the top.

To achieve a hand-rubbed finish all you have to do is: 1) Plane and scrape the top as flat and smooth as you can get it. DO NOT use filler. It will muddy the final effect. 2) Put on a coat of the hardest finish you can find. I used Rock Hard Table Top Varnish. When it is FULLY dry, sand lightly with 600 grit or 0000 steel wool. 3) Repeat Step Two. 4) Repeat Step Two. 5), 6), 7) Repeat Step Two. 8) Using a felt block and water rub the entire top with pumice stone thoroughly and vigorously. 9) Using a different felt block, rub the entire surface with Rotten Stone thoroughly and vigorously. 10) Repeat Steps 8 and 9 using oil instead of water. 11) Apply a coat of paste wax and buff. DONE!

It is a lengthy process and it takes a lot of effort. That's why this is the only thing on which I have done a hand-rubbed finish. It's a terrific look that cannot be duplicated by any other method that I know.

That is absolutely beautiful.

Mike.
 

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I'm far from an expert, but I've found that a bronze wire wheel on a bench grinder is really handy when you want to clean something without removing any metal. The other nice thing is that they don't seem to throw the wires as badly as normal steel wire wheels.

If you're fine with a nice satin brushed sort of finish, that'll be all you need. If you're careful, you can even use them on parts that have been chromed, then run the part over the buffing wheel and get a nice finish again. I'll try to take pics this weekend.
 

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zeke: I checked out your finishing link. I noticed one big difference in what they said from what I said. They recommended filling the wood and I said not to. I built that table about 25 years ago and some details have been forgotten. I used cherry which has a fairly tight grain so filler was not necessary. Oak and other open grained woods would REQUIRE a filler. Otherwise the top would always be uneven. Thanks for the link.

zmotor: Thanks for the compliment. It took a long time and a lot of work, but none of it was as exacting as what you do. I've only just recently learned how much is involved in automotive finishes. I thought the color was sprayed on and that was it. Would you care to explain how to get a "Candy Apple" finish?
 

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zmotor: Thanks for the compliment. It took a long time and a lot of work, but none of it was as exacting as what you do. I've only just recently learned how much is involved in automotive finishes. I thought the color was sprayed on and that was it. Would you care to explain how to get a "Candy Apple" finish?

A true "candy-apple" color or "candy", sometimes in the kustom industry is called a "kandy" is actually a tri-coat. It is achieved by spraying a base color down that is generally a heavy metallic flake color followed by a second coat of basically a "tinted clear", meaning the second coat is mostly clear with a tint of color. This is applied in multiple, multiple coats until the desired color is achieved. The hard part of applying a kandy coat is everywhere the gun overlaps it can create stripes if not careful and watching the spray pattern.

All of this is followed up by a clear coat resulting in the third part of the tri-coat. Kandy colors are not for the faint of heart.

Mike.
 

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I'll leave these here and post how I polished the steel at a later date.

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I have to say the only thing I have experience with as far as finishing, buffing and polishing (or as I refer to as cuttin' and buffin') is automotive. I have a great respect for those who work in wood but I am NOT one of them and don't claim to have a clue when it comes to woodworking. Automotive is a different story though.:D

Back when I was doing more with street rods/muscle cars and drag racing it seemed like I was always doing some paint and body work on something. But that was also back when I had my old shop at my parent's farm set up as a make shift paint booth as I never really wanted to paint at my home shop in a subdivision.

Like anything it all begins with the sheetmetal and bodywork. Take a lesson from Robert over on his MP&C Shop Projects thread for inspiration. But paint and body starts at the foundation and the metal and prep work is paramount in getting a show quality job.

Let's assume the paint and clearcoat has been applied. And by applied I mean I applied it so I know how much clear is on the vehicle as this is critical because not everyone puts topcoats on the same and if you ever sand or buff through clear, your work really just began. I would consider myself a "hoser" as I apply some material.

I have also found that by over-reducing the last coat of clear by approx. 10% really helps to flatten out the clear and greatly reduces the amount of sanding to be done. Once I examine the somewhat cured clear (doesn't cure completely for about 30 days) I determine where to start. Generally between 1200 and 1500 grit for starters ending up at 2000 grit, all of this in wet/dry with a couple drops of Ivory clear in the water to assist with paper clogging. Don't focus on sanding edges as they get enough by accident also try not to cross body lines as this is an easy way to sand through the clear.

Once the clear is flat and color sanded (cut) I move on to the next step. I have a DeWalt variable speed buffer that I have used for the past 10+ years that I absolutely love. Keep in mind that when using clear coats with isocyanates you have to create some heat to kind of "flow the clear" or "move the clear" around a bit but too much and BAM, you just went through. I start out with 3M Mircofinishing Compound and a white compounding pad on the buffer. Keep the buffer moving and all you are trying to do is get rid of the sanding scratches, not necessarily making it shine, yet. Keep the pad clean of buildup by dragging a screwdriver across it occasionally.

Next up is the yellow polishing pad using 3M Finesse-It polishing compound. This will start to bring the shine and depth into focus but don't get carried away, again you are just removing the swirl marks from the previous step.

Following that is a foam pad using 3M Imperial Machine Glaze that again just removes the finest of the swirl marks from the previous step. At this point I am basically done with the machine and if all has gone well I won't have to go back and touch up any areas of finely missed sand scratches or swirl marks.

Once the vehicle has been reassembled and completed I go over it by hand with 3M Imperial Hand Glaze for that show stopping shine and depth that makes the paint still look wet.

All in all it is a LOT of work.

Mike.



Have a seat and take a breather Mike!

I got winded a few times the other day in about 60 degree weather from just washing and drying my truck. I do catch a lot of the details though.



I have been eyeing that 3M glaze for sometime now. I have never really used a glaze- basically just a wash and wax sort of guy. I did use a claybar for the first time about two years ago. My vehicles usually look great, that is, until the light catches them just so and you see the micro swirls and cobweb looking marrs.

I do it all by hand, so no machine polish. Maybe I will pick this glaze up some day. What does the name Imperial mean? Is it for Japanese cars or something?:dunno:
 

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I am not a perfectionist but tape is a step I don't skip even on a simple rush deal. On real steel if its well finished to start can actually sandblast grind marks away. Most of my real paint gets epoxy primer and all that industrial isn't quite as smooth as automotive, dries slower too and is made to go over an etch.
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zmotorsports

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Have a seat and take a breather Mike!

I got winded a few times the other day in about 60 degree weather from just washing and drying my truck. I do catch a lot of the details though.



I have been eyeing that 3M glaze for sometime now. I have never really used a glaze- basically just a wash and wax sort of guy. I did use a claybar for the first time about two years ago. My vehicles usually look great, that is, until the light catches them just so and you see the micro swirls and cobweb looking marrs.

I do it all by hand, so no machine polish. Maybe I will pick this glaze up some day. What does the name Imperial mean? Is it for Japanese cars or something?:dunno:

The term "Imperial" is just part of the name that 3M assigned to that particular line of polishes. I have been using them for about 20+ years now with fantastic results. Are there other compounds/products out there that do probably just as good a job? I would say yes, but once I find something that works I tend to stick with it. I have tried a few others that people "swore" by but I still keep coming back to my good ole' standard.

I don't to paint and body work any longer but I still try to keep up on my vehicles and keep them looking their best which involves similar steps to what I posted above with the exception of just being less aggressive. Mainly because on our newer vehicles I didn't apply the clear and therefore I don't have first hand experience with the amount of clear on the paint.

Mike.
 

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That Wilton is too damned pretty to use!! I'd put it in the middle of my dining room table as a center piece.

I've polished and buffed a lot of **** over the years. My first experience was in the bodyshop polishing bondo! LOL!!

But keep in mind, polishing metal is the same technique. If the surface is rough or pitted, start with a course grit to cut the surface flat. Depending on what you are working on, you need to decide how course to start with.
Examples: My first real polishing experience was an as cast 6-71 Blower. I started with 36 grit paper folded over and sanded all the flats. Worked up to 80 grit. Once all the 36 scratches were gone, went to 120 grit. Once the 80 scratches were gone, moved up again. See how this works?

I started on that project with 36 grit because the surface was like concrete. very rough. Had to cut it down.

Another project I did was a Colt 1911 slide. It had some very minor pitting and I didn't want to do more damage by cutting too deep. I stated with 100 grit on a plate of glass and used oil as a lubricant to keep the paper clog free. I cut just enough to get out the pits and then progressed with various papers up to 1200 grit. My bluing guy said it was too shiny for the bluing to take a good bite, so he went back to 400 grit.

The trick is to keep the sand paper flat on a finish you want flat and to never dig in. If you are using power tools, you can create an irregular surface. I've seen 1911's that someone used a sanding disc on and it looked like it was ready for the dumpster.

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ALL: i can tell this thread is going to be a great resource cause there are more than a few members that really know how to make metal, cast iron, and wood shine.

that said if you all would mention the brands of the parts you use and maybe a few links or pictures of them that would be awesome. you don't have to mention specials or COUPONS cause i bet the businesses selling this quality stuff would like to make a profit and maybe eat too.

I'll try to catch the bits and pieces and machines that are mentioned more often and put them in post #2 and #3. i'll also mention the chemicals there too.

as far as posting up your favorite videos if you know they come from a reliable source and have run them on your computer first post up the links and i might transfer some of the better ones to my opening posts.

thanks again to all of you that have posted and I'm hoping you all and more members will in the future cause I (we) would all like to learn how to improve the look of our COOL STUFF.

feel free to post up pictures of your STUFF or if you see things for sale or at friends or client's places that are worthy post them up. i'm not sure how these wood tables were finished but it is an eye catcher that is for certain.

cheers
 

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Here's a wood stock I finished. The M1 Garand was a new stock with a raw finish. I did a "wet sand" with a 50/50 mix of boiled linseed oil and mineral of spirits. I started with 120 grit. But here's the trick. Don't wipe off the sanding "mud" you create. Let it slop around and build up. Set stock aside for a few days to let dry. Go back with 180 grit and do the same thing. Let the mud build up. Few days later, 220 grit. Keep doing this all the way up to 400 grit or higher depending on the finish you want. The mud you let build up gets into the pores of the wood grain and fills them creating a mirror smooth surface. You can even pile up the "mud" and use it as a wood filler in small indentations. The Carbine was an original stock reworked after I stripped it in a vat of lacquer thinner.

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Forgot to mention. A good rubdown with straight BLO when you like the stage you get to just to seal in the filler you made.
 

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For the beginners, I just want to say that the key to shinning something up is...SMOOTH ! If your project is smooth, you can achieve shine.
Many people in this great thread have talked about grit sizes and that is very important.
First, only start off with a grit that will remove the imperfections you are trying to get out... Not every polish job needs to start with 36 grit, but some should. You will waste a lot of time trying to get out deep gouges with 120 when you should have used 36 and if the damage is minor pits or scratches, starting with 36 is just going too deep and will add damage, work and time to the process.

Using tools and equipment at the right time will help. Grinders for heavy material removal and sanders for light removal then move to polishing. I use several 4 1/2 grinders with different flap disc for heavy removal and electric dual action sander for 80 to 320 grit sanding
 

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I like to do as little as possible to disturb the original surface, especially on cast parts. But sometimes things call for extreme methods.

The jaws on a couple of my Parker vises have been beat on with hammers, so my first step there is a file. Could also use a grinder.

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Mac: was it moving around the MUD while changing grits of sandpaper on those cool wood guns?

or moving clear around with a dewalt buffer on a cool car that Z will post up a few pictures of when he has time.

or putting a drop of liquid in your water to keep your 1500-2000 grit sandpaper in tact?

or do tell?

ALL: those are just a few of the things i've learned so far the past couple days. another one i saw on another thread is a member using a sharpie to put the type of compound he uses on each particular buffing wheel. he also mentioned throwing them in the washer so wondering if any others do that too?
 
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