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kentenn

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Just moved into a 1960's house that has a 2-car carport and an adjacent tiny room that is sort of a shop. My plan is to enclose the carport, making it my shop. I can knock a hole in the side of the tiny room into the carport, giving a little extra room.

Then I want to come out perpendicular to the carport with a 3 (24' x 36") or 4 (24' x 48") car garage addition. I'm looking for ways to do this as inexpensively as possible. I need to match the existing structure as well as possible so I doubt that I can use a metal building.

Any suggestions?
 
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Just moved into a 1960's house that has a 2-car carport and an adjacent tiny room that is sort of a shop. My plan is to enclose the carport, making it my shop. I can knock a hole in the side of the tiny room into the carport, giving a little extra room.

Then I want to come out perpendicular to the carport with a 3 (24' x 36") or 4 (24' x 48") car garage addition. I'm looking for ways to do this as inexpensively as possible. I need to match the existing structure as well as possible so I doubt that I can use a metal building.

Any suggestions?

pix would help get better suggestions, and I'm assuming you mean 24'x36' and 24'x48'
 

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Get a local architect who works in the specific jurisdiction you are in to draft you a set of plans. They should come back with the P.E. stamp, and all the calculations you need for the work proposed. You're going to be doing foundation work, so you probably will need soil bores to determine the density of the ground on-which you're putting it, which will tell the structural engineer how to design the footers and slab.

When you pick-out the doors and windows that you want to use, and give the manufacturer's spec sheets to the architect, he/she will incorporate them into the plans for presentation to the local building dept. Using a local design professional known to the local building dept will help you to get your plans approved quickly.

I'm assuming you want to do a frame building. Consider some sort of roof structure that will give you a second story, or usable attic space, or sufficient height with enough room to install a 2 or 4 post auto lift, if that's your intent to use the garage addition for vehicle work. Also, try to design-in some sort of an I-beam that will allow you to have a trolley lift for pulling engines, or for removing heavy loads from the back of your pickup, and allow you to drop them inside, easily.

Hardy-plank, or stucco, or vinyl should give you long service on the outside walls. Also, don't forget to insulate the walls well, to make it easier to heat, for more-comfortable use. Metal wainscotting, perhaps corrugated metal for the first 4' inside wall height , will help to prevent you caving-in the gypsum board from your inside work. If you're planning on doing welding or grinding in a specific area, constantly, you might want to run it higher there.

You can never have too-many lights, and too-many outlets. A sub-panel will probably be required, and don't forget to install both 110 and 220 conveniently, for your intended uses.
 

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Have to clear zoning restrictions (setbacks, etc) and any HOA/restrictive covenants first.

As said above, someone (could be you) has to draw a set of plans to be the standard for what is going to be built.

I can't recall if termites play a significant part in your area but its something worth prepping for if you have an annual termite bond inspection.

Pics of what you have would be helpful.
 
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Yes, feet, not inches...

I am trying to match existing structure's 10 ft walls, so that will help a little in the garage. Yes, I would like a lift someday and an overhead beam. I'm trying to minimize costs right now, and truthfully I question how much sense it makes for a 60 year old guy to go all out... I'm already feeling the effects of aging so using all this stuff may be a challenge...but I'm hoping I can get it organized so I can use it. I like the idea of using an architect but hate spending the extra money on a "basic" no frills building.

Yes, termites are a problem in this area.

Here is the layout...
 

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Your drawing certainly looks feasible. I would be inclined to match the roof pitch with the existing house with the peak running perpendicular to the existing house. There should be substantial structure already in place supporting the open end of the carport.

BTW, it looks like you have a nice place there.
 
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That was my thinking too concerning the roof. I'm trying to figure out if there are any things I can do to reduce cost without substantially altering the design. I have to enclose the carport to create a shop and then add the garage structure. The prices I have gotten are higher than I want to spend (by about $10k).
 
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How much higher are the bids? I'm betting by at least a multiplier of 2.5......

Actually not that bad...I targeted about $25k for the garage and it came in about $36k, including concrete work. I have since gone out and found another guy to do the concrete for $4500 instead of $8700 so that will bring it down a little.
 
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Progress...carport is enclosed, insulated and I'm starting to hang drywall. Concrete guy is demoing the driveway to form the slab for garage.
 

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Update: Garage is up. Roof on , siding painted. Ordering doors tomorrow. Ended up with 3 bay + carport on end.
 

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Wow, you aren't kidding around. In the span of 3 months you went from conceptual design to enclosed structure. I am impressed.

As an aside, why not enclose all four bays?
 
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Wow, you aren't kidding around. In the span of 3 months you went from conceptual design to enclosed structure. I am impressed.

As an aside, why not enclose all four bays?

My Mom is living with us until I finish renovating MIL apt. Can't move her until we can have 28 ft semi trailer unload and her apt is only a fraction of the size required for that much ****. So time is of the essence.

The fourth bay isn't on the slab - just existing asphalt. Initially planned a lean to but then put up walls. I'll use for a car for a while. Ultimately planning on barn doors for it and will use for tractor. Doors for the other three should be here next week...
 
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Doors came yesterday. Decided to look at real brick to see if it would be less than artificial brick. Need to do something with carport bay to improve the look...

Also been working on shop...hung clamps and emptied a bunch of boxes.....
 

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Finally got brick laid.... still need to make doors for last bay...
 

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KT: sweet upgrade. sorry i didn't see you before you started, but looks like you are going full speed ahead.

any questions or are you just waiting on barn doors and a few things to get done?

great space and congrats on the new home.
 
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My Dad had a friend who had some barn doors he wasn't using. Drove to KY and picked them up. Had to modify. Changed width and height, replaced old boards, sealed and hung. Doors weigh about 150 lbs each so that was no easy task...

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No immediate questions. I will have some as I wire and drywall it.
 

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