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poppinjohnnies · Jan 17, 2017

I just pulled the trigger on my shop today and I'm pretty stoked, but a bit overwhelmed at the same time. I had an insulated 5" slab / footing poured over a year ago in anticipation of building a stick build shop. Since then, I decided to opt for a steel framed 32 x 40 x 14. It will also have a 15' x 40' porch on the back.
I just posted on the lighting sticky thread because I am unsure of the best layout for lighting. Same goes for the electrical.
I'd like to have a 10' wide loft that runs the length of the end wall that will double as a ceiling for the bathroom.

I'll post pics as this project moves along. Any advice / suggestions are appreciated!

poppinjohnnies · Jan 20, 2017

Today they bored the pier holes for the 15' lean-to that will run the 40' distance on the back wall of the building. They also installed the anchor bolts in the slab with epoxy. The steel should arrive soon.

Purist · Jan 20, 2017

Can't wait to see where this goes. In for updates!

sublime68charger · Jan 20, 2017

good luck will be following along on how this goes for you!

poppinjohnnies · Jan 21, 2017

Progress update: The piers / bases for the porch are poured. Steel should arrive in a couple of weeks, then we'll see some real progress.

poppinjohnnies · Jan 28, 2017

The crew arrived yesterday and started slingin' iron!

poppinjohnnies · Jan 31, 2017

My contractor called yesterday and informed me that the metal supplier sent him white siding instead of the grey that I ordered. I replied with, "So it sounds like I'll be able to get those white interior liner panels at 1/2 price, huh?". He told me that he thought he could make that happen. I haven't received word back from him yet though.
Hey, you gotta turn lemons into lemonade!

poppinjohnnies · Feb 1, 2017

Today's update: Windows & door frames installed!

poppinjohnnies · Feb 1, 2017

The loft is installed today. I'm pretty stoked about this addition, but I have no idea how I'm going to arrange a set of stairs for it. I want to use the minimum amount of floor space as possible. Any good ideas?

AirJunky · Feb 1, 2017

Stairs on the outside of the building?

rburke65 · Feb 1, 2017

Trying not to give up a stairway foot print on the inside, I'd vote for the outside stairway with maybe a large 'landing' and a double door.

larry_g · Feb 1, 2017

poppinjohnnies said:
The loft is installed today. I'm pretty stoked about this addition, but I have no idea how I'm going to arrange a set of stairs for it. I want to use the minimum amount of floor space as possible. Any good ideas?

Why the loft? Party room or heavy storage? Do you expect to carry everything up the stairs that goes up there? Will there be a wall separating the space upper and/or lower? Use and function have a bearing on how the stairs should be laid out. Might be a ladder is a good option.

My first shop I had a stair in the back corner under the mez that went up 4' along the sidewall to a platform and turned right to the stair along the back wall that went to the mez. A lot of storage under those stairs. In that shop the mez had a wall making it separate from the shop below but it had a 4' wide door that opened allowing stuff to be lifted with the tractor bucket.

My current shop has them in the middle of the building as you can see below. It works for me. See build below.

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poppinjohnnies · Feb 1, 2017

Larry, I plan to leave the loft open to the bottom, but it is similar to your layout. I like the way you built your stairs. I'll take a few more measurements tomorrow morning and see if your setup will work ok in my building. My big concern is that it may hang out too far into the garage stall. Guess I should've made this thing a little bigger.

MacTexas · Feb 2, 2017

I don't think there is a single person on GJ that didn't wish they had built it bigger.

sublime68charger · Feb 2, 2017

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28505&highlight=Serno

For loft stairs go threw Serno thread he has a solution

There a teaser pic on first page,

I have no idea where the stair build is but pretty sure it's in this thread of his!

Good luck nice progress so far!

poppinjohnnies · Feb 3, 2017

Thank you sublime. I Dig the charger! We're Mopar folks too, but I mainly mess w/ the 70's pickups ( fun, and a whole lot cheaper than the cars). Dad has a pair of Roadrunners, a '69 ex race car that's soon to be a restored stocker & a recently restored hemi orange '70. My oldest son is on the tail end of a '76 Dodge D-100 Adventurer SE short bed (factory 440 / Auto / A/C / cruise). I have a POS '79 Power Wagon fun truck and a '77 D-250 Adventurer Camper Special. Both 3/4 ton trucks.

poppinjohnnies · Feb 3, 2017

I had a minor setback. MY wife got home and called me at the office to inform me that the contractors installed the metal on one wall, but it was white instead of lt grey. :sad:

I spoke to the co. owner and he apologized for the order mistake and said he would take care of it. Heck, we're all human, so I'm not going to stew about it. This has been a 4 year project since the initial dozer work was done, so it's not like I'm on a hard deadline.
It'll take a little while to get the correct metal delivered, so I'll do some dirt / rock work this weekend and possibly work on the loft stairs.

poppinjohnnies · Feb 3, 2017

Here's more pics of the loft area.

cros13 · Feb 3, 2017

lookin good so far mate! hopefully i can fit some sort of a loft in my shed too.

subscribed!

Rudi.

poppinjohnnies · Feb 17, 2017

Update: The new metal came in and the thing is getting closer to completion! Here are some update pictures.

jclem40c · Feb 17, 2017

many pictures of the garage but none of the poppinjohnnie. How come?

poppinjohnnies · Feb 17, 2017

Can do! What model do you prefer?

sublime68charger · Feb 17, 2017

which model's due you have to choose from?

I have a Uncle with a 730, 720 and A unstyled and G styled
420 crawler that was burned in a barn fire currently undergoing a restore to usable condition.

poppinjohnnies · Feb 17, 2017

Between Dad and I, there are several. Here's a picture of Dad's "Double A".

poppinjohnnies · Feb 17, 2017

Here's a few more old tractor pictures.

sublime68charger · Feb 17, 2017

Can you give the specs and back ground on the double A

Is it functional or just for show?

Pretty neat looking!

poppinjohnnies · Feb 17, 2017

Dad and I were at a large antique tractor auction about 16 yrs ago and we came home with this and a "Double B" (2 B JDs connected side by side. Power connected through the ptos via chain drive). The same guy built both of them. He built the double A because a friend of his bet him that he couldn't make it work. Well, he did. He cut off the front end of an A behind the crankcase bulkhead and made a steel frame web to connect it to another A with the front end removed. The result is a stretched twin engine tractor with the engines linked via a flat belt on both belt pulleys. It will run on either engine or both at the same time. Same with the double B. After it runs on both engines for a few minutes, the two seem to synch up and it sounds really cool. I'll have to fire it up this spring and post a video.

poppinjohnnies · Feb 17, 2017

Here's my '51 JD R diesel at a tractor pull a few years ago.

drivesitfar · Feb 18, 2017

PJ: did you mention the company you bought the steel from? looks like a great project and i love steel framed with wood framing!!

what are you going to put up on or in your loft? one option might be a WAREHOUSE LADDER that is on wheels so you can move it out of the way or to a different spot if you need to. also if you are going to put some heavy items up there do you have a gantry or maybe a bridge crane set up so you can get things up there and maybe moved to the back or sides without as much effort.

is the white metal that mistakenly went up the stuff that was delivered that you maybe got to keep for 1/2 price cause you never said if you got that deal?

keep posting up pictures and good attitude from what i've seen so far.

good luck

poppinjohnnies · Feb 19, 2017

My builder and I had a major miscommunication, so the 1/2 price deal on the liner panels is a no go. There's a place here that is selling used MDF mezzanine floor panels for $5 / sheet, and I've considered using those for liner panels. They have 3/4" and 1 1/8" panels available. I thought the thick ones might be good for the loft floor...
As far as loft usage - I plan to use it for some parts storage and a home for the furnace.
A warehouse ladder is a consideration. I'd love to find a used one because new ones are quite expensive.
The bridge crane is a good idea, but I have a small forklift that should be able to handle any lifting that may be required in there.
Garage doors should be installed today! Then on to electrical and plumbing. I ordered the lift this week, (Bendpak XPR-10AS) so it is finally coming together.

poppinjohnnies · Feb 20, 2017

Doors, trim and soffit are done! The gutter man should be here this week. Now, do I order 8'metal for the liner panels or do I use OSB? I need to make a decision ASAP, because the wiring is next. I plan to use MC for all of the wiring. I can't seem to make up my mind on these panels...

sublime68charger · Feb 20, 2017

I vote metal!

But tomorrow I could vote Osb!

Due a pro con list for each and post up what you think!

poppinjohnnies · Mar 13, 2017

Update: The water and electric feed are installed, as well as the liner panels. Wiring to begin soon!

sean Buick 76 · Mar 14, 2017

Awesome project and I like those Mopar trucks they are cool... I have always wanted a Lil Red Expess! The 15x40 lean to sounds great!

drivesitfar · Mar 14, 2017

PJ: since you already have those nice metal walls up are you planning on putting all your electrical in conduit and metal or plastic and attaching it to the walls? it looks like you have insulation already installed or is that just a vapor barrier?

good for you for owning a FORK LIFT. i'm not sure we'll ever move, but if i had a big shop of my own that would be very handy for me and a back saver cause I seem to buy some pretty heavy stuff. i was thinking you might have a bridge crane inside your new shop since you have those heavy metal beams as supports.

best of luck with the wiring and plumbing.

poppinjohnnies · Mar 14, 2017

That's 3" insulation and yes, we're running all the wire in metal conduit. Plumbing will be one of the last (and least important) items on the punch list.
I have a little Whiteman Power Buggy forklift (search that on youtube and you'll see my kid operating it). The max capacity on that lift is a small block chevy engine, so it is very limited, but very handy nevertheless. I started resurrecting an old early '50s Clark Y20 yardlift about a month ago. The hulk has been sitting behind my shop for about 4 years, and before that it was sitting behind someone else's shop for 20. It's rated at 2000 lbs, so it should make an ideal multi use machine around my place. If it doesn't, I'll sell it. It is now running with new rear tires installed. I bought new front tires and I'm in the middle of rebuilding the brakes now.

poppinjohnnies · Jul 14, 2017

It's been a while since I posted any updates on the shop build. The electrical is 95% finished, the lift is installed, and I'm getting ready to install the air lines.

poppinjohnnies · Jul 21, 2017

I finished sealing the floor, so now I can start running air lines, outfitting and organizing. The latter is my weakness, so tips are greatly appreciated.

poppinjohnnies · Jul 28, 2017

I spent hours trying to figure out the best way to organize a storage / workbench solution using my miscellaneous array of cabinets that I've collected in anticipation of this shop build. Little did I know, all I needed to do was have the wife help me out for about an hour and my problem would be solved. Here's what we came up with. The little dark grey cabinet will have a base that will even it up with the others. I have an old dresser top that fit perfectly to make a counter top, so I'll have a friend bend some sheet metal on his brake to tidy it up. I plan to paint all of these a charcoal grey color to match my new bendpak lift.

poppinjohnnies · Aug 8, 2017

Got a little more cabinet painting finished. The old rolling card file cabinet is finished, along with half of the painting on the others. I'm hoping to be finished tomorrow night.

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