If you buy from harbor freight tools and have your receipts....

bimmerZ5 · Mar 16, 2017

just saw this:

https://slickdeals.net/f/9874912-ha...utm_campaign=tu-9999&src=da_si_v2_ni_10080192

Or, the original link:

http://www.nationalsalepricesettlement.com/

vettex2 · Mar 16, 2017

I can only do option B

dirt_dobber · Mar 16, 2017

most all of my purchases there are small under $10 items. But those that spent big may get some good coin.

Speedbird · Mar 16, 2017

I just checked my receipt from a 44 in. toolbox I bought last August but it doesn't have the "you saved" line on it. I remember when the receipts did have it on there though.

roketa36 · Mar 16, 2017

Why even bother they offer decent prices compared to other places. It's deal like this that drives the prices up.

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superskaterxes · Mar 16, 2017

So i just received this email yesterday and i printed off all of my CC statements since 2011 (i literally charge everything in my life so i can keep track of spending even down to a 0.25 cent piece of gum lol). I shop at HF ALOT so i knew this would be a good deal for me.

I went through every transaction and created a spreadsheet with the transaction date, amount, and then made a column to calculate the % i would receive back. I choose the 12% back by gift card (Option B) which was a no brainer since i know i will use it. Here are some stats that i came up with

Between 4/8/2011 and 12/31/16:
Total number of transactions: 78
Total spent between those dates: $4,651.08
Average transaction amount: $59.82
Total ill get back if i choose 10% cash: $465
Total ill get back if i chose 12% GC: $558

i started getting the emailed receipts in 2016 but most of my savings x 30% (option A) was not more than 12% of the total transaction (option B).

vavet · Mar 16, 2017

Wow! This is huge.

LB-1911 · Mar 16, 2017

Previous thread over in General Tool Discussion

Harbor Freight Tool Class Action
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330932&page=6

GMCGarage · Mar 16, 2017

Me thinks some lawyers got rich!

DanielSimpsonDay · Mar 16, 2017

roketa36 said:
Why even bother they offer decent prices compared to other places. It's deal like this that drives the prices up.

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Agreed.

Anyone who has been to HF more than 2 or 3 times knows that their regular price on items was BS. I looked at their aluminum cargo carrier, regular price "199 or something". I never saw it more than $99 I believe and it would get as low as $74 or so.

This is a situation where there was no harm, people paid what they wanted to pay for an item, if it was still more than they wanted to pay, then don't buy it. No one had a gun to their heads telling them it's **% of "regular price" so buy it.

This is why lawyers ****.

Fixed · Mar 16, 2017

I don't see how HF doing this is really any different than how amazon advertises how much of a deal you're getting, but then again I'm no lawyer

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roketa36 · Mar 16, 2017

DanielSimpsonDay said:
Agreed.

Anyone who has been to HF more than 2 or 3 times knows that their regular price on items was BS. I looked at their aluminum cargo carrier, regular price "199 or something". I never saw it more than $99 I believe and it would get as low as $74 or so.

This is a situation where there was no harm, people paid what they wanted to pay for an item, if it was still more than they wanted to pay, then don't buy it. No one had a gun to their heads telling them it's **% of "regular price" so buy it.

This is why lawyers ****.

Lol not only do they pull that gimmick but everyone who pays a lick of attention will know when they are at their lowest price.

Btw not only am I against this lawsuit but I'm also married toba lawyer that shops the deals there with me and would be against it as well

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2manytools · Mar 16, 2017

It has to do with deceiving the customer. Yes, WE all know what the regular price should be, but when a company falsely states regularly prices (or never sells them at that) it CAN confuse some people, or influence someone to purchase something because they THINK it is on sale.

This is why the My Pillow company got knocked down on the BBB rating system. They had an offer of B1G1 pillow for free, just about all year, which got them in trouble. How can you offer something half off, but never sell it at regular price.

I'm not saying I agree with these kinds of lawsuits, though I don't necessarily agree with some of the business tactics either, but that is the thought process.

thickhead · Mar 16, 2017

I'm all for less ******** in advertising, but the little I think I know about these class action suits gets me all wound up and pissed off.

Git · Mar 16, 2017

I don't mean to get off the subject, but this is a great app for your smartphone to keep track of receipts

Just take a picture of your receipt, it crops and converts it to a pdf file

CamScanner
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.intsig.camscanner&hl=en

DanielSimpsonDay · Mar 16, 2017

2manytools said:
It has to do with deceiving the customer. Yes, WE all know what the regular price should be, but when a company falsely states regularly prices (or never sells them at that) it CAN confuse some people, or influence someone to purchase something because they THINK it is on sale.

This is why the My Pillow company got knocked down on the BBB rating system. They had an offer of B1G1 pillow for free, just about all year, which got them in trouble. How can you offer something half off, but never sell it at regular price.

I'm not saying I agree with these kinds of lawsuits, though I don't necessarily agree with some of the business tactics either, but that is the thought process.

Let the regulators slap them down, I'm fine with that. But I'm not ok with some ambulance chasing lawyer running around looking for things like this to files a class action on. There are about 4 or 5 law firms who are responsible for a huge number of the class action lawsuits nationally. They are what give lawyers a bad name.

LoveOldIron · Mar 16, 2017

2manytools said:
It has to do with deceiving the customer. Yes, WE all know what the regular price should be, but when a company falsely states regularly prices (or never sells them at that) it CAN confuse some people, or influence someone to purchase something because they THINK it is on sale.

This is why the My Pillow company got knocked down on the BBB rating system. They had an offer of B1G1 pillow for free, just about all year, which got them in trouble. How can you offer something half off, but never sell it at regular price.

I'm not saying I agree with these kinds of lawsuits, though I don't necessarily agree with some of the business tactics either, but that is the thought process.

Yup. No sympathy for HF. They tried to be slick, and they got caught. Now they'll have to take a hit to the wallet. While lawyers and class actions do generally ****, HF owns the blame here.

gamp945 · Mar 16, 2017

Yeah, I won't be participating in this lawsuit. I was fine with the price that I paid at the time and ignored any fake "save 99%" signage. You honestly would have to be retarded to look at the signage in any store and make your purchasing decision based on how much you think you are saving off of "full price." That kind of marketing does piss me off, but it doesn't mislead me.

Dud · Mar 16, 2017

Most who decide to participate in this CAL will get a $10 gift card (unless you are meticulous about keeping your receipts). The only winner here are the lawyers ...

schmitty8225 · Mar 16, 2017

If companies didn't try to screw consumers these lawyers wouldn't have a job. If I did my math correctly, I should get around $150 back.

Loscaldazar · Mar 16, 2017

I have my receipts and would qualify for the 30% back (which would be about $250, mostly from my toolbox purchase). I'm going to pass because I generally hate class action lawsuits, especially for things that don't seem too harmful like this.

The lawyers are usually the only ones who win from class action law suits.... $10 million for them, $10 for most people with a few who will get a few hundred.

jd_1138 · Mar 16, 2017

I'd only get like $5 back if I kept receipts. Ha.

Chuckster in NJ · Mar 16, 2017

I won't participate in this CALS because it only supports the "blood sucking lawyers"...... Anyone who goes to HF knows the advertising is BS and the bottom line price is "fair" for what you are buying and even better with the 20% off coupon on one (no name) item.
HF wants to "rope you into the store" with some wacky advertised prices and when you get in you always will spend $75 or more on **** you don't really need but had to buy because the price was "too good" to refuse. :lol_hitti

"IF" you really think you are getting "something for free" at HF please PM me because I have some "ready to build on" NJ swamp land for sale....... At a great price. :eyecrazy:

jarhead · Mar 16, 2017

This is going to cost all of us in a big way.
I usually don't by the **** there. I have bought Two 44" tool chest, a large brake, a set of shrinker stretchers, heavy jack stands, ALLOT of gloves, several spot weld cutters.
OH and a bead roller that's now in the trash, lol.

I am going to pass, I think I've saved enough......OH except on that damn bead roller, lol. I have a Mittler now Cha-Ching

z2w · Mar 16, 2017

jarhead said:
...I have bought Two 44" tool chest, a large brake, a set of shrinker stretchers, heavy jack stands, ALLOT of gloves, several spot weld cutters.
OH and a bead roller that's now in the trash, lol.

It looks like they no longer sell this.

How do you like the brake and shrinker/stretcher?

thehighwayman · Mar 16, 2017

Is this real life?
I'm aboard the "who cares, you paid what you thought was fair for something" bandwagon.
Every company "puts things on sale" to get you in the door.

Stop being so soft, and quit looking for free money.

jarhead · Mar 16, 2017

z2w said:
It looks like they no longer sell this.

How do you like the brake and shrinker/stretcher?

http://www.harborfreight.com/36-in-metal-brake-with-stand-62335.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/metal-shrinkerstretcher-set-68897.html

Actually they are adequate for my needs. I am resto-modding a 68 Ford Torino.

I am making some of the stuff I can't buy. The brake needs a little fine tuning to get it to work correctly. It will do 18 gauge fine, 16 gauge not so much. The shrinker stretcher is pretty cool, and works good if you keep it clean and oiled.

I gave up on the bead roller and all the MODs I found on here and spent $2500 on a Mittler. I have a shitload of beads to roll, and when I retire in a year I plan to make some $$$ rolling some for others.

A shameless plug to my adventure...
http://www.torinocobra.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=23771

braidmeister · Mar 16, 2017

I could probably get some decent coin back, but why? Just to be a *****?

There's no free lunch...this is why prices go up...theft, scammers and other free-loading BS for those that think the world owes them something. Just leave it. The whole case was without merit.

The circus-like sensationalism in HF ads is part of the whole allure...we all know it's 'horrible freight' so we don't take it too seriously. It's what makes HF, HF.

dacan23 · Mar 16, 2017

I believe in most CAL there is a set amount, say $10M, if there are only $8M in claims, the lawyers keep the rest. So if you dont participate it actually gives the lawyers more money.

Richard Cranium · Mar 16, 2017

Not going to play this game. I got what I paid for, for a price that I agreed to pay. Have no problems with what i got.

roketa36 · Mar 16, 2017

To be honest I find the ads fun to look through to see what the prices of stuff are that month. Most of the stuff i get there I can wait till the cheap cheap prices are advertised so it's like a treasure hunt each month for what new toy I'm going to play with

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JonnyC · Mar 16, 2017

Richard Cranium said:
Not going to play this game. I got what I paid for, for a price that I agreed to pay. Have no problems with what i got.

Same here.

tymbo · Mar 17, 2017

I'll play! $94 coming my way. Claim submitted.

EdJack · Mar 17, 2017

I'll play for Option C. The $10 gift card.

That will partially cover my costs of all the cheap sub-ten-dollar items that broke the first use, that I tossed in the garbage rather than returning.

getbent4x4 · Mar 17, 2017

I have most of my receipts. Now if I can actually see the print on them is a different story.

sns1938 · Mar 17, 2017

I had kept pretty much all receipts up until about Feb 17, at which point I chucked them out. I managed to find four ''you saved'' receipts and some credit card statements, but just the past year or two. My calculations put me at about $100 back in gift cards. I would imagine it'd have been three times as much if I'd had all my receipts back to about 2012 when I first went there.

z2w · Mar 17, 2017

braidmeister said:
I could probably get some decent coin back, but why? Just to be a *****?

There's no free lunch...this is why prices go up...theft, scammers and other free-loading BS for those that think the world owes them something. Just leave it. The whole case was without merit.

The circus-like sensationalism in HF ads is part of the whole allure...we all know it's 'horrible freight' so we don't take it too seriously. It's what makes HF, HF.

The scammers here are HF. These laws exist so that people can have an expectation that an advertised "sale" is actually a sale. The case is absolutely not without merit. Harbor Freight broke the law whether they meant to or not. Playing fast and loose with regulations saved them money on legal counsel in the short term, but their practices were illegal and dishonest and now they're paying the price.

I personally would love to see price advertising in general get cleaned up. When Amazon tells me a price for a new item is $55 marked down from $75, who is paying the $75? Isn't the price really $55? I think they get around it by claiming that the $75 is an MSRP, not a sale price relative to the usual Amazon price.

Buckgnarly · Mar 17, 2017

What's worse, the people dumb enough to fall for pricing schemes or the greed of people trying to get something for nothing and supporting CAL like this?
I would also wager the majority of people supporting and cashing in on this are the same that frequent slick deals and only have posts in the Hot Deals section on here.... :dunno:

nmantas · Mar 17, 2017

Its funny that they can still advertise with the mythical prices....just not put it on the receipts as a 'you saved' amount. I bet the furniture industry is giving a sigh of relief since every piece of furniture since premade furniture has been made has been always displayed as 'on sale'.

Git · Mar 17, 2017

This is about as stupid as the Lowes 2 x 4 lawsuit.

You bought something at Harbor Freight - you knew what the price was. How many times have you seen something 'on sale' and then you did a quick google search and found out that there 'sale price' is the same as what other retailers were selling it for. As others mentioned - Amazon always displays some ridiculously high msrp price and then shows how much you are saving...

I don't usually shop at Harbor Freight - but from those of you that do, I would expect a see a 'rant' thread about a year from now about Harbor Freight raising their prices (someone has to pay for this and it is not going to be them)

Getting back to the Lowes '2 x 4' lawsuit - most people know that a 2 x 4 is actually 1 1/2" by 3 1/2" but someone decided to sue because the description (2 x 4) wasn't accurate enough for them. Geez do you think it was someone who actually used 2 x 4's or perhaps a lawyer?

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