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Removing Weld Seam From Tubing

2oolhound

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I finally got around to making a steel bench top for my 2 roller cabinets. It's 2' x 7' with 2" ID tubing on 12" centres. I have the bayonet hitch style receivers throughout the shop and wanted to be able to use 2 receivers for bigger tool mounting so opted for 12" centres.

Since I have no budget this was all salvaged material and there was no going out and buying seamless tubing. I had a nice 50" piece of 2" square solid bar stock sitting around so I decided to try and force a piece of it through the 24" sections of tubing using my 20 T press.

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It almost worked and did work after the 2nd pass but the weld seam was gouging my 6" block as badly as I was removing the weld seam and I could see this wasn't going to do the other 7 sections. I cut a 1/2" x 1" section off one end of my slug and threaded a small section of it back on to act as a keeper for a piece of HSS tooling I'd ground to size creating a broach.

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The 1st one was still a little grabby so I put a .005 shim under the tool bit and it all worked like a hot dam after that.

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The gouges you see on the body of the slug were from before I added the HSS bit.


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I plan to buy an air/hydraulic ram for my cherry picker in the future and I'll fab some mounts for that on my 20 T press so I can force this broach through in one swoop next time I need to do this.
 

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Good job. That's pretty similar to how some barrel rifling is done. I wouldn't have thought to to that. I ended up notching the OD to allow for the seam of some square tube last year to make a general purpose telescoping pedestal with 1.75 and 2" tubing. I plan to keep running with square tube since I've worked a fair amount of it. Now I have another way to think about things that someone has proven. Again, good job.
 
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Thanks guys! I've grooved out for seam clearance when I made my telescoping articulating arm for my mig but the receiver hitch system started when someone gave me about 50' of seamless unistrut in both sizes. I used it everywhere till I ran out. When I realized I was going to have to go back and grind grooves in all my tools so they would fit in my new bench I came up with this concept. You got that right ddawg, Necessity is the mother of invention all right!

It should work fine by stacking flat bar to the size you need. If I need to do bigger tubing I'll try adding strips of flat bar to make up the right size.
 
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I did a similar project but I didn't have a hyd. press. I used a 'PONY' pipe clamp and pushed/pulled my broach thru the tube..... My cutter was a small piece of planer blade.... worked very well....

Lynn W
 
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Lynn W - Sounds good but I bet that was a workout for the wrists.

3l33ter - I thought of canting the bit on a slight angle but wasn't sure if directing the chip to the side was a good idea ( and I would have had to stop and set my band saw on an angle :). I was just doing down and dirty to get the job done quickly and stopped as soon as I got results. I thought of sharpening a slight angle on the leading edge and that may have been my next move but didn't need to. Looking at the build up it would work better by angling the bit and cutting a slight under cut into the bit and the debris wouldn't pile up like that. I only had to go 24" but for longer sections that would be the ticket.

homebuilt burner - On the press the chips fall to the bottom so they clear themselves as soon as they break off. I originally thought I might have to make a slot for a second bit further back like a real broach but it wasn't necessary as the weld seam is just a thin ridge. Starting the plug straight was the biggest hassle. I filed the seam 1" in and took the bur off the opening but the plug wanted to dig in and kind of chattered along cutting some gouges inside the tube until it got deep enough to straighten out. After the 1st couple I tapped it in an inch or so with a hammer then placed the ram of the press right over the bit side of the plug and it went straighter in nicely.
 

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Lynn W - Sounds good but I bet that was a workout for the wrists.

I have a pony clamp that the handle got broken off, I welded a nut on to replace the handle which allowed me to use a ratchet..... :thumbup: Much easier than the normal handle.... :D

Lynn W
 

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That's a cool idea. I would have spent hours with my 1/2" belt sander grinding that ridge out. That idea is going in the memory bank for sure.
 

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Extremely elegant way of problem solving. I want to build a new bench and when i checked the prices on receiver tubing at the steel yard, i nearly choked. and all the time using a dynabride didn't look appealing either. my 20T is some of the best $80 i've spent.
 

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I finally got around to making a steel bench top for my 2 roller cabinets. It's 2' x 7' with 2" ID tubing on 12" centres. I have the bayonet hitch style receivers throughout the shop and wanted to be able to use 2 receivers for bigger tool mounting so opted for 12" centres.

Since I have no budget this was all salvaged material and there was no going out and buying seamless tubing. I had a nice 50" piece of 2" square solid bar stock sitting around so I decided to try and force a piece of it through the 24" sections of tubing using my 20 T press.

attachment.php



It almost worked and did work after the 2nd pass but the weld seam was gouging my 6" block as badly as I was removing the weld seam and I could see this wasn't going to do the other 7 sections. I cut a 1/2" x 1" section off one end of my slug and threaded a small section of it back on to act as a keeper for a piece of HSS tooling I'd ground to size creating a broach.

attachment.php



The 1st one was still a little grabby so I put a .005 shim under the tool bit and it all worked like a hot dam after that.

attachment.php


The gouges you see on the body of the slug were from before I added the HSS bit.


attachment.php



I plan to buy an air/hydraulic ram for my cherry picker in the future and I'll fab some mounts for that on my 20 T press so I can force this broach through in one swoop next time I need to do this.

That is just a great idea! Excellent example of thinking outside the box.:thumbup:
 
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