Mitre saw input

ive · Jul 17, 2017

Looking to do a lot of shelving in the garage and planning on a mitre saw. I was looking at a 10" but now I think that I should just get a 12" if I'm gonna get one.

Anyone have any experience with any models they would recommend?

Thanks!

SilverBulletZ06 · Jul 17, 2017

I have a 12" DeWalt and it cuts most things like butter. I do a lot of trim so it really makes life easy.

txvwnut · Jul 17, 2017

I've had a 10" and now have a 12" Dewalt. Both were compound slide models and that's what I would go with if you get one. A 12" offers more cut capacity than a 10" and a 12" slider offers more than a non-sliding miter saw.

rrich1 · Jul 17, 2017

I have the bosch axle glide and like it a lot. Takes up less space than a normal slider. A cheaper option would be the Hitachi 12". Has a compact slide rail system and is fantastic saw. I had one before the bosch. Honestly I don't feel I upgraded any but moved sideways. I'm a semi bosch fanboy so I really wanted the axel glide.

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trekgod3 · Jul 17, 2017

I also have a 12" Dewalt double bevel slider. It's an older model dw708 I got on ebay. I'm using a 60t fine finish Admiral blade from Harbor freight on it. It's a monster compared to my old Harbor freight 10" slider. I've got it mounted on a Ridgid msuv. Nice setup.

Wamsutta · Jul 17, 2017

The first thing I look for when shopping for a miter saw is whether it has a horizontal handle or a vertical handle, and how much of a PITA it is to use the trigger lock-out switch.

Stuey · Jul 17, 2017

How deep is the shelving?

I tend to like Dewalt's saws. 10" vs 12" is tough, but if you're looking at very wide shelves, 12".

Trock03 · Jul 17, 2017

I received a Dewalt 10" single bevel saw as a gift several years ago and it's been great but when I get ready to upgrade I'll definitely buy a slider. That extra capacity would be really nice.

FYI I'm just a DIY homeowner and I've put up a lot of T&G and moulding. You can get it done with a single bevel saw but if you buy a double plus slider you won't have any regrets.

TC

cheechi · Jul 17, 2017

The Bosch glide or the Hitachi C12RSH both are more compact than the typical slide setup. I only look at 12" dual bevel sliders, if you have the room get one. The only reason to get a smaller saw is if you have to compromise due to size.

Are you looking for something used or new? The Dewalt 708 is a good saw you can probably find used pretty easy.

A lot of times you will see Lowes & HD selling saws with a free stand or cart or blades or whatever the deal this month is. The DW780, Hitachi, or the Ridgid are nice. Out of whats available at my Lowes & HD, I would pass on any but these.

Personally I have the Hitachi on the Ridgid stand.

tarbellb · Jul 17, 2017

10" slider will cut 90% of what a average DIY user needs.

Careful with your standard slider setup as they tend to take up a
huge foot print (front to back). IIRC my sliding 10" Ridgid is 39" from front to back!

My sliding 10" Makita with stacked sliders is much less, same with the Hitachi which is basically a Radial Arm Saw, and the Bosch Axial, and Festool Kapex.

deberly12 · Jul 17, 2017

Poo poo it if you want but honestly the harbor freight 12 in dual bevel sliding is an awesome saw. It is usually around $125. I had a fine finish Diablo blade on it. I'm sure it wouldn't hold up to years of being used 8 hours a day but I made several hundred cuts with mine. It will cut pressure treated pine as fast as I can push it down. And hardwood just about as fast. It will cut a 2x12 in one pass. My old 10 non sliding wouldn't even do a 2x6 cleanly. At under $175 with a really good blade it is about a third the price of a DeWalt. It also has a Lazer that is great.

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Finky198 · Jul 17, 2017

I have the DWS780 (12" dbv slider) from lowes with the heavy duty stand. It's one of the best purchases I've ever made (5+ years ago). My partner and I built our new shop addition 25'x30' in a weekend with it and my worm drive. With a few good blades the DWS780 will do just about everything... From framing to trim work.

I have the light on the saw which makes a shadow on the board a great feature in my op, especially for framing I hook the board with my tape while on the stand a number is called out I can drop the head of the saw line up exactly on the tape move my tape and make the cut. No square no pencil no marks needed although I can use them and/or the light if I'm making percise or multiple cuts.

shawhite · Jul 18, 2017

deberly12 said:
Poo poo it if you want but honestly the harbor freight 12 in dual bevel sliding is an awesome saw. It is usually around $125. I had a fine finish Diablo blade on it. I'm sure it wouldn't hold up to years of being used 8 hours a day but I made several hundred cuts with mine. It will cut pressure treated pine as fast as I can push it down. And hardwood just about as fast. It will cut a 2x12 in one pass. My old 10 non sliding wouldn't even do a 2x6 cleanly. At under $175 with a really good blade it is about a third the price of a DeWalt. It also has a Lazer that is great.

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Pretty much any saw with a decent blade will cut. It’s the quality of said cut that sets a $125 saw apart from a $400 saw. I seldom see anyone complain about how slow there saw cuts.

I personally have the Bosch 10 axial glide due to the smaller footprint. I have never found the need for a 12in mitersaw but I’m just a diy guy. All things created equal I don’t think you will find a lot of performance differences between the major brands, dewalt, Mikita, Bosch, rigid and hitatchi. Buy the one that fits your budget. Only thing I would recommend is a good stand like a gravity rise or similar because these saws are pretty heavy and it is a lot easier to use with a good stand

deberly12 · Jul 18, 2017

This is true but the OP stated he would be making a bunch of garage shelves. Garage shelves are typically not real fine finish work. That being said my saw cuts very true to angle. Other that that the quality of the cut has more to do with the blade than the saw.

I would strongly agree with getting the right stand the stand as well. The stand I had was the Craftsman miter saw stand. It was nice and would have been awesome for a non sliding saw. But a sliding saws weight can go so far behind the fence that the saw had to come forward to be balanced. This put the fence in line with the center of the rollers on the end. Basically making only half of the rollers useful.

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Boilerhouse · Jul 18, 2017

I have had a 10 inch sliding compound Makita for 10 years and it is smooth and cuts like butter. I am sure any of the major brands are great saws.

Marctrees · Jul 18, 2017

If you search in the Forum, you will find NUMEROUS mitersaw threads, many quite current. Marc

Marctrees · Jul 18, 2017

You HAVE to use the "Advanced" search function, and type "Miter" in the upper left cell. and select the " Search Titles only" option in the box immediately below where you typed "Miter"

That's ALL, no other actions needed.

Then scroll down to bottom and hit "Search Now" Marc

Michael_in_DE · Jul 18, 2017

At the time I had little money and had to buy what I could to get the job done and bought a Delta. I needed to hold its hand constantly to get correct consistent cuts. Take the advice of the those above and get a good saw.

crewchief888 · Jul 18, 2017

i went through this dilemma a couple years ago. we were replacing a lot of old trim work in our house, and adding some crown molding in places. i was getting really tired of cutting trim with a manual miter box/hand saw.

i looked at the big box stores, compared prices, and literally dicked around for a year before the wife got pissed off enough to "make" me decide.

since i already had a 10" table saw, and several newish blades, i decided to get a 10" compound slider, i eventually picked up a kobalt from lowes.

it's done everything ive needed it to, including cutting the 4 1/4" crown molding.

i picked up an inexpensive stand on clearance at menards.
the saw and stand are light enough i can get them up the basement stairs if i have a lot of cuts to make outside, and dont want to be running up ad down the stairs..

:beer:

ryan20021982 · Jul 18, 2017

Makita 10" sliding, I have used Hitachi and Dewalt and the Makita is better IMO. I have never used the Bosch Miter Saws.

bob15 · Jul 18, 2017

I bought a DW708 (12") back in the early spring for 200 bucks, very nice saw. Also American made......

I had been using a 10" DeWalt which I used for years and owes me absolutely nothing....that being said i like the 12".

Look for an older DW708, you won't be disappointed.

theoldwizard1 · Jul 19, 2017

12" ones weigh a lot ! A good 10" slider will do almost everything a 12" one will do.

VintageOkieDriver · Jul 19, 2017

Dewalt 12" model with the light that defines the kerf as a shadow as you bring the saw down to cut. Totally awesome for a DIYer like me. Great cuts, very powerful. Much better than the old C that I had!

catron44 · Jul 19, 2017

shawhite said:
Pretty much any saw with a decent blade will cut. It’s the quality of said cut that sets a $125 saw apart from a $400 saw. I seldom see anyone complain about how slow there saw cuts.

I personally have the Bosch 10 axial glide due to the smaller footprint. I have never found the need for a 12in mitersaw but I’m just a diy guy. All things created equal I don’t think you will find a lot of performance differences between the major brands, dewalt, Mikita, Bosch, rigid and hitatchi. Buy the one that fits your budget. Only thing I would recommend is a good stand like a gravity rise or similar because these saws are pretty heavy and it is a lot easier to use with a good stand

^This.

I have the dewalt because I prefer the horizontal handle and it was the most comfortable to me. I have used the kapex, Bosch slider and glider, Hitachi, ridgid and Makita. They are all nice saws. Whatever you end up with, make sure you put a good blade on it with a negative hook angle.

If you have the space and don't need to bring it anywhere, get a 12" slider. If you need portability, a 10 or even 8 1/2 would be better. We have the dw708 at work along with the 8 1/2" Makita and the guys regularly grab the Makita because it's much lighter.

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LXCam · Jul 19, 2017

After 20 years of my still operational Mikita 10" I decided last month to buy a new 12" slider (. After a couple hours of searching threads about them plus the sale that lowes had going on I bought that bad boy dewalt (dws709) that several here have mentioned. I can't even begin to express how impressed I am with its capabilities. Right out of the box without a single adjustment it was 90 degree cross cutting 12" boards on a 45 angle absolutely perfect. I do a **** load of fabrication and machining work and when I tell you the angles were on the money, they were on the money. As far as wood tools go that's the best 4 bills I've ever spent.

tarbellb · Jul 19, 2017

LXCam said:
After 20 years of my still operational Mikita 10" I decided last month to buy a new 12" slider (. After a couple hours of searching threads about them plus the sale that lowes had going on I bought that bad boy dewalt (dws709) that several here have mentioned. I can't even begin to express how impressed I am with its capabilities. Right out of the box without a single adjustment it was 90 degree cross cutting 12" boards on a 45 angle absolutely perfect. I do a **** load of fabrication and machining work and when I tell you the angles were on the money, they were on the money. As far as wood tools go that's the best 4 bills I've ever spent.

Love my Makita 1016L 10" slider! (not the mobile base so much).

gmwelder86 · Jul 20, 2017

Also look into factory refurbed units. Got a Bosch slider double bevel 10 for the fraction of new and when unboxing it outside of the small refurbished labeled you could never tell. They are big and heavy but would be hard to live without one now.

Finky198 · Jul 20, 2017

Totally Agree Cam ^^^ :beer:

I think I've only put mine away twice in 5 years. It gets a lot of use...

PugetDude · Jul 20, 2017

I bought a reconditioned 10" Makita Sliding Compound Miter about 15 years ago from......

wait for it.....

Harbor Freight! It showed up in an ad for $299? so I jumped on it.

It's been a great saw; I've used it weekly for 15 years without any issues. It will do fine finish work or crosscut a 4x12. Smooth as silk, very well balanced.
Finally had to replace the dust bag last year. Highly recommend it. :thumbup:

Rarified27 · Jul 20, 2017

I have a DeWalt 713 (10" non-sliding) and the 779 (12" sliding).

The 779 is the 780 without the XPS light- all other features are the same. We bought our house two years ago and took every room except the garage down to the studs.

Both saws were flawless and had their purpose. I cut everything from wood to aluminum backsplash tiles and experienced no bogging of the motor or odd draw on the house power (we have 150 amps and 15 at the garage outlets).

Don't forget to spend good money on a good blade!

I have an 80 tooth Diablo in the 10" (sometimes a 60 tooth) and an 80 tooth Irwin Marples in the 12". I'd give a slight edge to the Diablo for cuts accuracy/cleanliness.

The DeWalt sliding action is plenty smooth for me and I do keep the lightest amount of lube on the rails. Both have dust bags, but I still use them outside due to the mess.

mike93lx · Jul 20, 2017

I recently bought a Hitachi C12RSH2 from Lowes and like it a lot. The rails are fixed, it can sit tighter to a wall, but i have it on a Ridgid MSUV portable stand, so i just move it to where it needs to be.

Somone made a comment about handle orientation, which is really important. Make sure that you can comfortably and safely operate it with your left hand as well.

At <$400,i think it is probably the best value out there.

Miss the Pontiacs · Jul 20, 2017

I have an older 70's 120/240v Commercial B&D radial arm, but I moved it to the cottage. So about 15-20 years ago I purchased a 10" Delta Compound Mitre great little saw, nice and light. But it would only manage 6" stock if you gave the stock a little flip to finish your cut.
So when we did some wide cork flooring I purchased a 12" Milwaukee slider. Great saw and highly recommend it. The only thing with these saws as the are fairly heavy and ungainly with the accompanying bench stand. But nothing a man and a good Boy Scout can't handle.

anndel · Jul 20, 2017

I have the Milwaukee M18 cordless 10" and not very powerful though it cuts. When crosscutting 2"x6" the motor bogs down hence maybe why they went with a 7-1/4" blade with the lastest release.

marius_nortje · Jul 31, 2017

Anyone with the 10" bosch .I'm trying to find out if it run on 50/60hz.I.m in nashville Tn now but will move out of the country soon.I ask on amazon and Bosch seport answerd 50/60 hz but when I asked on their website they said just it works in the us
Thx

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Decided to go with makita 1016 since it run on 50/60 hz .Found photo on eBay

bob15 · Jul 31, 2017

Your best bet is to start a new thread and include what model saw. Is there a sticker on it? Where are you located? States or Europe? Maybe include a location under your profile.

LXCam · Jul 31, 2017

It'll run on 50Hz but not 220. You'll need to get a 120v power source.

marius_nortje · Jul 31, 2017

Most of my tools are 50/60hz the power will not be problem just frequency
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wildbill23c · Jul 31, 2017

I have a 10" and a 12" Harbor Freight sliding double bevel compound miter saw. Both work just fine, and if you actually take the time to set them up properly they're just as accurate as any other miter saw.

Have any of you actually checked your fancy miter saws to see if they are accurate? Many never have, they just assume because they spent $600 on ** color of saw that its exact right out of the box. If its off a few degrees you wouldn't know because every cut you make is off the same so of course its going to line up.

Anyhow, if you got the $$$ buy a Dewalt or a brand name saw if you are using it every day. If its just a DIY occasional use type deal the Harbor Freight models will do just fine.

You can't go wrong with a larger capacity saw...just get a good blade for it and you'll be fine. Miter saws take up quite a bit of room even more if you have it on a stand of some sort, then you have to figure out where to store it LOL. My 12" saw I have on a Harbor Freight Stand, my 10" saw is on a mobile base that I built. Neither saw is portable at this point so I have to carry materials to them or remove the bolts from the saws to make them portable which is doable, but in all seriousness though get a stand or clamp the saw down somewhere it'll make life much easier.

I've used many different saws over the years doing finish carpentry, home remodel stuff, etc. I grabbed the HF 12" saw because it was on sale for $130 once. Used it to cut laminate flooring for a couple rooms in the house. The saw did great, the blade that came with the saw was garbage but the saw did great with a Diablo blade LOL.

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