Alphalite pictures.

Paperman · Sep 27, 2017

A few have asked about the 110W $91 Alphalites. http://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/EHB2-13-p/ehb2-110.htm

Here are a few pictures.

40 of them ready to install

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What the first thing a guy does with $4k in LED lights? Take one apart

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The back of the fixture

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Here is the diffuser

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wyliesdiesels · Sep 27, 2017

$91 EACH? OUCH :scared:

Are the ballasts 10v dimmer capable?

Paperman · Sep 28, 2017

Yes, 10-100%. Haven't found a better price for the output. A bit over 14K Lumen or 130L/W. I have a good chunk of that coming back from the POCO as an incentive so that helped me swallow bill.

wyliesdiesels · Sep 28, 2017

Damn whats the rebate amount?

PoCos out here dont do anything like that for us except ask us to bend over without lube... :monkey_po

Paperman · Sep 28, 2017

They are giving a one time payment of $.40 for each(calculated) watt of reduced power consumption. That's $2k ish on this project. Old 400W HPS/MH headed to the scrap bin. removing 400W and installing 220. 180x.4-$72, $182 fixture cost- rebate= $110 or about $55 each plus install.

ard · Sep 28, 2017

$91 for ~15k lumens works out to 0.65 cents per lumen

That's about $13 for 2000 lumens, which is what a 48" tube retrofit will give you. Given you get a fixture with a diffuser, seems like a deal. That's without rebates.

ForceFed70 · Sep 28, 2017

Any pics of the power supply? Often it's the supply the makes or breaks a LED fixture.

Platonic Solid · Sep 28, 2017

SWEET!! Thanks for posting pictures. Keep em coming.

Nice deal on the rebate too.

Not sure why wyliesdiesels thinks these are expensive. $91 for 14,400 lm is a deal in my book any day.

Question: Did PoCo require DLC Listing to get the rebate or did they only require total reduced wattage spec.?

nsula_country · Sep 28, 2017

I would have jumped on 14k lumen lights for $91/ea. I paid $70 for my high bay T8 fixtures plus another $10 or so in lamps.

When I was pricing fixtures 2 years ago, a LED fixture like this was +$250.

Lets see some installed and lit!

CT

ard · Sep 28, 2017

This may be nerdy, but is there a typo on the pdf of those specs??

See page 2:

http://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/v/vspfiles/Erythin/EHB_031817.pdf

Under 'Energy Performance Data", the "Rated Wattage(W)" for the 4' frosted lens models look wrong. Like 223Watts and 321Watts??

Or I am confused...

Paperman · Sep 28, 2017

Platonic Solid said:
SWEET!! Thanks for posting pictures. Keep em coming.

Nice deal on the rebate too.

Not sure why wyliesdiesels thinks these are expensive. $91 for 14,400 lm is a deal in my book any day.

Question: Did PoCo require DLC Listing to get the rebate or did they only require total reduced wattage spec.?

They do ask for supporting data on the new fixtures. I sent them the supplier PDf with output and consumption and so far they are happy. There is a 90 day competition time frame I need to meet so now it's up to me to get moving. I borrowed my scissor lift to my father so it's a bit of a waiting game to get it back and get to work.

Paperman · Sep 28, 2017

ForceFed70 said:
Any pics of the power supply? Often it's the supply the makes or breaks a LED fixture.

I'll put on surgical gloves tonight for a little deeper autopsy.

Platonic Solid · Sep 28, 2017

ard said:
This may be nerdy, but is there a typo on the pdf of those specs??

See page 2:

http://www.ledlightingwholesaleinc.com/v/vspfiles/Erythin/EHB_031817.pdf

Under 'Energy Performance Data", the "Rated Wattage(W)" for the 4' frosted lens models look wrong. Like 223Watts and 321Watts??

Or I am confused...

Looks right to me:
41920 Lm / 321W = 131 L/W
29213 Lm / 223W = 131 L/W

brett3xx · Sep 28, 2017

Thanks, for the pics! I have 14 being delivered tomorrow

ForceFed70 · Sep 28, 2017

Paperman said:
I'll put on surgical gloves tonight for a little deeper autopsy.

Nice! TY

Platonic Solid · Sep 28, 2017

If you need the DLC info, here's a direct link (give it a few seconds)

OH_Varmntr · Sep 28, 2017

Awesome thread, I ordered 20 of the same ones and they should be delivered tomorrow.

ard · Sep 28, 2017

Platonic Solid said:
Looks right to me:
41920 Lm / 321W = 131 L/W
29213 Lm / 223W = 131 L/W

My PDF shows "22"...odd.

Platonic Solid · Sep 28, 2017

ard said:
My PDF shows "22"...odd.

You're right, I wasn't looking at the Wattage column, I was looking at the wattage in the part number.

Platonic Solid · Sep 28, 2017

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Interesting - Notice that the LED array states: "Pmax: 40W 45V 900mA 4400lm", thus the 4 arrays are capable of 17,600 lm. If the driver has a 900mA output per array 3600mA (3.6A) total, then the fixture output without the lens is 17,600, thus the lens is roughly 80% efficient (14,400/17,600). With a $10 lens change, it's possible to get around 15,840lm out of this fixture. Probably not worth it for the extra 1440 lm, but worth noting.

ard · Sep 28, 2017

They have a corrected version up on their own website, alphalite.us

Bert_ · Sep 28, 2017

wyliesdiesels said:
Damn whats the rebate amount?

PoCos out here dont do anything like that for us except ask us to bend over without lube...

Agree with Platonic, $91 is far below many other fixtures. I wouldn't be surprised to see double the amount the OP says he paid.

OH_Varmntr · Sep 29, 2017

My POCO only does commercial and industrial discounts.

wyliesdiesels · Sep 29, 2017

Bert_ said:
Agree with Platonic, $91 is far below many other fixtures. I wouldn't be surprised to see double the amount the OP says he paid.

I guess the batteries were dead in my calculator.

wned:

OH_Varmntr · Oct 7, 2017

I wired one of mine up with a whip and plugged it in while doing some night cleanup and this is what it looked like. The light is on the ground pointing up. Pretty nice if you ask me! I can't wait to see what it looks like with 20 of them inside.

https://flic.kr/p/C318eN

ard · Oct 8, 2017

Easily looks like 100 FC at 30" work plane.

Platonic Solid · Oct 8, 2017

ard said:
Easily looks like 100 FC at 30" work plane.

LOL - And all this time we've been installing fixtures in the ceiling trying to push the light down. The ultimate in shadow free lighting.

rburke65 · Oct 8, 2017

Funny Platonic....

OH_Varmntr · Oct 8, 2017

Platonic Solid said:
LOL - And all this time we've been installing fixtures in the ceiling trying to push the light down. The ultimate in shadow free lighting.

You're welcome! :lol:

OH_Varmntr · Dec 7, 2017

OH_Varmntr said:
I can't wait to see what it looks like with 20 of them inside.

Just to update this thread, here's what it looks like with 20 of them inside.

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Phone camera couldn't take the intensity :rocker:

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Platonic Solid · Dec 7, 2017

OH_Varmntr said:
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Holy ****, it looks like ET has landed in your garage.

OH_Varmntr · Dec 7, 2017

Indeed!

nsula_country · Dec 8, 2017

Very nice!

CT

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