3.5 Gallons of Evapo-Rust for $52.46

clubairth · Jun 23, 2018

I don't know how many people use this product? I love it but it's WAY to expensive for most of my work. I am always looking for a deal.
The big plus of this one is FREE shipping and at least in my state no sales tax either.

http://www.homeessentialsdepot.com/evapo-rust-evaer018-evaer018/

That is just a pinch under $15 a gallon!!
I found the price similar at other places but the shipping and tax would always make it cheaper to get locally. 3 1/2 gallons is heavy (32 LBS.) to ship for free.
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jimreed2160 · Jun 23, 2018

Thanks for the head's up. I just ordered. Should keep me derusting for quite some time. :beer:

Itsjustdirt · Jun 23, 2018

Amazon prime has it for $58. Not bashing, just sharing so people like me dont rush out and buy 5 of them. haha. Great price for sure. thanks

woodturner9 · Jun 23, 2018

Also watch the Pep Boys sales and coupons, I usually pay around $10/gallon on sale.

1901 · Jun 23, 2018

Is this reusable or is it toss after each use? For example, if I pour a little out and use, I wouldn't pour it back into the original container but can I pour into another container to re-use?

woodturner9 · Jun 23, 2018

1901 said:
Is this reusable or is it toss after each use? For example, if I pour a little out and use, I wouldn't pour it back into the original container but can I pour into another container to re-use?

It degrades once exposed to air and when used. You can reuse it for a month or so but it will be less effective.

It keeps in the original sealed bottle for a year or so.

4xdog · Jun 23, 2018

Yay! I'm in. Thanks for the alert, clubairth!

Evapo-Rust is a terrific product -- I use it all the time. It eventually gets exhausted (it'll turn blacker and blacker as it does), but if one is stingy it gets multiple uses, or a single *big* use or so.

The chemist in me believes this product is a gentle reducing agent, which means it donates electrons that are gained by the material being de-rusted. Reduction is, logically enough, the other side of the coin with oxidation. The black stuff is (also my 2 cent guess at the chemistry) is reduced iron (from iron oxide).

Here's an example of what Evapo-Rust can do on a hose clamp and section of hose from the original heater on my 1962 Triumph TR3.

jimreed2160 · Jun 23, 2018

1901 said:
Is this reusable or is it toss after each use? For example, if I pour a little out and use, I wouldn't pour it back into the original container but can I pour into another container to re-use?

I keep mine in sealed containers during and after use. My handplane bath has been in service for about a year but has done only about a dozen planes. The process takes longer as EV ages. I have found that it loses effectiveness depending on the amount of rust it encounters more than due to age.

1901 · Jun 23, 2018

Thanks everyone for the input, I never heard of this product, I'm going to buy a smaller size and try it out.

StinkinEngine · Jun 23, 2018

Anyone know a good method in recycling Evapo-Rust?

I've just been using filters, I saw a vid on Youtube where a guy used a Crockpot
but not much other details.

EOC_Jason · Jun 24, 2018

I will use coffee filters, but the product does have a finite lifespan as it does undergo a chemical reaction to remove rust. AFAIK there is no way to 'rejuvenate' it...

clubairth · Jun 24, 2018

Just a couple of hints that I use?
It's expensive so spend a good bit of time cleaning the parts before soaking them. I scrub them with soap and water and then clean them in solvent if any oil remains.

On real tough stuff I blast the item lightly to expose the surface better. I have had to blast,de-rust and blast again depending on how bad it is and how clean I want it to be.

Pull the parts every day and scrub them in soapy water. This again exposes more area for the EV to get at. I know the directions mention hours but I use days and have never seen the product cause any other problems. Sometimes is just real SLOW!

Amazon is not even close! They charge sales tax and your dreaming if you think Prime is free shipping!

I look long and hard for EV. Even Harbor Freight got smart as with a 25% off coupon I still can't get it very cheap!

You can research it but it appears this is a EDTA type chelation agent with added surfactants (soap) and de-greasing agents. Here is a pretty good thread where they are trying to figure out what's in it.

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=69793

I have a strange hobby of rust removal and currently do a good bit using vinegar. Want to use molasses too but can't find it cheap like some guys post?
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4xdog · Jun 24, 2018

^^^ I do all of this, too. Especially the degreasing part and the remove/scrub/return part.

That explanation around "chelation" has never made technical sense to me. Sure, there may be a chelating agent to keep the metal ******* once removed (although I wouldn't bet a lot even on that, but I do not see chelation as an adequate description of what happens. It's a smoke screen, IMO. I'd bet a nickel on reducing agents being the key, just like electrolysis or molasses.

'Course I've spend the last forty years in polymer science and technology, not electrochemistry, but still...

1320 · Jun 24, 2018

EOC_Jason said:
I will use coffee filters, but the product does have a finite lifespan as it does undergo a chemical reaction to remove rust. AFAIK there is no way to 'rejuvenate' it...

Use coffee filters for what?

beelsr · Jun 24, 2018

to strain out particulate matter and oils.

Polo_Karl · Jun 25, 2018

Looks like Farm and Fleet has 3.5 gallons on sale for 40dollars for those of you in Northern Illinois.

sbosecker · Jun 26, 2018

I placed my order with Home Essentials Depot late on the 23rd. I have received an email indicating it has shipped but when I click on the tracking link it either is a broken link or a new window opens with the same order page...

Should I suspect treachery?

Scott

beelsr · Jun 26, 2018

the link in the email is invalid.
the link on the order page online is invalid.

copy the # and paste it into google as "tracking #######" and google says that number is a fedex number.

I just checked now and got the proper details. shipping from wixom, mi thru livonia, mi and now in perrysburg, oh. should be here tomorrow.

sbosecker · Jun 26, 2018

beelsr said:
the link in the email is invalid.
the link on the order page online is invalid.

copy the # and paste it into google as "tracking #######" and google says that number is a fedex number.

I just checked now and got the proper details. shipping from wixom, mi thru livonia, mi and now in perrysburg, oh. should be here tomorrow.

beelsr,

Thanks... those are the responses I got initially as well.

I did as you suggested and googled the number. FedEx supposedly has it and it is our for delivery.

Best regards,

Scott

clubairth · Jun 27, 2018

Wanted to post back that I got my order as promised so I don't think it's a scam or treachery!

The way I understand chelation is from the application I first heard it used for. They feed people who are poisoned with heavy metals things like EDTA. These large man made molecule are water soluble and attach very strongly to the heavy metals which are stuck in your body in a form that is NOT water soluble.

Why this is important is your body can get rid of water soluble compounds very easy. So now you can process and excretes the heavy metals thru your urine. They can actually monitor the rate at which you excrete these metals so they know when to stop the treatment.

So normal rust (Iron Oxide) is NOT soluble in water (It actually is but to a very minor level) but when chelated with ER (or whatever is in it if it's NOT EDTA) now the rust IS water soluble and floats off like what we see happening using ER. Another reason why daily scrubbing of your parts makes ER work so much better.

If anyone sees better pricing please post the link and not some vague reference about where to look. That does no one any good.

I have several batches of EV going. I use until it's a black goo. I just pour all my odds and ends together. It's hard to get enough volume to submerge larger parts. Even when very weak a long soaking can still save many hours of cleaning.

One draw back I found is a strong "water-line" effect. Between air and the EV. This is even worse when using vinegar. I can usually rub it out with Never-Dull and Chrome Polish.

Yes once it's gone it's gone. It's a chemical reaction so it's like cleaning your battery terminals with baking soda. It will keep fizzing until the acid is eaten up or until you run out of baking soda. But a VERY good suggestion to strain out what you can. I might try the coffee filter trick to so thanks for that!

Really interested in the comment about using EV with electrolysis?
I have done a lot with electrolysis and it's a very technique sensitive process. Is the ER used in place of the washing soda or is the washing soda dissolved into the ER?

Dang just checked and no longer available so you guys ran them out!!
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Polo_Karl · Jun 27, 2018

"If anyone sees better pricing please post the link and not some vague reference about where to look. That does no one any good." --- Was this in reference to my giving a head ups that Farm and Fleet has it cheaper in store?

beelsr · Jun 27, 2018

and mine arrived today, also.

macgee · Jun 28, 2018

I would get mine from Walmart. A bunch of times I would get it cheap with free delivery pick-up at my closest store. I looked at my records and I have bought 1 gallon sizes for $15 and for $18 plus local tax.
Right now the price is too high but I have high confidence it will be on sale again. Just keep an eye on it. Sorry I couldn't be more useful.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Evapo-Rust-Super-Safe-Rust-Remover-Gallon/48810395

FWIW: I have spoken at length with the tech guys at Evapo-Rust, the difference in performance between cold temps and high temps is significant. I can attest to that, where I live it would get up to 105 in the shade and when leaving a batch in a semi enclosed container outside in the sun heat (u need some venting), I would get significantly better results in the same time frame compared to normal 70 degree air temp, it's almost laughable how quick it works in the heat. When it's in the 40's-50's, it takes forever. Over twice the time of normal temps. Also degreasing and remove thick junk off item will give you significant better results so evapo rust can get directly to the metal. Evapo is not a degreaser

Also try to buy the newest batch, like from a place that does a lot of volume/turnover. Shelf life will make a big difference/effect it even when new and never opened so make sure don't buy a dusty one and use it soon. The guys at Evapo-Rust were very friendly and informative.

I agree 1-2 coffee filters in a large funnel is the way to go. HAPPY CLEANING!

1901 · Jul 10, 2018

The 3.5gal Evapo-Rust is today's Amazon Lightning Deal for $46.56!

I just ordered mine, perfect timing.

steve stone · Jul 10, 2018

thanks for the heads up 1901 !

thecody59 · Jul 10, 2018

I just got a product called Rust911. It costs about $60 for a gallon but it mixes with water and makes 16 gallons. It is supposed to work just as good as Evapo-rust. This stuff costs around $3 a gallon once you mix it with water. The cheapest you can get Evapo-rust at is around $12-$15 a gallon.

PFSard · Jul 10, 2018

thecody59 said:
I just got a product called Rust911. It costs about $60 for a gallon but it mixes with water and makes 16 gallons. It is supposed to work just as good as Evapo-rust. This stuff costs around $3 a gallon once you mix it with water. The cheapest you can get Evapo-rust at is around $12-$15 a gallon.

I've heard of the stuff. I'll be in the market within the next year for more rust elimination products as I am running short of Evapo-Rust (which has worked great for me).

If you have the inclination and the time (realizing that you are trying to deal with a clogged-up work-space and assuming you have Evapo-Rust), I'd be interested in a real-life comparison (in another thread, of course). I'm sure others would too, given the substantial price differential between the two products.

woodturner9 · Jul 11, 2018

thecody59 said:
This stuff costs around $3 a gallon once you mix it with water. The cheapest you can get Evapo-rust at is around $12-$15 a gallon.

I usually pay around $10/gal for Evaporust, but if the $3/gal stuff works as well, it's worth considering.

4xdog · Jul 11, 2018

I had a chance to use my bucket o' Evapo-Rust yesterday.

Yes, it's expensive. But, man, I love how this stuff works. Here's an example of very light de-rusting on some lightly-rusted unpainted metal center console reinforcements on my 2003 Tacoma. Post Evapo-Rust, the metal looks brand new.

Before Evapo-Rust:

After Evapo-Rust:

W_E_S · Jul 11, 2018

58.20 on Amazon with prime

Melmoore134 · Feb 10, 2019

I found 16-gallons of Rust911 for $59.50 plus FREE SHIPPING on their website

tool_scrounge · Feb 10, 2019

Melmoore134 said:
I found 16-gallons of Rust911 for $59.50 plus FREE SHIPPING on their website

I cannot find it. Could you please post the link?

PAToyota · Feb 10, 2019

Right on the front page of their website - $59.50 for a gallon of concentrate.

Dh3256 · Feb 10, 2019

clubairth said:
That is just a pinch under $15 a gallon!!

If you have Pep Boys in your area, it's typically around $12/gallon on sale.

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