Between 265 & 485 SQ/FT Subterranean Two Car Garage

pjmariner · Aug 3, 2018

Hi,

I have been lurking for several years, gleaming ideas and inspiration so its about time I contribute.... I need 5 post before I can add pctures apparently so....

pjmariner · Aug 3, 2018

...here is post number 2. I bought my house about 2 years ago, after searching long and hard for an affordable house with a 2 car garage so I can move all my tool in and build a new shop, similar but better by learning from my first shop what I want to change...

pjmariner · Aug 3, 2018

...I always wished in first shop I did something with cement walls, and since this garage is a 2 car under, with only the front wall exposed, I have a lot of cement in this garage to deal with. The upside is it remains about 15 degrees cooler in the summer, and 15 degrees warmer in the winter than outside temp with no heating or cooling.

pjmariner · Aug 3, 2018

....Hence the name subterranean garage. When I moved in I only added lights to garage and painted ceiling, and since I was redoing most of the interior before I moved in, including a complete kitchen remodel, the garage sadly had to wait.... Since I have a full time job and I did 90% of all renovations by myself the house took me about a year to finish working at night and weekends between kids practices etc

pjmariner · Aug 3, 2018

So one more post and I can start struggling to get pictures in, hopefully it goes as planned....

1/2 Cup · Aug 3, 2018

pjmariner looking forward to your pics. :thumbup:

pjmariner · Aug 3, 2018

I have lots of pics of the house renovation I may share later, but for now I will stick to the garage..

Here it is on day I closed, it is 18' deep, 24' wide, and ceilings a touch over 7 feet....

wood doors with serious moisture issues..

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shelves I removed...

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pegboard that was run all the way down to the floor and sucked up moisture and mold....

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More shelving I removed...

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wall to wall view, complete with annoying pole in the middle just like last garage

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One of first things I bought for house, And a huge key to garage happiness I learned the hard way from last gargage, here is my 12x8 shed to keep bikes/tractors/yard toys etc out of the garage. Nothing worse then clutter and **** in my worshop. The shed is covered in LP smart siding which I ended using to panel walls in shop. It is good stuff. I debated buiklding a shed, but having this delivered assembled and ready to go was a huge time saver and well worht the cost.

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I added a shelf accross back for snow tiers etc, and stretchers across roof for rakes and shovels...

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pjmariner · Aug 3, 2018

First thing I did was painted sewer pipes and support poles with rust converting paint after wire brushing off heavy stuff

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Next I patched and painted ceilings, you can how dingy they were...

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Here is my ligthing, there are 12 total 4 foot leds on this worshop side of the garage, this is side where tools will stay, other side will be open to park car and used as assembly area for large projects. The other side has 8 lights total. I added outlets where the old single light bulbs were so I could run them off existing light switch. The old garage doors were so close to the ceiling, I had to hang half the lights from uni-strut, and door actually goes over them. It worked pretty good. When I replaced doors I went with 6'6" door for a better fit and I was able to get lights flush to ceiling. But for those who want lights to be useful when garage door is up, this could be a good idea. I prefer my lights on the ceiling since they are only 7' to start with.

Now with enough lighting so I could see what I am doing, this would be the last thing I would do on garage for about a year, as my focus at that point became renovating house so I could actually move into it at some point.

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pjmariner · Aug 3, 2018

Last December finally replaced garage door, good bye wood, hello insulated steel. Doors are 6"6 tall, which allows lights to fit under door, liftmaster lift on the car side door, Azek trim all around the door openings.

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Now I can remove uni-strut hanging lights and have lights flush mounted on ceiling, more headroom and better light reflection

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pjmariner · Aug 3, 2018

A few weeks ago I finally bought supplies to finish the walls in my garage. 17 sheets of LP smart siding, a pile of 2x3s a case of PL premium, and a couple boxes of yellow ramset bullets and pins and I am ready for action

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I buttered up each 2x3 with pl premium, laid them on their face and attached them about 3 inches up from floor to top of the cement portion of wall. The cement is very hard and most pins need 2 loads to get driven flush, and I had several just blow out and crumble in the concrete. but with persistence I got them all up.

The idea here is to keep panels off the floor, off the wall and shy of the ceiling, this will allow air to circulate behind them and keep them dry and mold free. The LP smart panels are very water resistant, so I have no worries about them in this install.

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With 2x3's up I ran 12-3 romex for my multi-circuit wiring. I am going to put about 20 4 square surface mounted boxes on the paneling. By surfacing mounting boxes if I every want to expand I can run conduit and surface mount new box wherever necessary. I will have 1 white and 1 almond duplex outlet in each box, one for each circuit, that way I can run a vacuum and tool on separate circuits at every 4 square box. I am using a bi-pole 20amp GFI circuit breaker and standard outlets. More to come on the wiring...

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pjmariner · Aug 4, 2018

This is my little invention that proved a life saver. I took the plate off my floor jack, and drilled holes in it and counter sunk them so I could attach wood for a "fork lift". This will allow me to put the panel on the jack and hold them in place while I adjust and attach them to the wall with pl premium and finish nails. Since I work by myself this was super handy since I want the panels for the walls to be flush at the top and bottom and equidistant to the ceiling. the floor pitches towards the garage door so shims would not work well as every panel closer to the garage door is a bit higher off the floor than the last.

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02blueru · Aug 4, 2018

Subscribed! I have a split entry home with the same partially finished walls and was going to commit to just painting them and running conduit. Interested in how it turns out.

pjmariner · Aug 4, 2018

Thanks. I debated the same thing for awhile. Conduit done right looks slick, but this solution was super simple. Hardest part was phishing wire across ceiling. I did all the rough wiring in about 2 hours. I have six boxes I will put on front of workbench that will run along shop wall once I frame that out. Best part is with the surface mounted boxes I can add more outlets easily using conduit in the future.

Platonic Solid · Aug 4, 2018

I have a similarly low garage ceiling. When I originally ordered my low headroom garage doors from Clopay they came with the double track as you have. After installing the first of 2 doors I was immediately dissatisfied. I found the cable protrusions into the space to be an unacceptable hazardous annoyance. Additionally the tension of that system pulls the bottom panel away from the house enough to create a convenient criter entrance. I exchanged the double track for single track with 12" radius and quick return brackets. This put the cable out of the way (like standard height garage doors) and allowed the bottom of the door to sit flush to the wall. The "super sneaky" brackets may work also (with single track), but I didn't try those.

pjmariner · Aug 4, 2018

Here is the paneling going up, i kept it about 1.5 inches from ceiling and 2.5 inches from floor to allow for airflow behind panels. I love the primer color on this paneling, a nice tan/beige, since I am primarily a woodworker it will help hide all the saw dust. I have some exterior paint color matched to the primer so I can paint the walls sections I don't panel, as well as any touch-up etc to the paneling it self.

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I built a removable valance to cover all the wires coming into panel. it just sits on top of panel.

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I had debated trim or no trim on panels, once it was up I decided it needed something to finish it off near the ceilings/corners. I ended up ripping 1.5" strips of leftover paneling to create the trim. I had plenty of drops from the paneling and is already painted to match.

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pjmariner · Aug 4, 2018

I decided where sewer pipe is to stop paneling about 65" up the wall, then I will paint wall same color as the paneling

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When I got to far corner of garage, i notice the plaster incorner is spongy and 2x4 sill plate is rotten... after digging around i removed all the plaster and found corner of garage had some signifcant damage. Since I plan on residing house in next couple years, i decided to cut out rot and graft in new sheeting so i could save original shingle for now.

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I cut out rotten section, and replace sill plates with pressure treated 2x4 and copious amounts of construction adhesive.

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I then added flashing between old sheeting and inside sheeting repair I made with Azek board. On outside added new azek trim, and replaced trim on other side of house while I was at it, thankfully no rot on that side

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with the rot dealt with it was back to the paneling.

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That is all the progress I have made to this point. This weekend I plan a much needed garage vacuum/leaf blowing session, and then I will paint the exposed plaster and touch up the panels where needed

pjmariner · Aug 4, 2018

Platonic Solid said:
I have a similarly low garage ceiling. When I originally ordered my low headroom garage doors from Clopay they came with the double track as you have. After installing the first of 2 doors I was immediately dissatisfied. I found the cable protrusions into the space to be an unacceptable hazardous annoyance. Additionally the tension of that system pulls the bottom panel away from the house enough to create a convenient criter entrance. I exchanged the double track for single track with 12" radius and quick return brackets. This put the cable out of the way (like standard height garage doors) and allowed the bottom of the door to sit flush to the wall. The "super sneaky" brackets may work also (with single track), but I didn't try those.

That is good to know, The wires are indeed a bit of hazard /nuisance, I may look into that.

cortina64 · Aug 4, 2018

You have done a great job on the panelling, the garage will be a nice place to work.

Warren

James-W · Aug 4, 2018

The garage is coming along nicely, but I have a question. How do you keep water from running down into the garage? It would seem to me that with the garage underground like that and with a slope going down to it, there will be a water problem.

pjmariner · Aug 4, 2018

James-W said:
The garage is coming along nicely, but I have a question. How do you keep water from running down into the garage? It would seem to me that with the garage underground like that and with a slope going down to it, there will be a water problem.

Good question. In nearly 2 years since I’ve owned house with some serious snow and storms I have never had water in the garage. There are 4 large steel grates, with French drain in front of the garage doors at lowest point of the driveway. After the grates the driveway starts to pitch other direction as you enter garage . Also, the top of my driveway has a hump keeping it about four inches above road level, and keeping any runoff out of the driveway.

pjmariner · Aug 14, 2018

Finished hanging last couple of panels, and painted all the exposed walls, door, trim etc the same color as the paneling.

Next Step is a needed clean up, outlet wiring, and start the Miter station/workbench/storage that will run the full length of the left wall.
I have quite a few cools idea for the bench I am still hashing out.

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fowldarr · Aug 14, 2018

Looking good. Amazing what some new walls and paint does for a place.

pjmariner · Aug 21, 2018

Outlet wiring

Started wiring my outlets. As I mentioned earlier, I am doing a multi-circuit run with 12/3 romex with ground and double pole 20amp GFCI breaker.

Since the 2 circuits share a neutral you need to pigtail connections. One big added benefit to this is I can do the majority of the outlet wiring sitting comfortably at my table. Once this process is done and the boxes are prepped all i need to do is make connections and attach cover. I am using wago's for the connections, so the amount of fiddling with wires at the box is minimal, hopefully speeding things up and reducing frustration/increasing my sanity. I using wagos for the connections.

Here is my pigtail pile,

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Here is one cover completed and ready to go

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Here is the connection with the wagos at the box. This is the last box in the run if you wondering where the rest of the wires are. This is the only box I have mounted to wall yet and I was curious how it would all work/look/etc so I decided to wire this one first.

Next step is to mount all the boxes, prep them all, prep all the outlets, wire the breaker into panel, etc.

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One down about 19 to go :wtf:

Terrick down Under · Aug 22, 2018

Great work so far, I have just used a very similar looking product down here for the exterior sections of our house, but it is Fibre cement board. Waiting to see your ideas for the benches.

pjmariner · Aug 23, 2018

Terrick down Under said:
Great work so far, I have just used a very similar looking product down here for the exterior sections of our house, but it is Fibre cement board. Waiting to see your ideas for the benches.

The products do look similar. I think the engineered paneling has come a long way in recent years. Was the fiber cement easy to work with? I know here some of the Hardin-siding can be a bit difficult because of all the fiber/cement dust etc.

SynergyMike · Aug 23, 2018

Re: Outlet wiring

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One down about 19 to go

Nice job on the prep work!

Platonic Solid · Aug 25, 2018

pjmariner said:
A few weeks ago I finally bought supplies to finish the walls in my garage. 17 sheets of LP smart siding, a pile of 2x3s a case of PL premium, and a couple boxes of yellow ramset bullets and pins and I am ready for action

Thanks for introducing me to this product. I'm going to use it on the outside of my shed rehab.

BlueBomber · Aug 25, 2018

A nicely transformed space, and good thinking on the electrical approach. You must have a tolerant better half to be able to work on all that wiring at your table.

pjmariner · Aug 25, 2018

Taking a break from the garage for a minute, here is a bit more on my living room where i was doing the wiring, it was part of my never ending home renovation project...

This is what it looked like when I bought it

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Here it is after paint, floors refinished and my sectional I absolutely love.

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The old mantle was very plain, flat, was splitting at the seems, and did not fit with my audio visual needs so I took it down.

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I made a shaker style mantle that will add dimension to the wall, plus leave room for me to run all my audio and visual wires

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The last pieces of trim will cover the screws mounting the mantle. The mantle top is removable to aid in wiring

In the bottom left of picture you can see my coffee table which is a chunk of maple from my neighborhood bowling alley growing up, wrapped in mahogany with mahogany legs, I don't know if I have any more pics on that project, I built it about 10 years ago.

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Here it is painted and installed, with a 65 inch Sharp 4k tv

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I used low voltage recessed wall plates to finish mantle where wires come out. i have one at the bottom of each mantle leg, and one under the TV. Unlike running wires through the walls i can easily add or remove wires from this setup and still hide all wires.

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Here is my mid-fi collection of used mostly american 2.1 channel audio.

Carver a500x amp
AMC CD9 cd player
B&K PT3 series II preamp
Esinkin Blue tooth adapter *single greatest $20 i have ever spent. Once you stream music through a real stereo system you will never want to stream through some rechargeable mini speaker again, simply no comparison.

Speakers are Acoustic Energy Aesprit 309
sub is a Bic f12

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Platonic Solid · Aug 25, 2018

Re: Outlet wiring

pjmariner said:
Here is one cover completed and ready to go

I must be slightly OCD as the mismatched outlet colors would drive me nuts.

Real nice work on that mantle :thumbup:

pjmariner · Aug 25, 2018

Re: Outlet wiring

Platonic Solid said:
I must be slightly OCD as the mismatched outlet colors would drive me nuts.

Real nice work on that mantle

I get the OCD thing. In my mind the thought was to be able to look anywhere in garage and see what circuit a tool is plugged into so if I want I can be sure I use a different circuit for different tool. I suppose I could just “know” left outlet is one circuit and right outlet is the other, but that concept bothered me more then dual colored outlets. In actuality when u see 18 boxes all setup the same way it starts to look more consistent and less random.

Terrick down Under · Sep 4, 2018

Agreed, I thought that the colours would drive you nuts, but the logic is very clear.

pjmariner · Nov 9, 2018

Its been awhile since I updated, progress slow during son's football season

Here are the outlets on the long miter/work bench wall, the bottom two outlets with coiled wire will be inside the work bench, one for a vacuum, one for a compressor. once bench is mounted I will mount 5 more boxes in the face of the work bench.

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the back wall is where tool chest etc will go

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there is an box in the center of ceiling on both bays of garage, plus one on the support beam in middle of garage

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Made a spot for my grandfathers 70's classic Zenith "circle of sound" radio, essentially a downward firing 360 degree horn loaded clock radio, easily fills garage with tunes, and it is fully enclosed with no vents, and the with the bottom firing horn speaker is essentially "dust proof" perfect for a woodworking shop.

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Started workbench, ripped down the boards left behind from the storage shelves when I bought the house into 2x4, and setup ledger board around perimeter.

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The front of the work bench is all 5/4 pine. I made them essentially like an oversized face frame. The 5/4 is not much more than dimensional lumber, and tends to be much straighter and easy to work with

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More salvaged shelve woods is used for the stringers.

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That is where I am at with work bench for now, next step is finish framing, run wire and add outlet boxes to face frames,
add doors/top/miter track/mites saw, etc..... I also have some old kitchen cabinets I will reface/repurpose to match

Other mini project, previous owners left on the storage shelves a rusty Boston L pencil sharpener with missing handle, so I took time for minor resto...

here is catch before the white vinegar dip

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here it is after 2 hours and a rub down with some aluminum foil.

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here it is with a little time at buffing wheel, and an old screw driver handle cut down and reshaped for a new handle

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1/2 Cup · Nov 9, 2018

pjmariner great work as usual, thank you for the update :thumbup:

pjmariner · Nov 15, 2018

So I got my Wen air cleaner today, and I came up with a good way to mount it nearly flush to the ceiling, yet still be able to remove it if need be.

I only have 7' ceilings so every inch counts. With the supplied hooks on the ceiling, and hooks on top of the air cleaner, that would put the unit at about 5'10" in my shop, aka too low.
the air cleaner itself is 10" tall, and with this mounting system, mounted it is just over 11" tall, and it is about 6'1" below air cleaner now.

here is how i mounted it using unistrut attached to ceiling and unistrut attached to unit to make a sliding rail.

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Here you can see it is tucked over my sewer pipe, and clears by an inch, allowing me to get it as close as possible to my longest back wall. The zip tie goes through a hole in rail attached to ceiling to keep it positioned front to back. i doubt it would move anyway, its a friction fit.

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Here you can see output is along the long wall, to promote circulation

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This weekend its back to working on the miter station/workbench

pjmariner · Dec 6, 2018

lots of work happening, I finished wiring all the outlets for the work bench, the long end has three boxes, plus one box in cabinet for vacuum, the short end has two boxes plus one in cabinet for compressor

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I hung and framed wallpeg vinyl pegbopard, then added my tekton metric/SAE wrenches, took a few tries to get the layout right

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next the bench tops, two layers of mdf, a sheet of hardboard, and maple edge banding, and several coats of wipe on poly, and two coats of the wall color paint on the bench

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next is the cradle for the Bosch glide saw, this things rocks

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I unearthed my Morgan 88 from storage, This is what it looks like after I lubed the main screw and gave it several wd40 rubdowns. I got the vise on ebay about a year ago, it had surface rust, but very minor usage. Jaws are like new. I don't plan on doing much else to it but using it and keep it well oiled.

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This was nerve raking to say the least. Routing 8' foot channel for T-track in fully finished and mounted bench. I also routed a shallow channel for tape measure that my stop block will utilize

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Here is my stop block solution gleamed from many ideas i have seen, and modified for my purpose. I don't like vertical miter fences because they take up bench space, and when long boards have a bow as most do, they get in way and make keeping board square to miter fence an issue. Also, when this stop block is removed i have a flat, fully usable 8 foot bench, and the track can also be used for hold downs for sanding etc.

The stop block uses a heavy duty 4.5 inch ball bearing hinge so it can flip out of the way when cleaning up edges or making quick rough cross cuts. The tape is a Starrett left reading 12' tape. I also added a Lexan cursor for the tape measure which I scribed and colored with a red sharpie. It is slotted to fine tune the stop block for perfect length cuts. It has a hard maple runner and one bolt for the t-track knob. Now i have it dialed in I can cut any length board up to 9 feet within a 64th of an inch with repeatability. For short cuts I have a 20"spacer block, and use that to cut pieces < 20" perfectly.

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I used the saw heavily for a day, and while the vacuum and modified dust boot does great job on short cross cuts. On wider boards, or miters, especially when cutting fast I was getting to much dust so i built a dust hood and the difference is night and day. It does cover a fair amount of my pegboard, but I can hang tools from hood too down the road if i see fit. With the hood and the vacuum I get almost zero dust on the bench

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Here you can see the vacuum in the cabinet which i control with a remote, and the duststopper separator under the saw. I have a hose running out to table saw, and a hose for the miter saw, and simply switch them at the separator when needed. The dustopper works very well keeping filter clean and making clean out easy.

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I almost done with the initial shop build. all that is left is to paint and hang doors for work benches, and renovate, paint and hang old kitchen cabinets that will go above long end of work bench.

hdv32 · Dec 6, 2018

Great job so far

larry4406 · Dec 7, 2018

Very nice transformation of the shop!

oilslick · Dec 7, 2018

Very nice, I like a lot of your ideas and designs.

bj383ss · Dec 7, 2018

Miter saw bench came out great. I see you joined the "dark side" of no miter fence. I like your stop block solution as well. I think you should rename your thread the 4 Gang Outlet Shop. Seriously though I am a little jealous at how many outlets you have.

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