Above 1200 Sq/FT kap384's Canadian Attached Garage - New air compressor

kap384 · Sep 1, 2018

kap384's Canadian Attached Garage

So, I'd been documenting this on one of the motorcycle forums I belong to, but this makes a lot more sense.

Sorry for the long first post. 3 1/2 years ago I bought an original 1964 bungalow on a large pie lot (2nd largest lot on the 20 house crescent surrounding a park). 38' frontage, ~115' by 100' by ~140' down long side. I had been searching for 2 years for a large enough lot, close enough to work and amenities, pre-70's build for good bones and a bungalow for a large footprint (big basement). Oh, and at the right price!

Purchased it from the son of the couple that built the house and the house he grew up in. He now lived there with his family but had only given one bathroom and the kitchen lipstick renovations. The rest of the house was all 1964 short of some early 90's carpet in the main area of the basement.

House originally had a detached 2 car garage secured to the house with a carport. My plan was to full gut reno the house, add an extra story, and build as large an attached garage as I could.

Here it was

Long story short, I was significant cash ahead to demo the house instead of reno. The house was too good to throw away (2 wood burning fireplaces, 2 furnaces, natural gas plumbed everywhere, sound, solid fir construction), so I didn't like that and instead sold it to a house mover. It's now parked on a new foundation a few 100 kms away. I built up essentially the same house fresh from the original foundation as I already had the development permit approved with the city.

For instance, you might notice that other than larger windows, a redesigned chimney and an extended entry overhand, its the same house. Same rooflines, same dimensions.

So the final size of the garage is just a bit under 1600 ft^2. 6 car garage in my books. You might be saying 'that's a really small garage door for that large a garage). It is only a 8' x 12' door.

To understand you need to see this plan:

Inside the outline of the new garage you can see the original (not too shabby) detached double garage. I feel this puts everything in perspective when you see how much larger the new footprint is.

kap384 · Sep 1, 2018

So the plan was a coated floor, 2 post lift, tons of lighting, good air system, adequate tool storage and work surface, adequate storage in general, TV, tunes and a keg on tap.

Went with an industrial quality product (Legacy Industrial)out of the States for the floor. $3K in product alone. Here are some of the pics of the application

Cut lines sealed

One of my buddies that helped with the application.

Final Product

Notice the double sink and and the urinal in the corner. The urinal is to go with the still to come keg, but the sink is one of only 3 things I kept from the original house. This was the laundry sink in the old basement. Original taps work great! Mail slot and the fireplace tools are the other 2.

Lights are awesome and all LED tubes. Glass overhead door on the side was my friend's idea. It's great in the summer to open up for entertaining or getting the lawnmower out.

Here it is in winter

kap384 · Sep 1, 2018

First toy moves in

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More toys

All the toys

Started solving my storage issue with this monster tool chest from Home Depot and shelf from Costco (though I'd later sell it)

Got these stainless lowers at Costco as well as this 70" 4K TV

Only work surfaces left will be an all metal table for heavy work, welding and to attach my vintage vise to and a desk to do small detailed work (like models, R/C aircraft, and working on the computer).

Last thing for this post is my Uncle Ross's vintage Wharfdale floor standing speakers hanging up on the wall. Had to find super strong speaker mounts but got them up there. Running them with his vintage JVC amp and tuner. Sadly, he passed away young so I got this set when I was back in university. He'd approve of them being around cars and motorcycles.

kap384 · Sep 1, 2018

Last post for tonight will be the story of the 2 post lift.

Here it is delivered, after the incompetent first crew ended up with 1 kid breaking his arm unloading it.

When they returned, they proceeded to scratch the hell out of my floor. Also, I wasn't around so I could tell them that the preferred way to install the posts was to splay them outwards to leave more room for opening vehicle doors. Oh well. I got the install cost cut in half.

It works great. Next post will be my grandparent's original 1951 Frigidaire and some wall ornamentation.

1/2 Cup · Sep 1, 2018

kap384 well done. :thumbup:

Plus some awesome toys

kap384 · Sep 1, 2018

1/2 Cup said:
kap384 well done.

Plus some awesome toys

Thanks!

Oggy · Sep 1, 2018

Looks good, can't wait for the bar update

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Unruh · Sep 1, 2018

The entire garage looks great. I’m a little bit jealous about you having a drain in the floor. I always thought that would come in handy.

hemifalcon · Sep 1, 2018

kap384 said:
Last post for tonight will be the story of the 2 post lift.

Here it is delivered, after the incompetent first crew ended up with 1 kid breaking his arm unloading it.

When they returned, they proceeded to scratch the hell out of my floor. Also, I wasn't around so I could tell them that the preferred way to install the posts was to splay them outwards to leave more room for opening vehicle doors. Oh well. I got the install cost cut in half.

It works great. Next post will be my grandparent's original 1951 Frigidaire and some wall ornamentation.

I’m kind of curious about your complaint about them needing to “splay outwards” the lift posts. That isn’t an assymetric lift unless it’s designed to be mounted in both ways-which I do not believe is likely. [emoji848]

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kap384 · Sep 1, 2018

hemifalcon said:
I’m kind of curious about your complaint about them needing to “splay outwards” the lift posts. That isn’t an assymetric lift unless it’s designed to be mounted in both ways-which I do not believe is likely. [emoji848]

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It is an asymmetric lift designed to be run straight or splayed. By the time I got home and showed them the instructions they'd thrown to the floor, anchors were in place as was top bar. I wasn't going to redo it. All good though, just be a little more careful opening vehicle doors.

kap384 · Sep 1, 2018

Unruh said:
The entire garage looks great. I’m a little bit jealous about you having a drain in the floor. I always thought that would come in handy.

Good eye. Nice long drain with the entire front of the garage draining into it. That is where I park daily drivers and wash vehicles. Back two thirds of the slab is perfectly flat. I've wrenched in a shop with an entirely sloped floor, fasteners roll FOREVER!

Funny thing is, the city specified drain simply dumped into a 4" pipe that had a p-trap just down stream. Grate has relatively narrow slits, but still, I didn't want all the solid material going down the drain. So after inspection, I fabricated a perforated dam with fairly small holes that let water drain but hold back almost all solids. Installed just before the 4" pipe. Works great. I just wait for it to dry then clean-out once a year with the shop-vac.

kap384 · Sep 1, 2018

Try to get the story to present day tonight. So I promised to show my grandparent's 1951 Frigidaire in all it's glory. Here it is.

Bought new in 1951 but my parents had it from around 1985 on. It was our second fridge in the basement. Dad replaced the thermostat in the 90's but other than that, trouble free. These days Dad was using it very little so we hauled it out of there and I dragged it home.

Not going to mess up that beautiful door so I'll go with an inside keg option. Build a nice mount for the tap and spill catch and I'm off to the races.

Now for the the wall candy.

Got this banner on eBay years ago.

Thought I'd have lots of options to hang the thing in this garage but then I went and put windows on the longest wall. So this is what I had to do.

Next thing on the agenda is to get the long wall (with the windows) filled with cabinets. Currently the floor is filled with way too much stuff that has no engine or wheels. Everything that isn't a car, truck or motorcycle will go behind doors. Also, lots of seasonal things like Christmas lights, patio cushions as well as extra stuff from inside the house. I didn't build a ton of storage in there.

So I got my finish carpenter back to build up my vision. Wall full of cabinets, including a closet to hold motorcycle and ski gear as well as a custom desk over by the fridge to do smaller, detailed work.

Boxes are complete, he's just finishing doors and the desk. Hope to be done in the next few weeks.

Boxes have been delivered.

Next steps once those are installed and filled:
- Sort my tools into all of the storage
- Purchase the metal bench I have my eyes on for under the cabinets and mount my vise
- Purchase the new air compressor
- Install air system and retractable extension cords.
- Grab the telescoping tools to go with the lift(fluid drain, jackstands)

Nothing but wrench, wrench, wrench (well, maybe watch some TV and drink some beer in between)

kruizer66 · Sep 2, 2018

Wow. Very impressed with your new toy space. Did you do any of the work yourself or just contract out the whole thing?

kap384 · Sep 2, 2018

Thanks. Way to busy with work to entertain this sort of project. All construction has been outsourced. I tackle projects like Home Theatre builds, A/V wiring, keg systems. Thanks for looking

CombatNinja · Sep 2, 2018

Wow, just...wow. That is exactly my idea of a perfect garage right there. I live with just my wife and have no kids so our house is small and I have always struggled with the what if I decide to build my dream shop--how would I make it so it doesn't look ridiculous next to a small house? Nobody would ever know from walking by your house that the garage is that big. Genius...

346ci · Sep 2, 2018

Nice WS6 and garage! I ordered a 2000 SS in '99, kind of wished it had been a Firehawk or WS6 as you didn't see many of them vs the SS cars.

kap384 · Sep 2, 2018

CombatNinja said:
Wow, just...wow. That is exactly my idea of a perfect garage right there. I live with just my wife and have no kids so our house is small and I have always struggled with the what if I decide to build my dream shop--how would I make it so it doesn't look ridiculous next to a small house? Nobody would ever know from walking by your house that the garage is that big. Genius...

Thanks. Far from genius, my hand was forced with my extreme pie lot, but yes, it is sneaky big unless you have a drone.

kap384 · Sep 2, 2018

346ci said:
Nice WS6 and garage! I ordered a 2000 SS in '99, kind of wished it had been a Firehawk or WS6 as you didn't see many of them vs the SS cars.

Thanks. Firehawks are so cool. Lusted after this car when it came out, second owner, only 19,000 miles on it now. Turns out the WS6 conversion was performed on my freakin birthday!

e-tek · Sep 3, 2018

Very nice set up and good ideas! Want to see what you get up to over the years!

kap384 · Sep 3, 2018

e-tek said:
Very nice set up and good ideas! Want to see what you get up to over the years!

Thanks for looking.

CombatNinja · Sep 3, 2018

kap384,
Out of curiosity, did you need a variance to zoning to build a shop that big or was it allowed under your municipality's rules? Just curious. My area is pretty liberal with what they let you get away with but I have two constraints: the garage can't be bigger than the house and less than 50% of your lot can be covered with structures. I am good on the second part but that first part makes it so I can "only" add 775 square feet and I'm not sure if that will accomplish all I am looking to do.

buildingup · Sep 4, 2018

Looks real nice. What did you end up using to fill in saw cuts and hows it holding up?

kap384 · Sep 6, 2018

CombatNinja said:
kap384,
Out of curiosity, did you need a variance to zoning to build a shop that big or was it allowed under your municipality's rules? Just curious. My area is pretty liberal with what they let you get away with but I have two constraints: the garage can't be bigger than the house and less than 50% of your lot can be covered with structures. I am good on the second part but that first part makes it so I can "only" add 775 square feet and I'm not sure if that will accomplish all I am looking to do.

I negotiated with the city a bit to go a little closer to the back lane than specified in the code. It's why the back corner by the fridge is angled. I specifically went attached vs. detached as the code here only limits height, proximity to lot edges and total lot coverage less then 45%. Detached requires a variance to go beyond a fairly small square footage. I'm at 37% lot coverage at the moment.

kap384 · Sep 6, 2018

buildingup said:
Looks real nice. What did you end up using to fill in saw cuts and hows it holding up?

Thanks! I used sand mixed with the epoxy like product that the kit came with. The kit came from Legacy Industrial Inc.

FUTBOL626 · Sep 7, 2018

This place looks great, I'm excited to see all the cabinets mounted, I am kicking around similar storage ideas for my place.

kap384 · Sep 7, 2018

FUTBOL626 said:
This place looks great, I'm excited to see all the cabinets mounted, I am kicking around similar storage ideas for my place.

You're excited? I'm more excited! :beer:

kap384 · Sep 19, 2018

Exhaust fan installed and wiring run for under cabinet lighting!

These had to go in before cabinets and I'm told they should be installed this week!

kap384 · Sep 25, 2018

I thought I'd document a bit more of the house transformation that got me to this point since more time has been spent finishing out the house, delaying the garage until now.

As I mentioned in the first post, this was a very original 1964 bungalow.

Living room. (fake beams). Just one side of ceiling was vaulted.

Free wall artwork. A nature theme was prevalent.

Picture back towards the third main level bedroom where the load bearing wall used to be :shocking:

Lipstick reno'd, original floor plan, tiny kitchen

And decent size, but only other reno, main level bath

Ensuite with period green floor tiles.

The rumpus room in the basement. This area did have some 90's area white carpet, but the rest is pure awesome (Notice the photo-realistic mountain lake scene?)

More photo-realistic wallpaper at bottom of stairs

Old bar, mirrored wall and AstroTurf carpeting.

Controls for the various lighting including the black light dangling form the ceiling. Notice the awesome multi-colour patio lantern as well.

Son's blue bedroom as I imagine it was when he was a teenager (speakers still cut into dropped ceiling)

Now for the solid fir goodness.

Milk door and solid door out to carport

Awesome built-in desk with a sadly sectioned vintage 1977 poster that was lining a cupboard in the basement. Middle was cut right out of it:-(

Hard to show without a series of pictures or video but this was an ingenious pantry with the hinged shelf on the left opening up with more internal storage.

Next is the back yard and the surprises it held

kap384 · Sep 25, 2018

So as mentioned, the double, detached garage was connected to the house with a car port. In the space between the garage and the house, patio doors opened to the glassed in structure you see here. Should also note that I'm guessing the original owner was a gas fitter because this entire back yard was plumbed with natural gas.

Natural gas fire pit (with a broken beer bottle or two from the house party I had the night before)

Natural gas street lamp and patio doors leading to the car port. The table on the right is actually hinged to the wall. This was a party house!

Ingenious(?) heat distribution in garage. So the garage had its own furnace, but note the ducting. The rectangular ducting has vents to heat the garage itself, then continues to a 4" round duct exiting the garage above the man door in the back. At one time it warmed a greenhouse back there.

I had owned the place for a number of months at this point but was going through the permitting process. The kart is mine but everything else belongs to a friend.

Check out the hinged duct that can direct the furnace main output out the side door (when open) and into the glassed in patio space. Year round heated patio!

Next is what was built in its place.........

kap384 · Sep 25, 2018

Even though my plan was a full gut reno, putting in steel beams, furring out the walls for more 'R' value, shoring up the structure to support the second story, dealing with asbestos, etc. cost more than starting fresh.

So here is the new living room with with my pushed out stereo area (or as I called it on the blue prints, Critical Listening Area)

That's all Carver Sunfire equipment and speakers with A Project Debut Carbon turntable.

On the other side of the house is the open concept dining room

Separating the two is my front door, with the aforementioned mail slot, a cherry bench and coat rack(there is a shelf over it now). All cabinets and built-ins are cherry.

Beside the Critical Listening Area is the kitchen

Down the hall is the main level bath, door to back yard and 2 spare bedrooms. Behind the dining room are the stairs up to the 2nd level (which you can also see in the previous photo)

You can also see where the stairs descend to the garage door and then down to the basement. These stairs and the door are located in the exact same spot they were in the old house.

Cherry built-in for the mudroom

Upstairs is the laundry room, master bedroom, ensuite and master closet. The ensuite is the most impressive bit between my amazing tile guy and the best looking cherry veneer in the entire house.

Last but not least is the basement. Lets call this common area the rumpus room including wood burning fireplace, pool table/future dart board area, bar and home theatre.

Theatre is mostly Carver Sunfire speakers as well including primary amplification.

Last piece is the den, lots of bookshelves plus a Murphy bed

Thanks for looking

CombatNinja · Sep 25, 2018

Your house is awesome. I have to ask, are you married? It looks like every guy's dream house that a woman would never sign off on.

kap384 · Sep 25, 2018

CombatNinja said:
Your house is awesome. I have to ask, are you married? It looks like every guy's dream house that a woman would never sign off on.

Thanks! Single at the moment but looking for the right girl.

02blueru · Sep 25, 2018

CombatNinja said:
Your house is awesome. I have to ask, are you married? It looks like every guy's dream house that a woman would never sign off on.

I was thinking the same thing... Looks great though!!

kap384 · Sep 27, 2018

Tested the fan tonight. Wired in the variable switch I grabbed on Amazon, fired up my 2 stroke KTM and filled the garage with exhaust. Instantly had some strong '****' for lack of intake air so opened a door. Will open the side overhead in the future to evacuate either exhaust or hot air. Overall very impressed. Moved a bunch of air and reasonably quite. If only those cabinets would get installed.

1/2 Cup · Sep 27, 2018

kap384 just awesome. :thumbup:

wout · Sep 27, 2018

Wow, awesome transformation! Really like what you did with the basement!

gr
Wout

kap384 · Sep 27, 2018

1/2 Cup said:
kap384 just awesome.

wout said:
Wow, awesome transformation! Really like what you did with the basement!

gr
Wout

Thanks!!

Mike.ASC · Sep 27, 2018

That's some work you should be very proud of, well done sir!

iwantspeed · Sep 27, 2018

this garage is sick!

kap384 · Sep 27, 2018

Mike.ASC said:
That's some work you should be very proud of, well done sir!

iwantspeed said:
this garage is sick!

Thanks guys! I can't wait to get the cabinets up and get the garage organized.
They will represent most of the storage in the house so getting them installed will actually help empty out the last of the unpacked items that didn't have a home, helping me finish the last of the rooms.

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