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Tool to disassemble Williams Superratchet (S-52W)

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I have owned a few JH Williams superratchets and they have all been massive pains to take apart. Thanks for sharing this OP!
 
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Interesting. I've never seen one before. If it's factory, it looks like they took the frame of a 420 face spanner and either modified or used a different half of a die to forge the pins square instead of round. Everything else is forged like a 420 face spanner. Does not appear in any catalogs up through 1948.

I am trying to figure out how that would work. :headscrat

EDIT: Disregard. I was reading the "S-52W" as a one-up part number from the S-51. This is for the later Superratchet, the round head S-52, hence the S-52W, for Wrench. I don't collect those and was automatically thinking the older Superratchets.
 
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I posted this abused flea market find Superratchet on the Williams thread. I had to disassemble it repeatedly to repair damage from Bubba using it as a hammer. It would have been handy to have that special spanner. It would only work on my earlier ratchet as they changed my newer one. I ended up carefully using a pin punch.
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Darn. I passed up several of these in the past and have been wanting to find one since. That sold from my old area too!

I do have the wrench that came with a 3/4 dr. parts kit.
 
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Private Lugnutz said:
Interesting. I've never seen one before. If it's factory, it looks like they took the frame of a 420 face spanner and either modified or used a different half of a die to forge the pins square instead of round. Everything else is forged like a 420 face spanner. Does not appear in any catalogs up through 1948.

I am trying to figure out how that would work. :headscrat

EDIT: Disregard. I was reading the "S-52W" as a one-up part number from the S-51. This is for the later Superratchet, the round head S-52, hence the S-52W, for Wrench. I don't collect those and was automatically thinking the older Superratchets.
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I have a catalog from the 70s that shows these in it. (That catalog got lost when I moved but it is around here somewhere.) I used that to set up ebay alerts. As you stated, it appears that they used a standard spanner and machined down the pins to be the needed size.

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Darn. I passed up several of these in the past and have been wanting to find one since. That sold from my old area too!

I do have the wrench that came with a 3/4 dr. parts kit.
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I have a full set that I picked up a few years back. Just set up an ebay alert and in a year or two some will come on the market. Considering I moved over five years ago and I know I set up the alert before I moved, I think I have seen these show up maybe three times. So the rates is probably once every two years. It is just a waiting game.

I'm in my 40s so you probably have a while to wait for my estate sale.
 
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The enterprising collector with an S-52 Superratchet in need of some repair or lubrication who doesn't want to wait for Joe B. to kick the bucket could easily follow Williams' own factory construction lead and manufacture an S-52W for himself from a 420 face spanner wrench. EDIT: In fact, any 420 face spanner (7/32" diameter pins, 1-1/4" C to C) would do. It doesn't have to be a Williams. Here is a Fairmount I own, for example, almost certainly made by Williams for Fairmount, purchased at a flea market for $1, just waiting for a little grinding and/or file work to turn those round pins into the right size square pins, aided by Joe B.'s helpful photos above. :)
 

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Not to belabor an old thread, but what was the model for the B-52 ratchet? Was is based on a 418 face spanner?

Bill
 
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Make your own spanner ring remover out of an old socket whose outside diameter just matches the ring. Dremel/grind away enough material to leave 4 pegs to interface with the grooves in the ring. I've done this before to remove bicycle parts. A bit of work but does the job.

And no waiting for someone to die. :lol_hitti
 
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bonneyman said:
Make your own spanner ring remover out of an old socket whose outside diameter just matches the ring. Dremel/grind away enough material to leave 4 pegs to interface with the grooves in the ring. I've done this before to remove bicycle parts. A bit of work but does the job.

And no waiting for someone to die. :lol_hitti
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I agree. So satisfying to figure out how to make a tool to solve a tool problem.
 
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