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HF Icon box prices are out

stev0n

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And they're not cheap...

36" - $2700
https://www.harborfreight.com/36-in-x-25-in-professional-roller-cabinet-green-56272.html
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56" - $4,000
https://www.harborfreight.com/56-in-x-25-in-professional-roller-cabinet-green-56277.html
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73" - $5,000
https://www.harborfreight.com/73-in-x-25-in-professional-roller-cabinet-green-56297.html
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End locker - $2,000
https://www.harborfreight.com/28-in-professional-end-locker-green-56322.html
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im not sure anyone will spend that much on these. 1000 less overall would make a whole lot more sense
 

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My krl1022 has the same storage capacity as their triple bank and I only paid $1500 for that brand new after trading in my old 40" combo.
 

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Yeah, but what's the "real" price going to be? No one's going to buy them at those prices; they'll wait for the sales and coupons.
 

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I was hoping for a KRSC46 knock off cart. :wtf: :lol:

They're nice looking boxes but, i don't think they'll sell as well as their regular US General boxes. That's quite the sticker shock even if it is worth it. :dunno:
 

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I paid less for my KRL1022 after I traded in my Civic, sold me baseball cards, and refi'd my dog!
 

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For that price I'll stick to negotiating to my SO dealer and have something that has some resale for my grandkids when I croak. Sorry, but all HF's "hype" dosn't make up for the old traditional brands R&D and making boxes that were easy to use....

Harbor Fright? That kinda money??!!?? Are they outta their mind?
 

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https://images.harborfreight.com/media/brand/icon/ICON-Catalog-Locations.pdf

"Adjustable force drawer latches". See pic above. Looks like detents.

It'll be interesting to see what, if any coupons are offered. Those prices are way too close to the truck brands.

Adjustable detents is good. 18 gauge inner panel is a disappointment. I was hoping for 16 gauge to match the thickness of their outer panel. 14 gauge bottom panel is good. Lastly, they're showing a non-ratcheting combination wrench with a smooth open end. It would have been nice if they stuck with that original plan instead of going with the Carlyle copy.
 

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The 56" was announced at $2500 at SEMA last year.

Tariffs, wishful thinking, or common coupon price TBA. Take your pick but at those introductory prices they wont be moving any that's for sure.

Almost assuredly nicer than an Extreme or Montezuma but double the price nicer? Lots o'luck.
 
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The 56" was announced at $2500 at SEMA last year.

Tariffs, wishful thinking, or common coupon price TBA. Take your pick but at those introductory prices they wont be moving any that's for sure.

Almost assuredly nicer than an Extreme or Montezuma but double the price nicer? Lots o'luck.

Your use of the word assuredly is what i was thinking, Seems they shipped over the heaviest Mac Macsimizer box with the adjustable detents they could find and a Snap-on KRL and told the guys in China to combine the two and make the heaviest, nicest looking 24 to 25" deep box you can

Seems like a decent, heavy duty tool box but adding 1.35 exchange rate + duty for Canadians, these Icon boxes are pricey if not expensive as in the same price as the tool trucks
 
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I have 4 US General boxes, so I'm no HF hater, but I wouldn't even consider these boxes when used truck brands can be had for the same money or less.
 

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Those prices are brutal, insane, outrageous, and insulting!

I think Eric Smidt wants a new boat, helicopter, and some more houses. Maybe even a new corporate head quarters.

I mean his old boat was only 150 million and pretty nice:

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House is pretty nice too:

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/eric-l-smidts-house-3/view/google/

Maybe he wants to buy a bigger one? Or buy out Sears from his buddy? Or buy out SnapOn? Maybe thats his ultimate goal?
 

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Those prices are brutal, insane, outrageous, and insulting!

I think Eric Smidt wants a new boat, helicopter, and some more houses. Maybe even a new corporate head quarters.

I mean his old boat was only 150 million and pretty nice:

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House is pretty nice too:

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/eric-l-smidts-house-3/view/google/

Maybe he wants to buy a bigger one? Or buy out Sears from his buddy? Or buy out SnapOn? Maybe thats his ultimate goal?

Good for him



At these prices there are more attractive options to me, plus we are hitting Snap On price territory. It will be interesting to see sale prices, if any.

And since they are getting into the credit business this is where the interest is shunted to make “0% interest” a possibility
 

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Lastly, they're showing a non-ratcheting combination wrench with a smooth open end. It would have been nice if they stuck with that original plan instead of going with the Carlyle copy.

I believe ICON will be offering both versions just like Carlyle does. Time will tell.

Back to the boxes, aside from the initial sticker shock, there's also the issue of resale value. There are lots of pages on the journal complaining that used truck brand boxes are too expensive but, i'm not sure if the new ICON boxes would retain any value :dunno:
I'm also surprised that ICON only offers a stainless top for the 36 inch cart. no top box or hutch :wtf: There are many shops that lack the space for a toolbox wall.
 
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The 56" was announced at $2500 at SEMA last year.

Tariffs, wishful thinking, or common coupon price TBA. Take your pick but at those introductory prices they wont be moving any that's for sure.

Almost assuredly nicer than an Extreme or Montezuma but double the price nicer? Lots o'luck.



Yeah we have an Extreme as our shop box that a few guys use its 5 years old and takes a beating by all the people in and out of it and it still performs perfectly. I could not see spending the extra money for those Icon boxes or even truck brand boxes. I look at the savings as insurance in case someone royal screws up and hits the box with fork lift or something else I can buy a new one and still only be in for the same money or less.
 

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When I do venture into HF and look at the customer base locally, I see none of them buying one unless it was bought with a HF credit card.

The guys and girls here are a different breed but I see very few members here buying one. Not when you can buy several of the 44" boxes @ the cost of a smaller 36" Icon box
 
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They use the same manufacturer for the slides as Waterloo Industries/SBD/Craftsman/DeWalt uses. Just figured I'd point that out.
 

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Looks like there are also hutches for the 56" boxes at $1300 and 73" top boxes for $2700

Should be interesting to see how these go.
 

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I want nothing to do these HF boxes. When the day comes that HF is willing to send someone to my job once a week to demand money and structure loans using the stuff I already paid for as collateral - THEN we'll talk. Besides I got my snap on box for less then that after I traded in my other snap on box that I overpaid for.
 

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Definitely sticker shock for the average HF customer, but I'd hold out judgment until all the specs are compared. The pricing on these Icon boxes isn't much below the SO Classic series boxes, but they line up more with with a Masters or Epiq series in terms of specs (assuming HF's specs are accurate).

For instance, comparing the 73" Icon box, they advertise it with an 8,000 lb capacity, 265 lb drawer slides, and 33,874 cu in of volume. The SO Classic 73" lists at $7000 but only has a 2,400 lb load capacity, 120 lb drawer slides, and 31,237 cu in of volume. Even the US General box has more load capacity than the SO Classic, and it's only $1,200.

If you go up to the SO Masters KTL7023 the price jumps to $11,780, but the specs are a lot closer to the Icon, with 6,800 lb load capacity, 227 lb slides, and 38,916 cu in of volume. So you're still talking about the Icon box with nearly identical specs being less than half the price.

Ultimately I think HF's downfall on these Icon boxes will be a very limited clientele. You can already see from the reactions in this thread that your average HF customer will think this is overpriced, even if its not for what you get. There's quite a niche customer that will pay $5,000+ for a tool box to begin with, and most of them are tool snobbish enough that they would rather buy an inferior SO Classic just for the name and reputation. So out of that small niche group only a small percentage will even set foot in HF.

Then on top of that, HF has the disadvantage of people needing to have $5,000 cash (or credit card) versus the tool truck extending credit, and taking your mom's boyfriend's uncle's Craftsman box as trade-in with a value of more than it was worth new. Which again, isn't conducive to the customer base they have. If some SO fanboy who uses his toolbox for a living can't afford to pay cash for a toolbox, then it's doubtful that the guy down the street coming in for a $5 Pittsburgh ratchet is going to be able to afford it either.

Lastly, as some others touched on, you have resale value and just general perception of the brand. Even though the specs are more impressive than a lot of SO boxes, the general perception is still that HF is cheap junk. Maybe eventually the Icon name becomes more household and the resale values stay reasonable, but if the Icon brand is a flop and very few of the boxes are sold, the resale value will be almost nothing. Meanwhile SO's resale value is buoyed not only by long lasting quality, but an almost collect-ability or cult following.
 

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But, but,but but.... what's happened? I used to be able to go to h.f. and buy snap on quality at .03 cents on the dollar.. h.f. is ripping people off with these toolboxes... it's all markup and profit.... must be following the Snapon market plan. Greedy son of guns....

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Hey fellas... This thread is fine I guess... But I'm tired of moderating threads about HF. If you don't have anything of value to say... don't. Please.

Thanks.
 

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Definitely sticker shock for the average HF customer, but I'd hold out judgment until all the specs are compared. The pricing on these Icon boxes isn't much below the SO Classic series boxes, but they line up more with with a Masters or Epiq series in terms of specs (assuming HF's specs are accurate).

For instance, comparing the 73" Icon box, they advertise it with an 8,000 lb capacity, 265 lb drawer slides, and 33,874 cu in of volume. The SO Classic 73" lists at $7000 but only has a 2,400 lb load capacity, 120 lb drawer slides, and 31,237 cu in of volume. Even the US General box has more load capacity than the SO Classic, and it's only $1,200.

If you go up to the SO Masters KTL7023 the price jumps to $11,780, but the specs are a lot closer to the Icon, with 6,800 lb load capacity, 227 lb slides, and 38,916 cu in of volume. So you're still talking about the Icon box with nearly identical specs being less than half the price.

Ultimately I think HF's downfall on these Icon boxes will be a very limited clientele. You can already see from the reactions in this thread that your average HF customer will think this is overpriced, even if its not for what you get. There's quite a niche customer that will pay $5,000+ for a tool box to begin with, and most of them are tool snobbish enough that they would rather buy an inferior SO Classic just for the name and reputation. So out of that small niche group only a small percentage will even set foot in HF.

Then on top of that, HF has the disadvantage of people needing to have $5,000 cash (or credit card) versus the tool truck extending credit, and taking your mom's boyfriend's uncle's Craftsman box as trade-in with a value of more than it was worth new. Which again, isn't conducive to the customer base they have. If some SO fanboy who uses his toolbox for a living can't afford to pay cash for a toolbox, then it's doubtful that the guy down the street coming in for a $5 Pittsburgh ratchet is going to be able to afford it either.

Lastly, as some others touched on, you have resale value and just general perception of the brand. Even though the specs are more impressive than a lot of SO boxes, the general perception is still that HF is cheap junk. Maybe eventually the Icon name becomes more household and the resale values stay reasonable, but if the Icon brand is a flop and very few of the boxes are sold, the resale value will be almost nothing. Meanwhile SO's resale value is buoyed not only by long lasting quality, but an almost collect-ability or cult following.

Also you never pay the Retail price for a Snap-On there is always some kind of discount. when I bought my KRL,Hutch, side box I paid less then half list price for it and got a Free bedliner top, and premium Red expandable cover. Plus he threw in some shirts, hoodie for me and the wife and a shirt for my grandson. My box is also deeper than the Harbor freight.

That being said the ICON box looks nice has a warranty (as long as the keep making that brand) if the do end up doing a low or 0% finance like they talk they will do fine.

I bought my Snap-On box after 25 years as a diesel mechanic because I wanted a new box in a color I liked (storm grey) so I have a nice box for working from home (I am now a Tech trainer for our company) I do side work on cars and heavy equipment. I had owned a Macimiser for 20 years.
 

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Some guys say a box is just to hold tools and don't make money so buy cheap. its good advice. But my opinion is if you work as a Tech you spend half of your life at work buy something you enjoy whatever it is.
 

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Hey fellas... This thread is fine I guess... But I'm tired of moderating threads about HF. If you don't have anything of value to say... don't. Please.



Thanks.
I'm sorry!! I'm bad, I know it. You have to admit the irony is quite comical.. h.f comes out with a "quality " box and low and behold its expensive.... who would have thought. I'm done. Have a great day.

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Also you never pay the Retail price for a Snap-On there is always some kind of discount. when I bought my KRL,Hutch, side box I paid less then half list price for it and got a Free bedliner top, and premium Red expandable cover. Plus he threw in some shirts, hoodie for me and the wife and a shirt for my grandson. My box is also deeper than the Harbor freight.


How do I, a home-jobber DIY type, get discounts and free swag from Snap-On? Last I checked the local Snap-On driver doesn't have my house on his route.
 

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How do I, a home-jobber DIY type, get discounts and free swag from Snap-On? Last I checked the local Snap-On driver doesn't have my house on his route.

My brother-in-law was a electrician at the steel mill(retired). He works on his cars and has 2 hobby cars (a Jag and a 74 vette) for about 10 years a Snap-on truck stopped once a month at his house. If they are going to make money and its on their route they might stop. The "free stuff" is up to the driver. A friend of mine has a different Snap On guy and he doesn't do swag at all.

Snap On is not for everyone. buy what you like and enjoy it I have a lot of Harbor Freight tool also.
 

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They look like decent boxes for the money. Direct shipping, Life Time Warranty Parts replacement and coming soon 0% interest. Bet there will be special buys and discounts to come.

Not Made in America?....So they're imported, nothing new there. Everybody has some imported stuff. Tool boxes, tools, cars, furniture, clothing and so-on.
 

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Wow, 24"/25" deep, not 30"?!

I would say "disappointing" but I wasn't really in the market for these boxes, anyhow.
 

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I think success with those will be very location specific. Here in Phoenix that's truck box money all day long everyday.

Zero interest credit (if they do that) would be a huge driver. Plus free delivery. Wonder how free and easy they'll be giving credit out? If they're really loose with it they will be selling that credit to collections for pennies on the dollar starting in about 3 years. And the boxes will be long gone on Craigslist for who knows how much

does anyone really believe the lifetime warranty? I sure don't. Not bashing them but let's get real, they don't make the boxes, they just don't have that much control of the warranty.
 

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Has anyone ever seen numbers of how many boxes hf sells? Where an employee gave up some data from their store or region?
 

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I wonder if they plan on getting into the student discount business?

I believe they already participate in a student discount program.

Scratch that.. I guess I was thinking about there charitable school donations, I see no mention of student discount programs.
 
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There must be some forthcoming business model they have planned. I looked up their store count and I was surprised too see there was only 1000. Between the icon tool line cost and these I can’t see how any demographic study would have ever lead them to think they had a chance in hell of competing with the major players in this sport.
 
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