NEW build 36 x 50 garage (hot rod shop)

fordsteel · Sep 12, 2009

****Updates Weekly stay tuned****
Started work on my 36 x 50 barn to be used as a garage. The barn will have 12 foot ceilings on the main level. and a second floor that is 30x50 with a full dormer off the back the 2nd level will have 9 foot ceilings. the floor will be a 5 inch thick slab with radiant heat ran through it. Off the front of the barn will be a 12 foot lean too to be used as a front porch and a place for the grill.

Build in progress

the site

the Amish are building my barn.
here they are squaring things up

Footing and foundation are in 6 courses of block, 5 in ground one above

check back next week for the progress

Jasondt2001 · Sep 13, 2009

I can't wait for next week!!

How tall total is the place going to be, or did I miss that?

I'm thinking 12' feet downstairs and 9' tall upstairs would be a total of 21 'livable' but, with gables or pitch where does that put you???

Again, can't wait for next week!!

Kevin54 · Sep 13, 2009

Looking good :thumbup:

Did the Amish drive to 'hoe? All of the Amish around here will have drivers to get to the place they are working, but won't hesitate to jump on a piece of equipment :lol_hitti

We had one in our area that went as far as buying all of his own equipment, trucks, 'hoes, skidloaders, etc. The Amish sect finally kicked him to the curb. As soon as they did, you'd see him driving down the road in a brand new 1 ton dually :spit:

. Then his wife started doing income tax returns and one of the boys started selling cars (small car lot) at the house.

...doc... · Sep 13, 2009

so,...what are you putting IN the hot rod shop?

fordsteel · Sep 13, 2009

Jason.. the roof pitch is going to be 10/12 I like a steep pitch for that old barn look.

Doc.... the garage will house my 34 ford pickup (my profile pic), my 30 ford roadster on deuce rails, my 60 falcon 2 door gasser, and my bonneville belly tank build im starting powered by a full race flathead model A 4-banger
and my 67 triumph bobber

shop will also house my tools too, stuff like my... Bridgeport mill, metal lathe, Tig & MIG welders, tubing bender, drill press, gantry, power hammer and much more... wood working shop and storage upstairs via a 4 foot wide staircase

fordsteel · Sep 14, 2009

Well early update.....
We found a dry well in my back yard :shocking:

and well we found it the hard way....may have totaled a new truck

here is the aftermath

I think the frame is bent

**Stay tuned**

Kevin54 · Sep 14, 2009

fordsteel said:
Well early update.....
We found a dry well in my back yard
and well we found it the hard way....may have totaled a new truck

here is the aftermath

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I think the frame is bent

**Stay tuned**

Most definitely looks like it ruined that frame :shocking:

Looks like this that happened the other day

Hopefully they have enough insurance to cover accidents like that. Although it is going to be expensive, the cab is good, bed is still good and all the hydraulics will probably be good as the bed was in a lowered position, the components could be put on another frame. Not everyday you have to total out a dumptruck

create · Sep 14, 2009

now that is crazy. What did it look like after you got it out? I wonder if they can bend the frame back without totalling the truck, if it its pretty hard to do on equipment/trucks like that.

Jasondt2001 · Sep 14, 2009

thanks for the update!

I'm SO sorry to hear about that - I can only imagine the stress it caused you (and the owner)!

Tylerb43 · Sep 15, 2009

I'd be very surprised if that's totalled. Those frames are designed to twist to a certain extent. If it twisted enough to kink one of the rails that's another story. Just doesn't look that bad, but let us know, that's pretty nuts!

And good luck with the build - it looks awesome to far!

twostory · Sep 15, 2009

What is a "dry well" ?

and what causes them?

cyclopsblown34 · Sep 15, 2009

I'm subscribed to the thread. Sounds like a good plan is in place.

create · Sep 15, 2009

It is for drainage. Basically a smaller dry well could be a huge hole in the ground, back filled with different things such as gravel/corse rocks/anything, and then dirt/sod on top.

You pipe drainage from your home/buildings to it. It keeps it from backing up in the yard and making a swamp.

Tough enough to walk on or use as part of your yard. But when you put something heavy on it, this occurs.

twostory said:
What is a "dry well" ?

and what causes them?

PA Z06 · Sep 16, 2009

wow tuff break

autoist · Sep 16, 2009

Would that be covered under your homeowner's insurance?

fordsteel · Sep 20, 2009

Busy weekend my dad and I laid all the under-slab insulation (The Barrier) which is 3 mil plastic then polly-foam insulation and then another 3 mil of plastic. there is a plastic flap on one side with self stick adhesive to bond it to the next row, this is a great vapor barrier. the insulation and reinforcing mesh took us 3 hours to put down. the 7 loops (250 ft length each) on the other hand took us 7 hours to complete.

I welded up a stand out of angle iron to hold my manifolds in place.
the whole system was pressure checked at 60psi over night and hasent lost a pound, so it looks like we are good to poor the slab (monday or tuesday)

good news the truck that fell in the dry well is ok. needed new hood laches they broke from the twisting and one hydraulic line got punctured.

the dry well took about 14 cu yards of gravel to fill it was about 10ft deep.

my next door neighbor is not very happy with me. Because i did not want to knock down my existing 16x24 garage to build a driveway to my new garage
instead i pulled out the shrubs alongside my garage and his yard and built myself a new driveway. I love PA only 12 ft offset on outbuildings and you can build right on your property line if you get a variance in my town. (some of my new driveway might even be on my neighbors yard) if hes still upset when its done he will just have to get his yard surveyed lol

suzukiwarrior · Sep 20, 2009

looks good what part of pa do you live???

fordsteel · Sep 20, 2009

Im all the way north 5 min from the NY border and just about center from east to west
if that makes sense
or I can just say im about 20 min below corning NY

Bull · Sep 20, 2009

I'm excited to see some Amish craftsmanship!

Aren't you concerned about that driveway issue, though? If your neighbor DOES get a survey later and you are on his side, your new driveway might be in jeopardy.

fordsteel · Sep 20, 2009

not to concerned with the driveway issue. If it is overstepping my line I'll fix it there is one survey pole but no second one to make a line so i guessed if its over it wont be more then 6 or 8 inches max. I think his wife had an issue.. because today he said everything was looking good.

NUTTSGT · Sep 20, 2009

Looks good, I suppose this winter will used to get the shop in order and moving everything in, painted and wired.

fordsteel · Sep 26, 2009

Floor is pored and the sticks for the first floor are up. ***Stay Tuned***

bluesman2a · Sep 26, 2009

Looks good, I wish we had Amish here to hire when I was doing mine...

I gotta ask, what's with the raised sections here? Support pole placments?

Justanoldguy · Sep 27, 2009

fordsteel said:
Jason.. the roof pitch is going to be 10/12 I like a steep pitch for that old barn look.

Can someone explain the pitch numbers.
Here in NZ we just use degrees for roof pitch. eg 45 degrees or 33 degrees. etc...

.

Justanoldguy · Sep 27, 2009

fordsteel said:
Floor is pored and the sticks for the first floor are up. ***Stay Tuned***

Do you just leave the steel lying on the ground or do they lift it as they go?
Waste of time & money if it stays on the ground.

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2drx4 · Sep 27, 2009

Justanoldguy said:
Can someone explain the pitch numbers.
Here in NZ we just use degrees for roof pitch. eg 45 degrees or 33 degrees. etc...

.

It's rise/run, stated over 12 typically; as there is 12 inches in a foot. So, 10/12 is a 10" rise over a 12" (1') run. That's a hair under 40*.

Justanoldguy · Sep 27, 2009

2drx4 said:
It's rise/run, stated over 12 typically; as there is 12 inches in a foot. So, 10/12 is a 10" rise over a 12" (1') run. That's a hair under 40*.

Cheers for that. Makes total sense now.
Been a builder here in NZ for 42 years and never heard it like that...

Kevin54 · Sep 27, 2009

Justanoldguy said:
Can someone explain the pitch numbers.
Here in NZ we just use degrees for roof pitch. eg 45 degrees or 33 degrees. etc...

.

Take a look at the sketch

fordsteel · Sep 27, 2009

The raised pads are where the pillars are for the (4) 8x8 posts that will support the 8x10 beam running down the center of the building.

the wire mesh and tubing where lifted up during the pore about 2"

by next weekends update the center beam will be up
the 2x12 for the floor joists will be up
the sub floor will be laid
the full dormer in the rear will be framed
and the rafters will be up

monstergarage87 · Sep 28, 2009

Guess we're not wiring this weekend.. huh? =)

fordsteel · Oct 2, 2009

8x10 rough cut beams supported by 8x8 rough cut poles

2x12 floor joists 16" OC

21/32 Advantek 50 year warranty sub-floor

fordsteel · Oct 2, 2009

Rear dormer

here is the end result for this weeks work

***stay tuned for next week*****

walrus · Oct 2, 2009

Thats going to be quite the shop when you get'r' done.

Grashopr · Oct 2, 2009

Holy Cow that's huge.

yellow2000S/R · Oct 2, 2009

Those amish know whats up.

Justanoldguy · Oct 3, 2009

Yep.

That is one very nice build.

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russlaferrera · Oct 3, 2009

That is some build. Big enough? I say yes.

Metal-Marc · Oct 3, 2009

Grashopr said:
Holy Cow that's huge.

A shop is never big enough :thumbup:

jmh21586 · Oct 3, 2009

Do the Amish use hand tools or will they use power tools??

Justanoldguy · Oct 3, 2009

russlaferrera said:
That is some build. Big enough? I say yes.

They can NEVER be big enough.
Mine is 40 x 80 and full.

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