robertearl
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After all of the hype and discussion on the new ICON tool boxes, has anyone
bought one of them? If so, what do you think of it.
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bought one of them? If so, what do you think of it.
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Has anyone bought one of the ICON tool boxes
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Chromdome35
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I have yet to see anyone on here or Youtube post a video showing their new ICON box, that they actually bought. (Not talking about video's from guys like ToolDen who probably had it given to him by HF)
Neither of my local stores has ICON boxes on the floor. It's awfully hard to sell an expensive premium item without letting people put their hands on it first.
I wonder how many they've actually sold.
Neither of my local stores has ICON boxes on the floor. It's awfully hard to sell an expensive premium item without letting people put their hands on it first.
I wonder how many they've actually sold.
kythri
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Here's where you can find the boxes:
https://images.harborfreight.com/media/brand/icon/ICON Store Locations.pdf
Not every store (far from it) will be having them on display.
Addtitionally, it bears repeating, that you likely won't find many people purchasing these cash-only (much like few, if any, people purchase a new, comparable box off the truck for cash), and that the credit offering HF is releasing isn't slated to come out until January 2020.
https://images.harborfreight.com/media/brand/icon/ICON Store Locations.pdf
Not every store (far from it) will be having them on display.
Addtitionally, it bears repeating, that you likely won't find many people purchasing these cash-only (much like few, if any, people purchase a new, comparable box off the truck for cash), and that the credit offering HF is releasing isn't slated to come out until January 2020.
kngelv
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I picked up some stuff Friday at my local HF that carries the Icon boxes. Store manager said they have not sold one yet? Looked at them very closely again. Yes they are nicer than the U.S. General. But the prices are just crazy. The 56" with the 20% Icon coupon is $3199.00. You could buy four of the 56" U.S. General and one 44" for that price.
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oilslick
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I think 50% off coupons are coming, or they don't sell more than a handful.
RedneckWelder
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They are going to have to do some work on prices
I have yet to hear of an actual purchase yet. Plenty of YouTubers who got free ones but that’s it
I have yet to hear of an actual purchase yet. Plenty of YouTubers who got free ones but that’s it
taumac
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Most of the HF by me have them on display. The hutch and side locker definitely real nice but still comes down to price.
Hard to sell “tool truck quality” boxes with Taiwan made, home owner grade tools. You can get a decent quality box from Napa for 1/2 that price.. if not more than that.
I always liked my Craftsman boxes. They do the job they were intended for.
I always liked my Craftsman boxes. They do the job they were intended for.
The Fall
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US General all day long. From there, I'd go with a legit box from Proto or used tool truck.
Someone posted a very helpful link to HF's replacement parts for US General boxes. Another reason to pass on Icon.
Someone posted a very helpful link to HF's replacement parts for US General boxes. Another reason to pass on Icon.
The Fall
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I gotta say, all of my boxes I've purchased have been the Heavy-Duty CMan boxes assembled in MO by Waterloo. They're good for what they are. They get a bad rap around these parts. I'd buy them again.
The US General cart I have was given to me. It's also really nice.
The US General cart I have was given to me. It's also really nice.
yellow wagon
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I’ve had severe Craftsman boxes and recently a KRL722 Snappy box I bought used. There is no comparison between the Craftsman stuff and the Snappy. My Craftsman wouldn’t even roll once fully loaded.
That said, the ICON boxes look nice in person. But at the prices they are asking, they are way high. Snap-on boxes carry huge resale value. So if you decide to sell and upgrade or whatever, you’ll get a lot of your money back. No way the ICON will carry that same resale value. So honestly a used Snappy box would be a better investment.
That said, the ICON boxes look nice in person. But at the prices they are asking, they are way high. Snap-on boxes carry huge resale value. So if you decide to sell and upgrade or whatever, you’ll get a lot of your money back. No way the ICON will carry that same resale value. So honestly a used Snappy box would be a better investment.
They're not gonna sell at these prices, even with 20% discount. There's too many used tool truck brand boxes out there. There's a mint 68" Epic near me, asking $4k. I'd buy that in a heartbeat over an Icon. Icon are decent boxes but priced waaaay too high IMO.
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kythri
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Seriously?!
Once the credit plan is established, these will sell just fine.
The target market for these boxes are not people who have $4K sitting around to buy a used truck box.
Haters gonna hate.
Once the credit plan is established, these will sell just fine.
The target market for these boxes are not people who have $4K sitting around to buy a used truck box.
Haters gonna hate.
WittHay
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Seen this picture of Icon boxes on display at SEMA. Thought they would make good tool carts in a independent HD truck or equipment shop. Should be affordable enough for shop owners without financing. Will have to see if one shows up in a tool box tour video
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Why would you go to harbor freight to finance when there are plenty tool truck drivers that will do the same and come to you. I can buy used snap-on boxes for less than an icon with 20% discount. If we start talking Matco I can get one for half what the icon cost with 20% coupon. Their target audience does not scream good credit at least in my area.
kythri
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Well, Snap-on, for one, won't finance you a tool box unless you work in a "qualified industry" and have a driver that comes to your store. You can't just go online, fill out financing documents, and have a box delivered to you.
There's also a bunch of folks who work in a qualifying industry, but for whatever reason, don't have a truck that services them.
So, perhaps, those multitudes of people that fit that description?
Most of the tool trucks target market doesn't scream "good credit risk" in any area. The trucks extend credit, because it's a captive market (they're coming to your work place weekly to hound you for cash).
That's not to insinuate these are bad people, but much of the truck target market are new techs with no credit history, no job history and no savings.
This appears to be a section of the market that HF is going after with Icon financing, and expanding that market to those who the trucks won't bother with, because they don't work somewhere the truck deigns to visit.
And, if you can buy a used box with cash, congratulations. You're not the target market of someone who needs to finance a box.
So, perhaps, if you can afford to buy a box cash, go do so, and stop crapping in Icon threads? Just a suggestion.
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59 wagon man
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there are on display down here in Hollywood fla and look impressive. I think I also saw 36 month free financing
I'm pretty sure justin sturgill has got a big order in on icon boxes ... lol
My opinion from beginning has always been too high a price, needs 25-30% off and free drawer config options at ordering time .
No way I pump 3 to 5K on them but I happily spend that money on used matco mac and snapon as if make effort it best value and quality you can get plus you have minimal to zero box value loss .
Is a market for it but not much of one at current pricing ...
My opinion from beginning has always been too high a price, needs 25-30% off and free drawer config options at ordering time .
No way I pump 3 to 5K on them but I happily spend that money on used matco mac and snapon as if make effort it best value and quality you can get plus you have minimal to zero box value loss .
Is a market for it but not much of one at current pricing ...
kythri
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And there's the clincher. Snap-on Credit (the financing arm, not truck credit) is NOT interest free.
Bigblue&Goldie
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So anyone plan on buying an ICON box when they introduce their 0% financing?
So what happens when these boxes are defaulted on?
Once they sign the dotted line is the box theirs and bad credit will hound them on it until paid off, racking up interest after the 36 months or whatever?
I'm asking from the perspective of buying one used, what due diligence would the buyer need to do?
Once they sign the dotted line is the box theirs and bad credit will hound them on it until paid off, racking up interest after the 36 months or whatever?
I'm asking from the perspective of buying one used, what due diligence would the buyer need to do?
This looks like a great little box. I'd still have a hard time justifying the $2,160 price (20% coupon) when I can get something like this for less than half the price.
Edit: The HF box is 440 lbs and the Sunex is 225 lbs. It's not a fair comparison, but it's a likely comparison.
If they don't sell we could see some 50% coupons/blowout prices down the road.
https://sunextools.com/product-category/tool-storage/pin-up-series-tool-storage/
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Jambo1981
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I love the colour of that Betty Sunex box.
You don’t have to be at a shop for a tool truck driver to take care of you. They are businessmen and everyone I have dealt with will bend over backwards to work with you. I have never worked in a shop that is serviced by a truck but I can call my snap-on guy or Mac guy any time and he will arrange to meet me. When I bought a used box from him he dropped it off at the house. I’m not saying there is not a market for icon I’m just saying like a lot of others that there are better options out there for the same $$$$
Farmall450
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Agreed.
bobcatdan
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Maybe Sears was a little ahead of the curve, but almost 10 years ago they tried the big tool truck equivalent tool boxes. Anybody else remember the yellow submarine in the tool box area? They flopped. Anybody who is going to spend that much money is buying a tool truck box. Everybody else isn't going to spend that much. The big mistake with the Icon boxes is they are 24" deep. You can buy other 24" and 30" boxes cheaper elsewhere. I'm sure some will fall into the trap that if it's at HF, it had to be the lowest price around.
Yes, seriously! lol
There target market? How many HF shoppers have $4k-$8k just lying around to buy an Icon box? Maybe when and if (has financing even been announced?) HF offers 0% financing that will change the game but as of right now it is what it is.
I'm hardly a HF hater. I think their USG boxes are a great value, I'm just not sold on the new Icon brand.
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Not sure if they really care about selling the boxes. I think flagship products are generally not created to be sold in high quantities but rather to be a talking point and to give the brand some prestige. If you see a big expensive box in a store or on the internet the average shopper may assume that ICON is therefore a professorial/premium brand so happily purchase some of the cheaper products assuming they are also professorial/premium by association.
Well said, much like a flagship car, more to get customers into the showroom to purchase mainstream models rather than to be a volume seller on it's own.
kythri
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Probably slightly less as many truck-brand box shoppers have $4K-$8K just laying around to buy a truck-brand box - hence why I say that these people are not the target market.
On a pure cash transaction, all things being what they are today, buying Icon over comparable storage does not seem to be a great spend. I don't believe anyone has disputed this, yet it keeps getting argued as if there's some great wisdom being disbursed by doing so.
When contemplating a pure cash transaction, there's a lot of other options. No ****, Sherlocks.
It has been, from the get-go, announced that the 0% financing would be available in January 2020. But you all know that, and are choosing to ignore it.
Then why do people keep thread-shitting all over Icon posts?
The same old refrain "if I had piles of cash, I'd never buy Icon, herp derp derp!" and the willful ignorance of what HF has, from the start of the Icon marketing, said is going to be coming (i.e. financing, 36-month 0% terms, etc.) is getting woefully old.
I've only fondled them in store, but I agree with others that they are hard to justify at the price. They are nice, but don't feel 7x the cost nice compared to the U.S. General boxes. For anyone who isn't moving their toolbox on a regular basis (i.e. professional Mechanics), the U.S. General is pretty much everything you would want.
Besides financing, Snapon/Mac, etc. offer brand cachet and resale value that HF can't touch.
It's a bit like Kia trying to sell an $80,000 luxury sedan. They may be pretty nice, but anybody looking to spend that much on a luxury sedan is probably looking towards Mercedes.
Besides financing, Snapon/Mac, etc. offer brand cachet and resale value that HF can't touch.
It's a bit like Kia trying to sell an $80,000 luxury sedan. They may be pretty nice, but anybody looking to spend that much on a luxury sedan is probably looking towards Mercedes.
This was my point, sorry if it was obvious...
I missed that along the line somewhere. I didn't know that it was officially announced.
I guess I don't pay enough attention to these Icon threads, I missed all these official announcements
So basically we agree, the ICON value proposition depends on their yet to come 0% financing...
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My SO driver of 35 years does his toolbox sales as truck credit. So I have 4 large SO boxes that were bought with no interest. So the drivers have some latitude when it comes to making deals. Many of them do not work like the predators some of you claim they all are.
Farmall450
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I remember looking at it with my brother year after year in black Friday at the mall. That sears is closing soon.
Lookin4'67Galaxieconv
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They are WAY nicer than the US General boxes. I'm not saying they're necessarily worth the price, but they're in another class from the US General boxes.
Cheapskate
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I won't be buying one though, the US General boxes I already have are doing just fine.