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1MtnGoat

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Hello, I'm a retired shop (high school/college) teacher. After schools stopped teaching shop I went into maintenance. Thirty plus years ago my wife and I talked it over and decided we would build a shop to "tinker" in when I retired. We decided to start saving and purchasing tools so when the shop was finished I could build and do most anything I wanted. All machinery was either purchased new on a super sale or used and completely refurbished. Just over two years ago I started the build. By coincidence it was 2 years to the day from permit pull to receiving the CO. I drew the plans, applied for permit then purchased a used backhoe to do the ground work. When we were finished the backhoe sold for cost. One of my sons said he would help me. The two of us did all the work ourselves except concrete slab pouring/finishing, setting trusses and sheathing the roof. Several times other members of the family would help for a day or two.

The shop is 40' x 76'. 2x6 framed and insulated walls and ceiling. Vinyl siding on exterior, interior walls are finished with B/C sanded plywood. Ceiling is white prefinished metal siding. Wall height is 10' with scissor trusses over the lift bay. This gave a max. of 14' ceiling height in this area. Min. is just over 12' above lift. All floors are finished with Hellfire coating.

Instead of dragging the build posts out over a couple of years I'll post a bunch of pictures all at once here.
 
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1MtnGoat

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I think I have the pictures figured out!
 

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1MtnGoat

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More pictures.
 

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1MtnGoat

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OK, question.....I like the looks and reflective properties of the white metal ceiling, but is it louder/noisier in that area due to reflected sound off the ceiling? For example, when running an impact or other air powered tools?
 
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1MtnGoat

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Floor coated using Legacy Industrial products. Hellfire and crack filler. The crack filler works fast and neat. Fill the cracks with play sand, apply solution to sand and grind flush in 30 minutes. (After mixing in the applicator bottle you have about 10 minutes to apply or it will set in the bottle. Work fast!) My floor was finished (troweled) fairly smooth about like 220 grit sand paper. I applied 4 coats in the main shop (2,000 sq.ft.) and 3 coats on the garage side (1,000 sq. ft.). With the crack filler the total price worked out to $0.65 per sq. ft.
 

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1MtnGoat

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Still more.
 

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1MtnGoat

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Here are a few pictures walking around the shop.
 

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harley jim

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Welcome Mtn goat
That is a nice shop you have. It looks like you and your wife put a lot of thought into it. I cant wait to see what you do with it.
I'm also in cleveland and retired last year and have been getting the shop set up like it should have been.

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1MtnGoat

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Here is the garage/storage side along with some before and after of the lift. Lift was purchased from a tire shop the had gone out of business. It is a 12K alignment lift with 2 - 6K rolling jacks. We sand blasted, primed and sprayed 3 coats of matching semigloss Urethane automotive paint.
 

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That is one good looking shop. I think I could be a happy camper working out of that space. Very nice layout also.
 
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1MtnGoat

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Well there it is done except for the dust collection and air lines. All said and done the building ran us less than $25 a square foot. I shopped a fair amount for materials. Lowes had the best prices on many of the supplies. The Lowes rep said if one purchased more that $1,500 at a time they can submit to corporate for special pricing. Even so you still had to watch. I had quotes from Lowes and a number of other places. Prices varied alot for the same items. I priced trusses at 4 places. They all used the same design software and specs. The prices varied by just over 3K. I did not skimp on quality. I don't plan on doing this again. We got lucky on the slab pour. One of the best guys in the area said he had a cancellation and if he could come the next day it would be $0.60 sq. ft. to pour and finish. I told him we'd be ready. Doing most all all ourselves saved a large bundle on labor costs and I could control the quality. Our building inspector said it the best constructed and nicest shop he'd seen. I'm extremely thankful to my friends and family who helped this dream come true!
 
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1MtnGoat

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I don't notice any noise problems I wish to keep my hearing for a long time so have always used ear protection a lot of the time running a saw or other noisy equipment.
 

PA Slammer

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First off, awesome build. You’ll spend years enjoying it for sure!

Vacuum and air lines... you’re planning outside the walls, right? Does anyone ever put them inside the walls? Pros/cons?

What did you use to heat the place? Maybe I missed that.

I’ve got my garage framed in and I’m starting to plan electrical. So these questions are currently on my mind. I hope to have thought out theses things the beat I can. I’m sure I’ll forget something.
 

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That shop is awesome. You should be proud of it for sure. May you come to use it in good health and happiness for a long time to come.
 
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1MtnGoat

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First off, awesome build. You’ll spend years enjoying it for sure!

Vacuum and air lines... you’re planning outside the walls, right? Does anyone ever put them inside the walls? Pros/cons?

What did you use to heat the place? Maybe I missed that.

I’ve got my garage framed in and I’m starting to plan electrical. So these questions are currently on my mind. I hope to have thought out theses things the beat I can. I’m sure I’ll forget something.

Both air lines and dust collection will be surface mounted on the walls. The office is the only place with heat and A/C. The temps are fairly mild here in TN. On a cold day the shop is 50-55* so I work a bit faster or wear a light coat. The office is insulated and inside the shell. I have a small 850 watt floor heater that maintains 68-70 with no effort.
 

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Love your plywood walls. What thickness of BC Plywood did you use? I was planning on OSB but really like the wood look. Did you varnish the plywood? Congrats on the shop! Mine should be breaking ground this month as long as old man winter is done!
 

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Both air lines and dust collection will be surface mounted on the walls. The office is the only place with heat and A/C. The temps are fairly mild here in TN. On a cold day the shop is 50-55* so I work a bit faster or wear a light coat. The office is insulated and inside the shell. I have a small 850 watt floor heater that maintains 68-70 with no effort.



Thanks! Appreciate the info. Still debating what I’ll do. I like the plywood walls! I might do reclaimed cedar fencing.
 

PhilJohn

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I can tell you knew exactly where you were going before you even broke ground. Awesome shop and enjoy!
 

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Very nice shop and we’ll planned out. Hope you get years of enjoyment out of it.

Do you have a half bath in the building?

Can you identify to the reading audience what each of the bay doors lead to?

Auto/truck, wood shop, yard maintenance?
 

Jayman17

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Very nice shop I hope you enjoy it for a long time. It will always be a reminder of how you built it mostly on your own with friends and family and that's great.
:beer:

Jay
 

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Love the look of the metal roofing panels on the ceiling. Question: how much and what kinda of insulation did you do on the ceiling. Is there any chance of the metal panels sagging over time? I plan to do this on my building with scissor type trusses at 4/12 inside pitch. Wondering if you had any install photos of the pitched roof and how you fastened them. Thanks love the build!
 

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Well there it is done except for the dust collection and air lines. All said and done the building ran us less than $25 a square foot. I shopped a fair amount for materials. Lowes had the best prices on many of the supplies. The Lowes rep said if one purchased more that $1,500 at a time they can submit to corporate for special pricing. Even so you still had to watch. I had quotes from Lowes and a number of other places. Prices varied alot for the same items. I priced trusses at 4 places. They all used the same design software and specs. The prices varied by just over 3K. I did not skimp on quality. I don't plan on doing this again. We got lucky on the slab pour. One of the best guys in the area said he had a cancellation and if he could come the next day it would be $0.60 sq. ft. to pour and finish. I told him we'd be ready. Doing most all all ourselves saved a large bundle on labor costs and I could control the quality. Our building inspector said it the best constructed and nicest shop he'd seen. I'm extremely thankful to my friends and family who helped this dream come true!

Well done on the shop. Not much you can't take care with your layout. I did have a question on the concrete. I'm assuming you paid for the concrete and set the forms and the pro's just did finishing and placement. I'm trying to find someone near me to to do the same thing. Hard to find right now...
 
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1MtnGoat

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Very nice shop and we’ll planned out. Hope you get years of enjoyment out of it.

Do you have a half bath in the building?

Can you identify to the reading audience what each of the bay doors lead to?

Auto/truck, wood shop, yard maintenance?

No 1/2 half bath. Would have been nice. I do have a hand wash sink. On the OHDs left to right. 8x8 to welding area provides extra ventilation and access for larger projects. The next 3 are 10wx9h. The first goes to the 4 post lift area. The last 24' of the South end are walled off from the rest of the shop. This is the "storage" area. Access is through two metal doors one at each end. One is a 3' and the other is 3'-6" to make it easier to roll tool chest or other larger items through. The last two on the right are to the storage area.
 
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1MtnGoat

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Love the look of the metal roofing panels on the ceiling. Question: how much and what kinda of insulation did you do on the ceiling. Is there any chance of the metal panels sagging over time? I plan to do this on my building with scissor type trusses at 4/12 inside pitch. Wondering if you had any install photos of the pitched roof and how you fastened them. Thanks love the build!

The pitched area is above the lift. All ceiling panels are run perpendicular to the trusses. A drywall lift was used to lift each panel in place. 3 people made this job easier. One to run the lift and two on scaffold to put in screws. The person running the lift on the floor "eyeballed" the screw pisition for a straight line with truss. An extension can be used with the lift to reach higher areas if necessary. The selling company provided truss head screws to fasten panels to ceiling. They are color matched to the panels and have a torx drive. A sharp center punch was used to "mark the spot" and just barely puncture the metal. This is not necessary but made life a bit easier. Fastening was 9" OC across each panel at each truss (trusses 24" OC) Screws are placed next to each large ridge. (This is standard fastening proceedure) We put a little better than 12" of blown insulation above after the metal was up. (Insulation was purchased at a box store and they provided the blower free. This saved almost 1k$) All siding/roof panels are ridged to give strength. The weight of insulation will not cause a problem. If one needed 2' of blown in it should be just fine. Be sure and use the eave baffles so your attic can breathe through the soffit and out the ridge vent.
 
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1MtnGoat

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Love your plywood walls. What thickness of BC Plywood did you use? I was planning on OSB but really like the wood look. Did you varnish the plywood? Congrats on the shop! Mine should be breaking ground this month as long as old man winter is done!

The plywood is 1/2". No finish. Did this in a previous garage, it had been in for 15 years when we sold the place. Still looked good. The plywood not only looks good but you can put in a screw where you wish and it has good holding power. I would still hang cabinets on studs. The panels were held up 3/8" - 1/2" above the floor. I planed down treated 1x4 to 9/16" and chamfered about half of the top edge at 45* for baseboards. All panels and baseboards are screwed in place to they can be removed to access wall if necessary and also screws have better holding power.
 
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