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Hey all, I decided to take advantage of the weather and build a carport on the side of the shop. I picked up some incorrectly ordered mono trusses for $120 and got to work!

THE STARTING POINT! 9ft wide and about 20ft long (retaining wall kept me from going the full 24ft.
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TRUSSES - They are 3/12 pitch, 9ft 1 5/8's. 18" overhang.
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PIER BLOCKS - I used these pre-cast pier blocks. I wasn't sure how they would work. They are 12" at the base and about 12" tall.
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POST MOUNTING - Used about 1.5 bags of Sakrete quick setup 5000PSI concrete mix per pier.
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POST UP - 3 of the 4 posts are up. They are 7 feet apart. Connected with a pressure treated 2x6
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LEDGER BOARD - It is a Doug Fir 2x6. I nailed it level with 3.5 16d nails and then added the 5" ledgerboard screws from QuikTite.
No drilling required and very strong. Patteren was 2.1.2.1.2.1.2 along the length into the studs.
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TRUSSES UP - All 12 trusses are up. 24" on center (the last one is 13" on center to the end of the ledger).
I used standard hurricane ties at all 3 mounting points. It is amazing how much difference between the trusses. 1/4" here and there. No big deal.
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TRUSSES FROM THE BACK - You can see the use of more ledger board screws on the posts.
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TRUSSES FROM THE SIDE
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OH NO. BLUE TARP! - Couldn't beat the rain. Tar paper is down, but I wanted to protect it all.
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And that is where it stands. I will take pics of how I am doing the roof to wall connection. I have already applied a liberal amount of sealant to the joint where the roof sheeting meets the wall. Tar paper 5" up the wall with some adhesive. I plan on using the 3x5 flashing with adhesive to the wall and then a 6.5" Hardie Plank board heavily caulked to the wall to keep water from infiltrating. Pulling up the siding wasn't an option. I am hoping that with the eave above it, it will be enough. Time will tell.

Now that the decking is down, the thing is solid as a rock. Those blocks worked great!

The conduit will get a 2 piece silicon boot flashing as well.

More to come when I get a clear day. 30 year Pabco architectural comp roof to go on. Same as the shop and house.
 
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Pulling up the siding wasn't an option. I am hoping that with the eave above it, it will be enough. Time will tell.

How about putting a second layer of siding over the current siding?

Then you can flash the roof to the vertical wall and cover this flashing with the second layer of siding. At the eave, just cover the "new" layer of siding with trim.
 

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That is EXACTLY what I want to do off the side of my home. We have the "original drive on that side, which is the drive for my shop now.

However, when Mrs E-tek saw the blue tarp she said: "Oh no! It can't look "Banjo-pickin' " like that!!!"
Me: "Don't worry hun, it'll match the house and shop when he's done."


Thanks for the side shots of those trusses - wouldn't be hard to make up a set of those.
 
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Hehe, banjo pickin...:)

Thanks for the kind words!

The idea of residing the upper gabled end sounds like a pretty good plan actually. It all comes down to time now. :)
 

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hell, I'd live with what you've done (in terms of sealing the connection to the garage) for awhile before going any further. Between being under the overhang and how well you've already sealed it (and the fact that what you're sealing against is intended to accept rain and weather) I think it will be fine.
 
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Yes, I think I might stick with my original plan for sealing up the wall connection.

Nonhog - Post pics when you get started!
 
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Well, I am about 95% done...

Front side with roofing, Not a great pic.
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Rear Side pic, roofed, edged and fascia up...
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Side view...
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Close up of the fascia board
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Another fascia board closeup
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I used Pabco 30 year architectural for the roof, same as the house and shop.
The fascia is a 6.5" Hardy Plank.

All that is left to do is to paint and caulk around the fascia board and paint
the end rafters and ledger board edges. I will also most likely put up some gutters. No more blue tarp! (End banjo music).

Oh, and apparently I needed something called a "permit" seeing as it is attached to the shop...dammit...

Dumping 3 yards of 1"- clean for the ground.
 
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Looking good!

Are you considering re-routing the downspout from your main garage roof so it doesn't wash out the car port area? You may not get enough rain in your area to worry about it, just curious. again, Great job!
 

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Looks real good and practical.

With that embankment, I am thinking some well routed gutters and down spouts will be needed in your area.
 
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Thanks everyone!

Reiferman - Yes, I think I will do just that. I live in WA State, so rain is a big thing...all the time.

KBS2244 - Yes, I will be adding some gutters to the roof. As far as the embankment, I will be going to town on that with a tractor. Essentially moving out the dirt and creating more gravel area, then putting up a rock wall and building up a garden area.

Autoist - Yes, but I think that it reports the usage back to Puget Sound Energy down the wire so they never come out unless there is a problem.

I did manage to get the fascia board caulked up today. :)
 

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Excellent job. Ought to last a lifetime.

I live in the NW too, just north of the Columbia River in Clark county. and I'm still hoping to finish my carport before it gets too stupid out there.

Have you ever heard of doing this without using the trusses? is there a good way to just tie the side beams and rafters to the posts? I'm not sure how I'd do this, but I'd like to know if it's possible to save on materials.

Thanks for any suggestion.
 
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Looks real good. I'd like to kick the back wall of the shop out some, this gives me cheaper ideas LOL. The way you flashed off the transition to the vertical wall should work well - I have several transitions like that on our old house which has "washboard" siding. Hard to seal up on that stuff but once sealed holds water off just fine. On your flat textured siding, should be no problem.

>Have you ever heard of doing this without using the trusses?
You could do similar with just two ledger boards on the wall. You could use hurricane ties to tie the joists to the poles, notch the poles, run a doubled plate on top of the poles and lay the joists on that, etc - lotsa ways to skin that cat.
 
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UPDATE!

I decided to pour a slab for my new carport. And I am going to enclose it and turn it into a woodshop.

I think it came out great! So far, no cracks and it is ready to build on. Very glad I did it. It is going to be great!

Here are some pics!

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All wired up and ready for pour.

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Beginning the pour. Concrete guy added the 12" stem wall to help with any drainage issues. I do plan on removing most of the dirt and leveling.

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Off we go! Guy made the mix on the "hot" side to help with setup.

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Pushing ahead!

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Rough skim. Ready to trowel.

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Hard trowel 1st pass.

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All finished!

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From the back!
 
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The pad was $800. The structure I built cost about $300. I got a screamin' deal on the trusses (10 bucks each).

The pad is 6" 5.5 sack. Rebar and wire reinforced.
 

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Looks great, I would build a Lean To Carport like that if I had the time. If not I would consider a metal carport company.

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these guys have an instant metal building price calculator so you can see how much it will cost immediately. I think a 12 wide by 21 long lean to is 690 delivered and installed. see gatorbackcarports.com
 
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Well, talk about draggin it forward from the dead. I know this is a spam post, but here are some photos of what I did to finish the woodshop. I will take a couple more of the outside and inside of the finished area.

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Beginning of the framing

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More framing

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With sheeting and Tyvek

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All sheeted up

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Building the doors

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Semi Finished door

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Cedar siding

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Electrical

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Doors from the inside
 
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Thanks! Just the 2 windows for the whole place. I do have 6 T8 lights hanging down.

The project is actually pretty much finished, but I haven't closed the gaps yet.

The interior is fully insulated, sheeted and painted with a fully insulated ceiling. I have also added another lean-to off the back to house the air compressor and dust collector. I will post pics of those as well.
 

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Nice job.. i am planning on eventually doing a carport as well.. your project gives me a good idea on how it will look because your shop and roof lines look similar to mine.

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ld have lowered the structure a couple of inches and taken advantage of where the gable end siding laps over the wall siding and slipped some flashing and counter-flashing under there. Mechanical sealing is always better than sealant. Other than that, a nice build.

Bill
 

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What is your frost depths in your area?I ask just because you did not dig real deep post holes? If you did not go beneath the frost depth you could get an issue of the building not moving and your posts heaving?
 

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Thanks! Just the 2 windows for the whole place. I do have 6 T8 lights hanging down.

The project is actually pretty much finished, but I haven't closed the gaps yet.

The interior is fully insulated, sheeted and painted with a fully insulated ceiling. I have also added another lean-to off the back to house the air compressor and dust collector. I will post pics of those as well.

keep in mind your dust collector will pull hot/cold air from the shop.
if you don't have a return air from that lean to, you will lose heat and pull in cold air (vice versa summer).

I plan on doing similar, but will "seal" & insulate the collectors portion with a furnace filter sized return air duct in the shared wall.

also, if dust collector is in with compressor in a semi sealed area, super fine dust may accumulate... and absolute worst case scenario could become an explosion/fire hazard.

I am not worried about it happening... but I will separate them when I build my lean to, just because I can, and know it's a slim possibilty.
 

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Oh, and apparently I needed something called a "permit" seeing as it is attached to the shop...dammit...

So what's the story with that? Sounds like you got caught without one. How did that happen? What issues did the inspector have with what you've done? How did things turn out? I'm particularly curious about the concrete deck supports being used to support the entire structure and not being caissons below frost line (as required where I live), as well as the thru-bolting of the header to the posts and not resting the header on top of the posts (also required here).
 

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TeamX.....was thinking the same thing. How did we skirt the inspections and the permits? I wish I could have done this.
 
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I love this and am so glad I came across Garage Journal before starting my project! I have a detached 24x24 garage I'm going to turn into my workshop (wood work, blacksmithing, and restoring a 55 Ford Mainline and 40 Ford pickup) and need space for the stuff I have in there now. Mowers, snowmobile, tillers, fertilizer spreader, garden tools etc.

I was going to build a shed which would require me expanding my chain link fence to encompass the only good location for one but now I am defintley going to do this!

I'm in MN so I need to go down 4ft do get past the frost line and also my garage has vinyl lap siding. What would be the best way to attach the lean-to ledger board to the garage with the vinyl siding being there? Is my best bet to remove all vinyl siding within the new lean to structure, put up engineered fiber panel like you have and attach to that? Can I remove just a portion of the vinyl?
 
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Hey All, sorry for not being around much.

As for the permit, I just mis-read the code. The part which talked about it being attached was in an addendum and not part of the main code. I never had it inspected but I feel confident that it solid. Still standing, waterproof, and everything!

Here in Western WA, there is no frostline in any real sense. .5" maybe but that is it. The supports are in the ground about 10 inches and sitting on about 3" of gravel and a 3" thick concrete plate. It is really in there and there has been zero movement in the last 7 years.

In regards to the thru bolt, if I had to do over, I would notch the posts. The bolts used are designed specifically for the job, so I am not worried about them giving out.

As far as lowering the height, that was not really possible so I had to go with what I had.

Ok, so as for the siding, I would remove the siding and attach the ledger board. I used a Doug Fir board, not an engineered piece. You could remove all the siding and paint the sheathing inside or some such to give it a more smooth look. I would make sure that you use a flashing underneath the OSB (or whatever the sheathing is), then reapply a length of siding over it.

As for going down 4ft, I found this product for a possible other project I was thinking of building.

http://www.heartlandpermacolumn.com/products/product-1/

The perma column is a pre-cast 5' pier which would work for your application. Might make the whole process easier.

Thanks for all the complements and comments everyone! The shop is still a big of a mess but my son and I have been using it. Still haven't installed the dust collector. :(
 
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