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Above 1200 Sq/FT The Komala Kustoms 40'x60'x14' Shop Build

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Welcome to the Komala Kustoms shop build.

I made a quick model on some free software I found based on the specs that the builder and I agreed upon. Unfortunately, they did not have the correct colors so those will be different and I'm sure other touches will be different that my builder will do but you get the idea in the pictures...

Here are some specs on the building:

40'x60'x14' Pole Building
12" Overhangs
8'x20' porch
30'x30' Driveway
3 - 4x3 windows (Color: Black)
2 - 12'x12' insulated doors (Color: Black)
1 - 3x8 man entry door
6" concrete inside
4" concrete on porch/driveway
Garage Door Openers
6'x6' compressor room
Siding: Gray
Gutters: Black
Roof: Black
Trim: Black
Wainscot: Black

A little backstory, if interested:
We just moved onto some acreage and am finally able to build the shop my father and I have always wanted but never been able to build before. 2020 came with different mountains and valleys for everyone, but God sure has had his hand on my family during these unprecedented times.

This will be used for pleasure and business. It is not my full time job but I do plan to do side work out of it, with the hopes my one day building it into a full time family business. Being a machinist and engineer by trade and a car enthusiast by blood, I am hoping to combine those things and work it into something I enjoy and can provide for my family.

Thanks for looking and I'm excited to share the journey and document the progress.

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Re: The Komala Kustoms Shop Build

I like the layout and the additional bumpout for the compressor room is slick. Looking forward to the progress.

What are your plans for HVAC?
 
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RPhil,

Right now, I don't have any definite plans for HVAC. I have ideas though. For now, I have a large multi-fuel heater i may use for the interim until i get permanent heat source. I'm considering a unit heater ran on propane or a a radiant heater running down the center of the ceiling of the shop which would also be ran on propane. I'm told that the radiant heater would be the better way to go but I dont have anything set in stone quite yet.

Pretty much the same thing for cooling. I will be putting in two 10' HVLS fans to circulate the air and then a portable 5300 cfm evaporative cooler to focus cool air on the area I would be working, as needed. I have an HVAC guy who suggested putting in a unit for the AC but that will probably be a little later after i finish the interior walls and floor and see where I am there.

Thanks for looking

Alex
 
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subscribed! Hopefully, I'm just a few weeks behind you. I'm also planning a compressor room, but I'll have to add it later.
 
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fouckhest said:
Wow, looks like its going to be a great shop!
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Thank you. I think it will fair me well...for now at least :bounce:

78SC4X4 said:
subscribed! Hopefully, I'm just a few weeks behind you. I'm also planning a compressor room, but I'll have to add it later.
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Thank you. I will be framing and sheathing the room myself after the contractor gets the building. This was an after thought so he offered to pour the concrete for free if I wanted to finish it later. It should add a nice touch and free up come room on the inside as well. Thanks for following along.
 
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More progress yesterday.

Trusses for the roof were installed and the remainder of the girts. Metal was delivered on the trailer yesterday so they are on site now installing that.

Took a bunch of pics with my nice digital camera yesterday when i got home from work and by the time i got it to my computer to upload, the memory card corrupted so I lost all the pics I took last night... :tantrum2:

But my lovely wife sent me these that she was able to take this morning when she left the house

I love seeing progress.

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Didn’t have time yesterday to post pictures after work and dinner and getting the kiddos ready for bed. Most of the siding and wainscot is on now. Just a few pieces around the porch and it should be done with the siding. Next is some trim pieces, gutters, and downspouts. Concrete will be poured on the inside next week.

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fouckhest said:
Dang, they are crushing it!!
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They are! Kind of crazy they did all that with 4 guys in 5 days. They are some hard working dudes! Great craftsmanship too.

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Very nice looking shop.

Excited to see how you set it up and the layout with tools and equipment.


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Thanks Mike. I appreciate you following along. I am looking forward to getting stuff in. It will be a slower process once they finish the concrete. I'll be doing majority of the finishing of the interior myself on nights and weekends.
 
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Trim is finished up. 6" of concrete will be poured on the inside on Thursday. Then garage doors after concrete. At that point, the building will be able to be locked. Then in the next couple weeks, weather permitting, I will be trenching and running the electric wire from the pole to the building and getting the electrical started to pass inspection.
Once I trench for the electric, the concrete for the driveway and porch will be poured.

Had some fun with my new drone and snagged some pics yesterday
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Nice looking shop, I have radiant tube heat running down the center of my 30 x 60 shop celling.
I love it and would do it again in a heart beat.
I was lucky, the natural gas line comes down my street.
 
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BORING HOP YARD said:
Nice looking shop, I have radiant tube heat running down the center of my 30 x 60 shop celling.
I love it and would do it again in a heart beat.
I was lucky, the natural gas line comes down my street.
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Thanks for checking it out. I was actually looking at the radiant tube for mine going down the center as you say yours is. Unfortunately I dont have natural gas and would have to get propane. Would you do it again if you had to get propane? Just wondering how much it would use if it would be worth the extra money vs a unit heater.
 
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Yes I would, I really like the fact that I can open the big shop door in the winter and once its closed the shop warms very fast. Everything in the shop is warming the air back up, with forced air its trying to warm everything in the shop up with air.
Many times I will be welding, fill the shop with fumes and smoke and such, then I open the doors for about a minute to purge the air, the vast majority of timed the heater wont even come on.
I worked in shops with forced air and they take forever warming the shop back up.
I like to listen to music in my shop and the radiant is quiet. I keep the shop at 50 degrees when I'm not working in it and 66 when working in it.
6 inches in the wall and 4 inches in the celling of insulation.
My heat bill is around $120 a month for about 3 - 4 months.
I looked at leasing a tank for propane and a delivery service and it was a little more expensive than natural gas.
 
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The shop looks great, I like the grey on black....following as this is the same size i had in mind for my build hopefully this summer.
 
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BORING HOP YARD said:
Yes I would, I really like the fact that I can open the big shop door in the winter and once its closed the shop warms very fast. Everything in the shop is warming the air back up, with forced air its trying to warm everything in the shop up with air.
Many times I will be welding, fill the shop with fumes and smoke and such, then I open the doors for about a minute to purge the air, the vast majority of timed the heater wont even come on.
I worked in shops with forced air and they take forever warming the shop back up.
I like to listen to music in my shop and the radiant is quiet. I keep the shop at 50 degrees when I'm not working in it and 66 when working in it.
6 inches in the wall and 4 inches in the celling of insulation.
My heat bill is around $120 a month for about 3 - 4 months.
I looked at leasing a tank for propane and a delivery service and it was a little more expensive than natural gas.
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That's awesome to hear. I appreciate the feedback especially from someone who actually has this type of heat. I think this may be the way to go for me as well. Every shop I've worked in has had forced air unit heaters as well so I know exactly what you mean. Now I just need to figure out what size tank I should buy.

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The shop looks great, I like the grey on black....following as this is the same size i had in mind for my build hopefully this summer.
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Thanks for following along. I've put way too much time and thought into everything for the barn. Mainly the interior finishing has had the most thought pout into it. I build the biggest and most appealing barn I could with the cash I had so this is what I have to work with. Hoping this will help someone like yourself with the decision they need for their shop.

Thanks again for checking in.

Alex
 
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Looks great! Basic design is very similar to mine, but a mirror image. My lean-to porch is 10'x15' on the opposite side.
You'll love the 12'x12' doors, very easy access and they are proportionate to the 14' sidewall so the building will look more residential than commercial. Very nice!
 
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TurboMustang370 said:
Looks great! Basic design is very similar to mine, but a mirror image. My lean-to porch is 10'x15' on the opposite side.
You'll love the 12'x12' doors, very easy access and they are proportionate to the 14' sidewall so the building will look more residential than commercial. Very nice!
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Thanks TurboMustang370! I'm happy with it so far. I would like to put a lean to on the other side eventually when I save up some more money for the trailer and misc covered parking/storage.
 
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komalakustoms said:
Thanks TurboMustang370! I'm happy with it so far. I would like to put a lean to on the other side eventually when I save up some more money for the trailer and misc covered parking/storage.
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Yes. The lean-to is a very nice place to “stage projects”. It keeps stuff out of the weather without taking up space in the shop.
 
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Alright - I am a few months behind on keep this up which ***** but it is what it is. Hope you guys still care to see what's going on.

At this point, the contractors are done and building is paid for. Things will be moving forward slower since I will be doing most of the work myself. I'll dump an update on items and do my best to keep up best I can - Life is busy!

Main Electric: trenched, backfilled, graded, hooked up, and turned on from the power company. I have had 2 electricians back out on me. 1 was a friend who did not want to mess with crossing my asphalt driveway and the other was a family friend who was retired union and decided he did not want to help anymore. Therefore I am stuck doing this myself as well.

Concrete: Poured and should be 100% cured at this point. Due to weird late winter weather, the concrete slab experienced some "craze cracking" and now instead of densifying and sealing it, l am going to epoxy it so the cracks are covered. It looks terrible (in my opinion). Concrete trucks did a number on my old asphalt driveway...so now it needs resurfaced.

Inspections: Completed and certificate of completion has been received. Ready to keep rocking!

More to follow...

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Looks great!

Honestly, I don't think that concrete looks bad at all, the sealer might make it look cool, but I understand if you aren't happy.
 
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fouckhest said:
Looks great!

Honestly, I don't think that concrete looks bad at all, the sealer might make it look cool, but I understand if you aren't happy.
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It's really not as terrible now that I've looked at it more and more. I could live with it and it could be "good enough" but I try not to have the good enough mentality. I have a lot invested into this so I would like it to look as good as I can afford to make it.
 
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I ended up having gravel put in the side where I eventually would like to have a lean to put in.
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Then made the decision, since they did such a stellar job on the building, just having the guys build on the compressor room which ended up being 8'x8' with a 4' service door leading to the inside of the barn. The compressor room is definitely one of my favorite things about the shop...

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komalakustoms said:
It's really not as terrible now that I've looked at it more and more. I could live with it and it could be "good enough" but I try not to have the good enough mentality. I have a lot invested into this so I would like it to look as good as I can afford to make it.
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I can certainly appreciate that, as well as relate (my concrete came out sh*tty also), so will be doing the same thing and going with an epoxy to hide all the sins.

btw - love the compressor room, I build a lean-to/shed on the side of my existing garage basement to get my compressor out of my work space(y)
 
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Alex, your building looks great, inside and out.

I've seen a concrete overlay that pours out and self-levels like epoxy, leaving a hard concrete-textured surface with no flaws. It would be expensive to cover a floor the size of yours but if you're interested, I'll look up a link.
 
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hardtop5000 said:
Alex, your building looks great, inside and out.

I've seen a concrete overlay that pours out and self-levels like epoxy, leaving a hard concrete-textured surface with no flaws. It would be expensive to cover a floor the size of yours but if you're interested, I'll look up a link.
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Hey Justin,

if you get the time, I would surely take a look and see if its something that could be an option. Thanks for the kind words!
 
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Making progress. Finally feels like I'm getting somewhere and not feeling like I need to rush as much to get stuff in since epoxy is 8 weeks out....

2 post lift is in. Need to figure out how to wire in the overhead bar servo switch and then add an cut off switch between power and the motor then it will be 100% complete. But it is wired up and works. Hoping to finish the wiring on it this weekend.

All the lights are up and in the position I wanted. Measured my FC's and I'm pretty happy with it.

Electrical boxes are nailed to the posts. Just need to finish my wiring schedule and then get to work hooking them up.

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Awesome build. I am looking into doing a 50x40.

I might have missed it, but where did you buy this kit from?
 
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bugnut said:
Alex, that is one fine looking space and however the bike looks lonely!
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Thank you! And i agree. She is lonely. Trying to minimize traffic on the bare concrete to minimize prep for the epoxy.
hardtop5000 said:
Hey Alex – this is the product I mentioned: https://leggari.com/product/concrete-repair-kit/

It could be a more textured, driveway-type finish than you want.
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Thanks for sharing! I've heard of the Leggari products before. This looks like a great product but I dont think the concrete is cracked enough needing repair. From what I have read, a grind would make the cracks go away and they arent harmful to the integrity of the concrete. Just look displeasing (to me anyways). I appreciate the looking out!
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Looking good what are your plans for the winter?
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By then the electric should be done. A with the epoxy going down in the fall, then moving into the shop, I'm hoping to get starting on restoring a 1956 Chevy 210 and painting the motorcycle. If funds permit, I would like to get a ceiling on have insulate it but I will have to see how it goes.
Also forgot that I'm building in the back 10'-12' for a clean room, storage room, office area.
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Awesome build. I am looking into doing a 50x40.

I might have missed it, but where did you buy this kit from?
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I had a local Mennonite builder put this shop up for me. It was not a purchased but I am very please with the products they used and the work they performed. The posts are made from 2x6's that are tongue and grooved together and treated partially in a tight gain wood. Overall, I couldn't be happier with how it turned out.
 
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I thought of doing one big roll-up door, centered.

I am hoping to put a 2 post lift like you did and then add my current 4 post, but do not want to over crowd it.

Does the crew you used travel? I am in Maryland and would be interested in talking with them.
 
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Z06Joe said:
I thought of doing one big roll-up door, centered.

I am hoping to put a 2 post lift like you did and then add my current 4 post, but do not want to over crowd it.

Does the crew you used travel? I am in Maryland and would be interested in talking with them.
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I am unsure if they travel or not. I can PM you the info if you would like to give him a call.

Once I wall in the back 10', 40x50 will be my shop floor space as well. I have a 4 post going up but I'm waiting on that for the time being until the epoxy is down as I wont be permanently mounting the 4 post. There should be plenty of room for both if that is your concern. I laid it out on digital graph paper in a program called paint.net just to make sure it wouldn't be too bad. I'm pretty confident it will be good.
 
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